fasting has anyone else tried this ? some new science

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  • wolfen
    wolfen Member Posts: 1,324 Member

    Best of luck Pete. I'm sure
    Best of luck Pete. I'm sure you will find a successfull plan for yourself. You have the most determination of anyone here. Like you, I believe there is a needle in the haystack for beating cancer and you can only find it by looking. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.
    CJ

    No, Pete
    You will never be a RAT. But you may be a little FISHY.LOL Just kidding. Enjoy your scuba diving, with or without food.

    Luv Ya,

    Wolfen
  • son of hal
    son of hal Member Posts: 117
    Buckwirth said:

    SOH
    That was unnecessary and divisive. Pete is here, offering his two cents and all are free to respond, especially if it is with humor and personal experience. As you say, this is Pete's thread, and it is his place to take umbrage to a response made to him. It is not ours to interpret ill intent on the behalf of others.

    Blake

    Hey Blake- You know I've
    Hey Blake- You know I've responded to you privatly but just for the record, there is a fine line between "humor" and mockery and that is how I interpreted WM's (first)reply. That's my opinion. She has no "personal experience" with fasting against cancer and her reply only seemed to "rub it in" Pete's face that she does whatever she wants and is no worse off than he is. THAT reply, to me, was unnecessary and mocking yet my response gets flagged even though I complimented her for her positive outlook. So Blake, while nothing here involved you, You also felt the need to "take umbrage" with my response to Winter when she had a perfectly good response herself. You guys sure stick together. Also Blake, as you said to me in a PM, "Pete is a big boy and can stand up for himself", well so is Marie and she did a fine job of it without you. Lastly, we all know, intent of written words is difficult to know without knowing the person who wrote them and therefore we MUST interpret them individually. Based on Winter's past criticizm of nutrition based posts her reply seemed mocking of Pete's search for weapons against cancer and like your response to me, I felt like replying to her reply.
    There, Winter explained herself, I explained myself and Pete just keeps showing us that big grinn.
    Take care all, and again, sorry Pete for the interuption.
    CJ
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member

    Best of luck Pete. I'm sure
    Best of luck Pete. I'm sure you will find a successfull plan for yourself. You have the most determination of anyone here. Like you, I believe there is a needle in the haystack for beating cancer and you can only find it by looking. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing.
    CJ

    thanks son of hal cj
    kind words, but i think we all determined to live and love our lives, me no more than anyone one of us. granted i may try a few extra bits and pieces, because i feel blessed to have had these alternatives present themselves to me in ways that tempt me. i may have been a gambler in a past life.

    yes, that lovelly NEEDLE, i hope we all find our needle and have peace, joy and love while looking. even hope, health and happiness fit in here as well.

    hugs,
    Pete
  • janderson1964
    janderson1964 Member Posts: 2,215 Member

    Hey Blake- You know I've
    Hey Blake- You know I've responded to you privatly but just for the record, there is a fine line between "humor" and mockery and that is how I interpreted WM's (first)reply. That's my opinion. She has no "personal experience" with fasting against cancer and her reply only seemed to "rub it in" Pete's face that she does whatever she wants and is no worse off than he is. THAT reply, to me, was unnecessary and mocking yet my response gets flagged even though I complimented her for her positive outlook. So Blake, while nothing here involved you, You also felt the need to "take umbrage" with my response to Winter when she had a perfectly good response herself. You guys sure stick together. Also Blake, as you said to me in a PM, "Pete is a big boy and can stand up for himself", well so is Marie and she did a fine job of it without you. Lastly, we all know, intent of written words is difficult to know without knowing the person who wrote them and therefore we MUST interpret them individually. Based on Winter's past criticizm of nutrition based posts her reply seemed mocking of Pete's search for weapons against cancer and like your response to me, I felt like replying to her reply.
    There, Winter explained herself, I explained myself and Pete just keeps showing us that big grinn.
    Take care all, and again, sorry Pete for the interuption.
    CJ

    I took Winter Maries first
    I took Winter Maries first reply as mockery as well.
  • peterz54
    peterz54 Member Posts: 341
    Additional research on fasting and cancer
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2815756/


    suggestive that keeping glucose down via fasting helps with outcome
    http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2011/11/18/annonc.mdr540.short

    more studies which suggest fasting may provide positive benifits for those on chemo
    http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=fasting+cancer&as_sdt=1,10&as_ylo=2000&as_vis=0
  • Phoebesnow
    Phoebesnow Member Posts: 600 Member
    peterz54 said:

    Additional research on fasting and cancer
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2815756/


    suggestive that keeping glucose down via fasting helps with outcome
    http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2011/11/18/annonc.mdr540.short

    more studies which suggest fasting may provide positive benifits for those on chemo
    http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=fasting+cancer&as_sdt=1,10&as_ylo=2000&as_vis=0

    Firsthand story
    I never saw the tumour, he said it was on his shoulder. He lived on Oahu, came to Malibu with his wife and child. Divorced, supported his family setting up for trade shows. He lived at the beach. He was small and very thin, a short boarder. He says he starved the tumor, called it his own personal chemo, his name was kimo. He never saw a doctor. He is the most honorable person I know. He said it just made sense. He is still going 20+ years later. I don't think he had any other choice, but even if he did, I think he would have done it the same way,
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    Buckwirth said:

    SOH
    That was unnecessary and divisive. Pete is here, offering his two cents and all are free to respond, especially if it is with humor and personal experience. As you say, this is Pete's thread, and it is his place to take umbrage to a response made to him. It is not ours to interpret ill intent on the behalf of others.

    Blake

    i hope the humour in this little reply is clear
    dear blake,

    I hope you are getting the best care you can and that your days are great.
    Maybe this will bring a small smile.

    Has my discussion on fasting ( which is the absense of all nutrition ) actually gone someway
    to demonstrating that nutrition ( diet ) has a role in surviving with our crc, and may i suggest even help some of us ultimately overcome our greatest challenge.

    I still believe in the value of diet, and still appreciate all the opinions different to mine. i have learnt the most from so many friends here.

    hugs,
    pete

    ps the differences of opinion here are our boards strongest asset, its actually the most we have to offer each other besides care and compassion.