The Reading Room: Is Sugar Toxic (The NY Times)
NYTimes: Is Sugar Toxic?
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Hatshepsut
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Hi There
One of the big topics for sure - so far an interesting read - I'm breaking it up into sections....
So nice to see you, Hatshepsut - it's hard to believe that it's been a year since Dixon's passing. I'm hoping you are doing as well as can be and that Misty is as well. Harley is growing up some but still rambunctious, he could use a good woman like Misty to settle him down, he needs manners and I'm sure she is quite the lady:)
My fight is winding down and I'll know something mid-May, maybe you will see the post and stop in - I always love to hear from you.
All the best to you!
-Craig0 -
I'm not persuaded that sugar
I'm not persuaded that sugar is toxic, but I'm not sure that it isn't, either. I stopped eating things with obtrusive sugar several years ago, myself -- better safe than sorry. By "obtrusive sugar", I mean things that taste sweet, like pie, cake, ice cream, soft drinks. I'm not careful about prepared foods that may contain some sugar, as a flavor enhancer. I find that life is still worthwhile without sweets. They are just a habit, which can be discarded. It's not that hard.
--Greg0 -
HEY Hatshepsut
I have so missed you and your posts.
You have no idea how often I think of you and always send my love from the left coast to the right or is it the right coast to the left????? I hope you feel it my friend.
11 months, WOW. It's hard to believe it's been that long but I know you still miss Dixon way too much. You had that special love that I only dream about!
Anyway thanks for the great article and I was wondering if you have had a chance to read "Anticancer", and if so what your thoughts are about it.
AND you got PGLGreg to actually admit dietary changes might help us. That in itself is HUGE!!!
Mucho love my friend,
Lisa P.0 -
Toxic may be too strong a description but,
sugar (gluclose) is the primary staple food for tumor cells - they cannot utilize the oxidative phosphorylation process that all normal cell and mitochondria can use. In addition, intake of excess amounts of sugar also raises your insulin and insulin like growth factor responses - both of which have been implicated in the development/maintenance of cancer.
On the other hand, glucose is the sole staple food for the central nervous system too, and thus the liver is constantly taking fats and protein an making them into glucose to maintain food for the brain (gluconeogenesis). So we cannot get rid of glucose all together even if you do not eat any sugar or carbohydrates (complex sugars).
So avoiding any excess sugar or avoiding sugar all together my lower the food supply some and reduce our hormonal response to it - helping in cancer surveillance and a better fighting stance. This may be why metformin has been at least linked to better outcomes in breast cancer trials as it blunts the response to sugars and reduces sugar levels all together.
I avoid all dietary sugar and use only whole grain flours/products to attempt to reach these goals - makes me feel like i am doing something...
Tom0 -
Dr Oz on sugar......
Dr Oz was told the following.
You're given the power to remove one unhealthy part of American life. What's your pick?
"Sugar. White sugar and corn syrup. They're empty calories, they become almost addictive, they contribute to obesity and therefore to a whole range of related problems (hypertension and depression to name two), they're a major cause of type-2 diabetes. We don't need sugar to live, and we don't need it as a society."0 -
Good wishes...scouty said:Dr Oz on sugar......
Dr Oz was told the following.
You're given the power to remove one unhealthy part of American life. What's your pick?
"Sugar. White sugar and corn syrup. They're empty calories, they become almost addictive, they contribute to obesity and therefore to a whole range of related problems (hypertension and depression to name two), they're a major cause of type-2 diabetes. We don't need sugar to live, and we don't need it as a society."
It is good to hear from my old friends. I think of you often. I could say that it is "sweet" to hear from you, but that, of course, would be wrong given the gist of the "Sugar is Toxic" article.
I'm glad that this article is being read and considered. Today, there was an interview with the author on NPR.
Hatshepsut0 -
As a footnote to Ms Hatshepsut's article in the Times,Hatshepsut said:Good wishes...
It is good to hear from my old friends. I think of you often. I could say that it is "sweet" to hear from you, but that, of course, would be wrong given the gist of the "Sugar is Toxic" article.
I'm glad that this article is being read and considered. Today, there was an interview with the author on NPR.
Hatshepsut
a brief item at foodconsumer.org titled:"Fructose Fuels Cancer More Than Other Sugars" , which basically concluded that "cancer cells thrive on all refined sugar", especially high fructose corn syrup.......dated 4/140 -
fructose linkcoloCan said:As a footnote to Ms Hatshepsut's article in the Times,
a brief item at foodconsumer.org titled:"Fructose Fuels Cancer More Than Other Sugars" , which basically concluded that "cancer cells thrive on all refined sugar", especially high fructose corn syrup.......dated 4/14
Very interesting. Here is the link: Fructose fuels cancer more than other sugars.
--Greg0 -
Hello there, dearheart!
Thank you for providing the link to the article!
I am living in a household with a 'borderline diabetic' now, and so very 'refined sugar' concious. I am hopeful that the studies and awareness that this article speaks of goes further. It breaks my heart that now, in my 'other' home in The Netherlands, I am starting to see fat teens and children...15 years ago, there were none. The change? Fast foods!
Great to 'see' you!
Hugs, Kathi0 -
just knock down the big yellow M with TLCKathiM said:Hello there, dearheart!
Thank you for providing the link to the article!
I am living in a household with a 'borderline diabetic' now, and so very 'refined sugar' concious. I am hopeful that the studies and awareness that this article speaks of goes further. It breaks my heart that now, in my 'other' home in The Netherlands, I am starting to see fat teens and children...15 years ago, there were none. The change? Fast foods!
Great to 'see' you!
Hugs, Kathi
i may do it here one day yet!
hugs,
pete0 -
sugar
I just saw my naturopathic dr last week & he asked me how I was doing on staying away from sugar. I admitted that the prior couple of weeks I had fallen back into sweets again (ate a whole darn chocolate rabbit myself at Easter- then I was so mad at myself afterwards- it wasn't even very good chocolate & I think "what came over me that almost made me eat it?!")
Anyhow, my naturopath looked at me and said "You need to start thinking of sugar as poison!" Pretty strong words, but it got my attention.
I am now back to avoiding it (had dinner at my mother in law's Sat & I did pass on the dish of chocolate eggs and jelly beans she had sitting out, as well as I passed on the yummy looking cake she had for dessert- man, it's hard!). But, I do know what helps & it's helping me again avoid the sugary stuff- it's taking a little aloe very juice after each meal and any time I find myself with a sugar craving. It has to be the bitter leaf aloe vera juice, not the sweetened stuff or combo with some other kind of nectar or juice aloe vera. The bitter leaf aloe vera juice is nasty tasting- kind of like pickle juice, but you get used to it after a while & it really does help. My ND also told me it helps detox candida yeasts from the mouth and digestive tract. Initially, I got it from my naturopath, but recently I got it at Henry's- a local health store & I think it's pretty easy to find, but just make sure you take the bitter kind- I don't think the other kind really is supposed to help much at all.
I'm going to continue to try to stay away from the sugar- it also is helping me finally drop a few pounds!
Lisa0 -
From American Cancer Research Institute.lisa42 said:sugar
I just saw my naturopathic dr last week & he asked me how I was doing on staying away from sugar. I admitted that the prior couple of weeks I had fallen back into sweets again (ate a whole darn chocolate rabbit myself at Easter- then I was so mad at myself afterwards- it wasn't even very good chocolate & I think "what came over me that almost made me eat it?!")
Anyhow, my naturopath looked at me and said "You need to start thinking of sugar as poison!" Pretty strong words, but it got my attention.
I am now back to avoiding it (had dinner at my mother in law's Sat & I did pass on the dish of chocolate eggs and jelly beans she had sitting out, as well as I passed on the yummy looking cake she had for dessert- man, it's hard!). But, I do know what helps & it's helping me again avoid the sugary stuff- it's taking a little aloe very juice after each meal and any time I find myself with a sugar craving. It has to be the bitter leaf aloe vera juice, not the sweetened stuff or combo with some other kind of nectar or juice aloe vera. The bitter leaf aloe vera juice is nasty tasting- kind of like pickle juice, but you get used to it after a while & it really does help. My ND also told me it helps detox candida yeasts from the mouth and digestive tract. Initially, I got it from my naturopath, but recently I got it at Henry's- a local health store & I think it's pretty easy to find, but just make sure you take the bitter kind- I don't think the other kind really is supposed to help much at all.
I'm going to continue to try to stay away from the sugar- it also is helping me finally drop a few pounds!
Lisa
The Claim: Sugar feeds cancer.
Oncology dietitians report this as one of the most common claims they hear.
The Facts: All cells (including cancer cells) in our body use sugar (glucose) from the bloodstream for fuel. But that blood sugar comes from all carbohydrate foods, including healthful vegetables, fruits, whole grains and low fat dairy sources; some glucose is even produced within our bodies from protein. While avoiding sugar completely will not slow cancer growth, eating a lot of high sugar foods may mean excess calories in your diet which leads to excess weight and body fat. And excess body fat is linked to greater risk of several types of cancers.
What to do: Focus on maintaining a healthy weight. Choose a diet high in vegetables, fruits, legumes, whole grains and low fat dairy with moderate amounts of animal protein; limit foods with a lot of added sugar and get plenty of exercise for healthy weight.
Wonder about any other claims? Send your questions to dietitian@aicr.org with the subject line "chat question" and we’ll answer as many as we can at the online chat on June 10 at 3 pm ET.
So it seems is more a question of weight than sugar by it self!.
hugs!0 -
Not the glucosepepebcn said:From American Cancer Research Institute.
The Claim: Sugar feeds cancer.
Oncology dietitians report this as one of the most common claims they hear.
The Facts: All cells (including cancer cells) in our body use sugar (glucose) from the bloodstream for fuel. But that blood sugar comes from all carbohydrate foods, including healthful vegetables, fruits, whole grains and low fat dairy sources; some glucose is even produced within our bodies from protein. While avoiding sugar completely will not slow cancer growth, eating a lot of high sugar foods may mean excess calories in your diet which leads to excess weight and body fat. And excess body fat is linked to greater risk of several types of cancers.
What to do: Focus on maintaining a healthy weight. Choose a diet high in vegetables, fruits, legumes, whole grains and low fat dairy with moderate amounts of animal protein; limit foods with a lot of added sugar and get plenty of exercise for healthy weight.
Wonder about any other claims? Send your questions to dietitian@aicr.org with the subject line "chat question" and we’ll answer as many as we can at the online chat on June 10 at 3 pm ET.
So it seems is more a question of weight than sugar by it self!.
hugs!
in the sugar that is doing the harm Pepe, it's the other molecule it has called fructose that is but it is different from the free fructose that is in fruits and veggies. You may want to read the article or my thread on Liver damage has a shorter version.
FYI, there was a study in 2008 that totally turned this whole sugar and cancer thing around in the medical world. This is really recent turns of events.
Also the amount recommended daily for Americans is 40 pounds a year which comes out to be a little the equivalent of a can and half of Coke daily. The problem is the average American consumes 90 pounds a year (and that was in the early 2000s, it is probably more now).
How's that kefir working for you?
Lisa P.0 -
I know and reading about American sugar consume,scouty said:Not the glucose
in the sugar that is doing the harm Pepe, it's the other molecule it has called fructose that is but it is different from the free fructose that is in fruits and veggies. You may want to read the article or my thread on Liver damage has a shorter version.
FYI, there was a study in 2008 that totally turned this whole sugar and cancer thing around in the medical world. This is really recent turns of events.
Also the amount recommended daily for Americans is 40 pounds a year which comes out to be a little the equivalent of a can and half of Coke daily. The problem is the average American consumes 90 pounds a year (and that was in the early 2000s, it is probably more now).
How's that kefir working for you?
Lisa P.
and your daily banana split ,hahaha! but seem that a balanced and normal consume of sugar it does not make a big difference!.
Kefir is working superb it's not a medical study ,hahaha, it's what I noticed , just one or two poo a day when before was out of control!.
Have a big hug Lisa!0 -
Are you a research specialist?PGLGreg said:I'm not persuaded that sugar
I'm not persuaded that sugar is toxic, but I'm not sure that it isn't, either. I stopped eating things with obtrusive sugar several years ago, myself -- better safe than sorry. By "obtrusive sugar", I mean things that taste sweet, like pie, cake, ice cream, soft drinks. I'm not careful about prepared foods that may contain some sugar, as a flavor enhancer. I find that life is still worthwhile without sweets. They are just a habit, which can be discarded. It's not that hard.
--Greg
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