Suzanne Somers

tootsie1
tootsie1 Member Posts: 5,044 Member
Did anybody see Dateline tonight? They had Suzanne Somers on talking about her book and her "expertise" on cancer. Right...If anybody watched, what did you think?

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  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    My real thoughts?
    Ms. Somers had stage 1 breast cancer, which has something like a 87% 10 year survival rate.  The recommended chemo changes that by one to four points (for stage 1, that number goes up with the stage).  In other words, adjuntive chemo would not have any real change on her 10 year survival rate, and the treatment she did receive is the same as my neighbor who had the same diagnosis and just follows her oncologists recommendations.

    She is either a first class fraud, or first class stupid, but her story has zero credibility and nothing to do with me.
  • herdizziness
    herdizziness Member Posts: 3,624 Member
    My thoughts?
    Yes, I watched it. What a complete BITC@ to go touting these charlatans just because she's a movie star. I was so PISSED at her, but happy about Dateline was showing her as ****.
    Crap like she gives, well, you get the idea, ticks me off.
    Winter Marie
  • KathiM
    KathiM Member Posts: 8,028 Member
    Snake oil saleman.....
    and a dangerous cheat!

    Enought said!

    Hugs, Kathi
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    Didn't Watch
    I'm still mad at her for the Thigh-master! My thighs are horrible!!!!

    Seriously, I give her close to zero credibility. She's to cancer what Jenny McCarthy is to autism. A lot of mis-information.
  • Jane822
    Jane822 Member Posts: 50
    Suzanne
    I don't give any credibility to her "expertise" in cancer treatment. She should stick with the thighmaster and leave medicine to the experts.
  • Kenny H.
    Kenny H. Member Posts: 502 Member
    Jane822 said:

    Suzanne
    I don't give any credibility to her "expertise" in cancer treatment. She should stick with the thighmaster and leave medicine to the experts.

    My same thoughts on that. Im
    My same thoughts on that. Im sticking with Chemo, not into the 3 coffee enemas a day as was suggested.
  • AnneCan
    AnneCan Member Posts: 3,673 Member
    I missed it
    Can someone tell me the gist of what she said?
  • maglets
    maglets Member Posts: 2,576 Member
    AnneCan said:

    I missed it
    Can someone tell me the gist of what she said?

    star
    I really hate to be critical of anyone but.....Ms. Somers seems to me to be a royal pain in the butt.

    She is self-satisfied, smug and pretentious to be touting her great knowledge of cancer and her extraordinary ability to overcome it.....

    sorry....just sayin :)

    mags
  • maglets said:

    star
    I really hate to be critical of anyone but.....Ms. Somers seems to me to be a royal pain in the butt.

    She is self-satisfied, smug and pretentious to be touting her great knowledge of cancer and her extraordinary ability to overcome it.....

    sorry....just sayin :)

    mags

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  • Dharma girl
    Dharma girl Member Posts: 40
    Did not see the interview

    I checked her book out at the library, I think it was called Knockout. I started reading it and found it to be, I don’t know, too flowery (?) wired (?). Anyway I only read the first chapter and was done.

    I did not see her on Dateline, but I’m sure I didn’t miss much (-;
  • thxmiker
    thxmiker Member Posts: 1,278 Member
    AnneCan said:

    I missed it
    Can someone tell me the gist of what she said?

    Here is the link:
    This is an article summarizing the interview. There is the video clip on the left hand side to click on and view the interview.

    http://www.examiner.com/nbc-in-national/dateline-nbc-to-feature-suzanne-somers-unorthodox-cancer-treatments-videos
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    unknown said:

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    False diagnosis
    1. There is no such thing as whole body cancer
    2. It was likely anaphylactic shock (an allergic reaction) combined with a reaction to the corticosteroids in her youth regimen
    3. As I understand it, she will not name the hospital or doctors in this incident, probably because her statements do not match the records

    Her original (and only) cancer was BC, stage 1, treated with a lumpectomy and radiation.
  • idlehunters
    idlehunters Member Posts: 1,787 Member
    PhillieG said:

    Didn't Watch
    I'm still mad at her for the Thigh-master! My thighs are horrible!!!!

    Seriously, I give her close to zero credibility. She's to cancer what Jenny McCarthy is to autism. A lot of mis-information.

    PHIL......
    I know you are a master at making "how to" videos..... SOOOOOOO...I think you need to make a video and show us how you used the "Thigh-master" and give US a look at those horrible thighs!!! YOU NUT!!! LOL

    Jennie
  • Jewells
    Jewells Member Posts: 17
    For Real!
    I thought cancer made people more open minded. Personally I wouldn't use any of the methods they talked about on the show, but I think it is great that other people do. I applaud Suzanne Somers for getting some of the more unconventional cancer treatment methods out there. Everyone should have all of the treatment options available to them and they should have the right to choose which treatment they want to try. True, her cancer wasn't as serious as mine, but does that make her opinion any less important than mine?
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    Jewells said:

    For Real!
    I thought cancer made people more open minded. Personally I wouldn't use any of the methods they talked about on the show, but I think it is great that other people do. I applaud Suzanne Somers for getting some of the more unconventional cancer treatment methods out there. Everyone should have all of the treatment options available to them and they should have the right to choose which treatment they want to try. True, her cancer wasn't as serious as mine, but does that make her opinion any less important than mine?

    She is on television
    And selling books. Right now her opinion is MORE important than yours and needs to be held to a higher critical standard.
  • KathiM
    KathiM Member Posts: 8,028 Member
    Jewells said:

    For Real!
    I thought cancer made people more open minded. Personally I wouldn't use any of the methods they talked about on the show, but I think it is great that other people do. I applaud Suzanne Somers for getting some of the more unconventional cancer treatment methods out there. Everyone should have all of the treatment options available to them and they should have the right to choose which treatment they want to try. True, her cancer wasn't as serious as mine, but does that make her opinion any less important than mine?

    If she was telling the whole truth about her experience....
    it would be different. But, she was quoted long ago with "I will not completely rule out chemotherapy at some point". So, changing horses, so to speak. Again, in of itself, of course people are allowed to change their mind...but the trouble is that after looking at her web site, it looks like the lady is only interested in making money...

    BTW, the 'herbs' she is talking about....did you know that many chemotherapy drugs ARE herbs? Taxol, commonly used to treat break cancer, is harvested mainly in The Netherlands from the Taxis bush...a hedge that dairy farmers know not to plant on their land...because cows will eat it and get sick...

    So, no, I don't think people here are disputing her right to a different approach to treatment, just the methods and the driving force behind it...and not telling 'the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth', so to speak!

    Dutch knuffels, Kathi
  • Lori-S
    Lori-S Member Posts: 1,277 Member
    unfortunately
    As soon as I heard her say she had "whole body cancer" (??????), she lost a lot of credibility with me. Dx'd with "whole body cancer"? And then she blamed that diagnosis on the doctors. I can't believe that any doctor would ever use that dx. My understanding is that she actually had stage 1 breast cancer that was cured with a lumpectomy.


    Though I support rational use of suppliments and other alternative treatments ... once you hear something like that it's difficult to open your mind up to what the person is saying. And since she has $$$ as her motivation that further chips away at her credibility for me. Of course all treatments require $$$ but, she's what I would call on the tour circuit. She's a ding dong in my book when it comes to cancer treatment. Can I say that?

    But, I do see benefits in bioidentical hormones when used properly for "female" and "male" hormone issues. It's too bad that she may lose credibility with that because of her "cancer story/recommended treatments".
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    Jewells said:

    For Real!
    I thought cancer made people more open minded. Personally I wouldn't use any of the methods they talked about on the show, but I think it is great that other people do. I applaud Suzanne Somers for getting some of the more unconventional cancer treatment methods out there. Everyone should have all of the treatment options available to them and they should have the right to choose which treatment they want to try. True, her cancer wasn't as serious as mine, but does that make her opinion any less important than mine?

    Jewells
    Who's hands would you put your life in? A doctor who has been studying cancer for their career or a former sitcom star/self proclaimed fitness guru/curer of cancer.
    True, everyone is entitled to their opinion and to choose which treatment they wish to follow. That's why she is on TV promoting her version of a cure. No one is stopping her.

    If I were stage I colon cancer, then had surgery, then bought a cat and after all that I was cured I could say that buying a cat cured me of cancer. I think the cat might "cure" some of the mice that are given cancer while trying to find a cure for it but I would not attribute my getting through cancer to my cat (although I love my puddy-tats)

    I would rather follow someone who has been dealing with cancer for a long time over someone who had an easier to cure form of cancer who no longer has cancer due to whatever reason.
    It certainly could have been medical intervention that did it.

    BTW: Jewells, Care to do an introduction to tell us about yourself? Usually when someone new comes on the board they tell people about their situation and what brings them here. Then again, sometimes it's like a revolving door around here too.
  • Dharma girl
    Dharma girl Member Posts: 40
    Jewells said:

    For Real!
    I thought cancer made people more open minded. Personally I wouldn't use any of the methods they talked about on the show, but I think it is great that other people do. I applaud Suzanne Somers for getting some of the more unconventional cancer treatment methods out there. Everyone should have all of the treatment options available to them and they should have the right to choose which treatment they want to try. True, her cancer wasn't as serious as mine, but does that make her opinion any less important than mine?

    Zero credibility

    I'm open to any and all cancer treatments, but as far as I’m concerned Suzanne has a HUGE credibility issue.
  • Buckwirth
    Buckwirth Member Posts: 1,258 Member
    PhillieG said:

    Jewells
    Who's hands would you put your life in? A doctor who has been studying cancer for their career or a former sitcom star/self proclaimed fitness guru/curer of cancer.
    True, everyone is entitled to their opinion and to choose which treatment they wish to follow. That's why she is on TV promoting her version of a cure. No one is stopping her.

    If I were stage I colon cancer, then had surgery, then bought a cat and after all that I was cured I could say that buying a cat cured me of cancer. I think the cat might "cure" some of the mice that are given cancer while trying to find a cure for it but I would not attribute my getting through cancer to my cat (although I love my puddy-tats)

    I would rather follow someone who has been dealing with cancer for a long time over someone who had an easier to cure form of cancer who no longer has cancer due to whatever reason.
    It certainly could have been medical intervention that did it.

    BTW: Jewells, Care to do an introduction to tell us about yourself? Usually when someone new comes on the board they tell people about their situation and what brings them here. Then again, sometimes it's like a revolving door around here too.

    One cat for stage 1
    Would it be four cats for stage IV? Or do we need to think of this exponentially, doubling the number of cats with each stage?

    Does breed matter? Is a Maine **** better than a Turkish Angora?

    These questions must be answered, lives are at stake and there should be no delays in treatment!

    :-0
    :-)

    Edit: apparently the Maine Co*n has a derogatory word in its name and CSN censored it. One laugh piled on another. ;-)