Integrative Medicine why not ? lecture at md anderson UPDATED added video, best 60min i have seen.

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  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    #22
    lisa42 said:

    cancer cells
    Blake,

    Even my onc told me "we all have cancer cells floating in our bodies at one time or another". I don't think that idea is "out there", but is actually fairly accepted even among western medical doctors. Our bodies supposedly throughout our lives deal with rogue cancer cells (which, yes, are mutated cells) like it deals with the many viruses and bacterium that get into our body and we never know about or get sick from because the immune system took care of them. It is quite common that we may breathe in cold viruses or flu viruses and not actually get sick from them. Either we were already exposed and were already immune to them, or our immune system went to work immediately in fighting it off.
    There are certainly cancer cells that are too difficult or too aggressive for the immune system to adequately fight them off and then they go wild multiplying and we discover we have cancer. Just thought I'd comment.

    Pete- I think the video was very interesting!

    Lisa

    Lisa,
    Discuss it with Lenz the next time he sees you.
  • lisa42
    lisa42 Member Posts: 3,625 Member
    #23
    Buckwirth said:

    Lisa,
    Discuss it with Lenz the next time he sees you.

    will do
    I will, Blake- Dr. Lenz isn't my regular onc (Dr. Helton in north San Diego county is), but I do value what Dr. Lenz says, as he's the one who recommended my current chemo regimen to me and to Dr. Helton.
    I just didn't think it was an outrageous statement, as I've heard this fairly often. I also didn't think it was a reason to throw out the whole lecture/video. But, to each his/her own opinion.
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    #24
    BettyJoM said:

    Thank you
    Pete, thank you so much, I just watched this entire video.
    I just received and started reading Knockout. I have to say it upset me more than changed my life as someone had suggested. To be fair I haven't finished reading it but have to say I have not acquired any "helpful hints" to help me fight this cancer. Short of getting on a plane and going to Texas for these wonderful treatments , it left me confused.

    Unless there is a practical "to do" list near the end for me then I will consider this purchase a waste.
    your video on the other hand made me stop it to go get paper and pencil. sure its common sense but I like lists and he gave me some to follow....that I understand

    Hi BettyJoM
    I am so glad I have had one new member of the site watch the video, maybe read the lecture and if so disposed even make a few clicks and order the book. I did and am so happy with it. The books contents give me hope. Hope is something essential to fighting the cancer monkey for me.

    Just thankyou thankyou for taking the time to watch the video. not sure what knockout is. If you want helpful hints just buy anticancer, if you do I would get the second editition as its got new trials and facts not in the first.

    hugs,

    Pete

    PS I am still fishing for new members to watch the video. If I get to two I will have a party. now all my old friends who have made their minds up on this subject area are excused from watching.
  • SisterSledge
    SisterSledge Member Posts: 332 Member
    #25
    Buckwirth said:

    Thanks Phil
    Your comparison to a religion posting is dead on.

    I started to watch the video, and stopped when he said we all have cancer cells. That sounds good, but is not true. Cancer is a normal cell which has mutated at the chromosomal level (thus colon cancer, prostate cancer, brain cancer and leukemia are all cancer, but with very different cells and very different treatments).

    Were you aware that brain cancer is staged differently from CRC? Brain cancer does not metastasize to other organs, so staging becomes very subjective. Treatment is very different as well, often with a single agent, taken as a pill for an indeterminate period of time ( in some cases for years).

    Still, the faithful will believe regardless, and anything we say here is just ***** in the wind.

    BTW, I am posting from a room on the Grand Canal in Venice, a few buildings away from the former residence of Lord Byron.

    Blake

    Hi Blake
    Glad to see you here! Haven't seen you comment for awhile and wondered where you were. Now, that's the part I'm not so glad about...I'm waaaaaaaay jealous from knowing that you're visiting the country at the top of my travel wishlist >;-p

    At least come back with lots of stories and pics for us, please???

    Buon viaggio,
    Janine
  • Unknown
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    #26
    pete43lost_at_sea said:

    Hi BettyJoM
    I am so glad I have had one new member of the site watch the video, maybe read the lecture and if so disposed even make a few clicks and order the book. I did and am so happy with it. The books contents give me hope. Hope is something essential to fighting the cancer monkey for me.

    Just thankyou thankyou for taking the time to watch the video. not sure what knockout is. If you want helpful hints just buy anticancer, if you do I would get the second editition as its got new trials and facts not in the first.

    hugs,

    Pete

    PS I am still fishing for new members to watch the video. If I get to two I will have a party. now all my old friends who have made their minds up on this subject area are excused from watching.

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  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    #27
    unknown said:

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    thanks graci
    hi graci,
    i am glad you watched the video and understand his perspective. of course some treats are ok, my treats are gelato now.

    my well connected and highly regarded onc obtained the oxy on compassionate grounds for me as the extra 10-15% improvement seemed worth it in my case, even the drug company agreed.

    i wished you had been given more sensitive care during your oxy.

    hugs,
    pete
  • Unknown
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    #28
    pete43lost_at_sea said:

    thanks graci
    hi graci,
    i am glad you watched the video and understand his perspective. of course some treats are ok, my treats are gelato now.

    my well connected and highly regarded onc obtained the oxy on compassionate grounds for me as the extra 10-15% improvement seemed worth it in my case, even the drug company agreed.

    i wished you had been given more sensitive care during your oxy.

    hugs,
    pete

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  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    #29
    unknown said:

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    some want it some don't
    the fact some don't want facts still saddens me, but i accept we are all different.
    this board is great,better advice from doctors YES. better demands by patients we should all read anticancer, or bernie segals books at dx. they taught me alot.
    hugs,
    pete
  • pete43lost_at_sea
    pete43lost_at_sea Member Posts: 3,900 Member
    #30
    author died yesterday, may he rest in peace
    maybe some newer members will enjoy the lecture
    hugs,
    pete
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    #31
    pete43lost_at_sea said:

    author died yesterday, may he rest in peace
    maybe some newer members will enjoy the lecture
    hugs,
    pete

    Not yesterday...
    David Servan-Schreiber (April 21, 1961 – July 24, 2011)

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