New Diagnosis

Wings57
Wings57 Member Posts: 8
edited January 2015 in Kidney Cancer #1

Hello All, I'm 57 years old and over the years I have lost many friends and family to some sort of cancer. Even though I didn't show it, deep down I've always been afraid of it. Jan 8th I went for a CT scan with contrast of my lower intestine because of pain cause by diverticulitius. They saw a mass on my right kidney and I saw my primary Doc who sent me to an Urologist. On the 15th he confirmed I have a 5cm tumor which is RCC. Because of the size and location of the tumor the whole kidney will be removed. I am scheduled for surgery on Feb 4th. Doc says there are no signs and he is pretty confident that it has not spread and is confined to the kidney. Of course he won't know for sure until the kidney is removed. Here's the thing, I'm not scared. Granted, when the Doc told me I have cancer it knocked the wind outa me for a bit but I'm not freaking out like I've always been afraid of. I'm more nervous about the surgery and living with one kidney than I am about the cancer. Has it just not hit me yet?

 

I looked at a few forums last night before joining this one and am impressed at the fact that there is not only a lot of info here but it really seems like a "family" and people care.  I've been trying to calm my wife down. She is more worried about this whole thing than I am.....so far lol.....

Comments

  • Welcome to the club.  You

    Welcome to the club.  You sound like you are calm and accept the hand you were dealt.  4 cm tumor is not bad at all.  I have one suggestion, and you may want to consider a second opinion.  The first urologist I went to said he would probably need to take my whole kidney because of the tumor location (it was a perihilar tumor).  I went for a second opinion at Memorial Sloan Kettering, and the doctor there was able to perform the surgery and preserve 95% of my affected kidney. 

    Oh, and I started out like you when I got the original diagnosis.  Days before the surgery I was a train wreck.  I feel so silly now that the whole surgery and recovery was rather easy.

  • Footstomper
    Footstomper Member Posts: 1,237 Member
    Family

    I have felt since my diagnosis and surgery back in May2013 that it was a lot harder for my spouse to deal with than me. After all, all I had to do was have the surgery and do what I was told. I think we all react in different ways to news like this and I wouldnt worry about it. I very quickly came to the coclusion that it was what it was and there was very little point in worrying abot it. I did shed a tear when first given the diagnosis but I'm not entirely sure why!

    Your tumour still sounds quite small, though I'm sure you disagree. Lets hope, as it sounds, that its been caught early enough and it can be held in check.

    So, welcome to the least attractive club in the world and good luck!

  • Jan4you
    Jan4you Member Posts: 1,330 Member

    Welcome to the club.  You

    Welcome to the club.  You sound like you are calm and accept the hand you were dealt.  4 cm tumor is not bad at all.  I have one suggestion, and you may want to consider a second opinion.  The first urologist I went to said he would probably need to take my whole kidney because of the tumor location (it was a perihilar tumor).  I went for a second opinion at Memorial Sloan Kettering, and the doctor there was able to perform the surgery and preserve 95% of my affected kidney. 

    Oh, and I started out like you when I got the original diagnosis.  Days before the surgery I was a train wreck.  I feel so silly now that the whole surgery and recovery was rather easy.

    Welcome, WINGS! Glad you

    Welcome, WINGS! Glad you found us here. I cannot thank this site enough for answering all my questions with care, making me so prepared for when I met with my Urologist/surgeon a little over a year ago.

    My tumor was 4.3 cm or so. It was found accidently too. AND I had some back pain for awhile. Most feel some pain in the lower quadrant or groin area. I didn't. And some feel no pain with this tumor. Often it gets missed.

    Also told my tumor was in a precarious position too due to it being between the renal vein and and renal artery. I opted for have the whole kidney removed. What I was not told ahead of time, is that I could no longer take ANY NSAIDS which are ibroprofin type meds ever. I took a RX NSAID daily and much needed it. Yet I had to weigh not having that med with possibility of bleeding out or spreading the cancer by trying a partial. Now THAT is MY interpretation. So it might be best to get that 2nd opinion, just to make a well informed decision.

    My surgery went well, and remained stage 1. I get my first year scan report tomorrow and suspect that I will remain NED=No evidence of disease. My recovery went very well.

    As far as your wife, I would suggest you both use your faith or religious beliefs if you do believe. Tell me, when does worrying EVER help you? It doesn't. It wastes energy and raises stress level, if you ask me. Being informed and asking lots of questions, here or wherever helps too.

    I choose and continue to choose, to be well informed, hence this web site and Smart Patients site too. I also ask questions and come to appointments with any questions and concerns. I even saw an Oncologist just to get his opinion after my surgery re: the Path report.

    Now I did use a lumbar wrap support after both my robatic, laproscopic surgeries. I had little to no pain, some swelling and discomfort around the larger incision (about 3-4 inches long) rather than take Opiates which did not agree with me and lead to constipation. Now some folks NEED meds, so I do not take that from them. I also put dry ice inside my lumbar wrap but not against the skin and that helped with the little swelling. ICE helped alot!

    What DOES hurt/pinch is the gas they pump into your abdomen whenever they do any surgeries so the surgeon can SEE better. That gas gets trapped inside for awhile, esp by the shoulder and hurts. It was my worst pain, but not unbearable as I knew what it was. WALKING helps and moving that shoulder. Gas pains lasted about 5 days or so.

    Also do not be brave when you start to feel better and push it. I could not drive for 1 week, BUT could not exercise for 30 days. After all, your insides are healing and you don't want any complications, bleeding, or hernias and such. Keep that in mind.

    Keep us informed and let your wife know that I will be thinking/praying for you both! You'll get through this time and we'll walk beside you in support!

    Warmly, Jan

     

  • icemantoo
    icemantoo Member Posts: 3,361 Member

    Family

    I have felt since my diagnosis and surgery back in May2013 that it was a lot harder for my spouse to deal with than me. After all, all I had to do was have the surgery and do what I was told. I think we all react in different ways to news like this and I wouldnt worry about it. I very quickly came to the coclusion that it was what it was and there was very little point in worrying abot it. I did shed a tear when first given the diagnosis but I'm not entirely sure why!

    Your tumour still sounds quite small, though I'm sure you disagree. Lets hope, as it sounds, that its been caught early enough and it can be held in check.

    So, welcome to the least attractive club in the world and good luck!

    Welcome

    Wings,

    Sounds like from your poat you are doing fine with all that has happened. With a small tumor the odds are clearly in your favor (95%+) that you will make a full recovery from the surgery alone.

    As you see from my other posts the surgery a'int no fun and sometimes it sure scares the hell out of spouses.

    Looking forward to you helping me with the newbies a few months down the road.

    As far as  your Kidney heath down the road i suggest a consult with a Nephrologist especially if you have any high blood pressure issues. My Surgeon and GP's focus on my bloodwork was whether or not my kidney was strong enough for IV contrast and recurrance. Those of us who have had a neph do have lower kidney function numbers than our 2 kidney brothers and sisters (see discussions on GFR) and that lower function can cause problems down the road a long time before dialysis. Those problems relate to the link between lower kidney function and heart issues.

     

    My surgeon has always said that I will die of something not related to my RCC (I am 71 and 1/2 and 12and 1/2 years post neph) and my Nephrologist advises that kidney failure is not in the cards.

     

    Icemantoo

  • jason.2835
    jason.2835 Member Posts: 337 Member
    We're All Scared

    I think, deep down, we're all scared of it.  Everyone knows someone who has been through it; in my case it was a distant fear.  Both of my grandparents on my mother's side died of cancer.  I knew I was at higher risk but I never thought I'd be dealing with it at 35... Hopefully I'm done since it was caught early.  My tumor was 2.8 cm and found while they were scanning for gallstones.  

    Your chances are very good that you won't see this again.  Once it's out, you'll feel a lot better mentally.  There were a few days initially when I was a basket case, but once the "plan" is set in motion, you kind of feel a lot better.  Even though my tumor was small, the doctor had to take the whole kidney so I'm living with one kidney myself.  Honestly, at least now, I haven't noticed much difference.  Cleaner living, eating better and keeping toxins out of your blood will allow your other kidney to naturally pick up the slack.  

    You'll be fine, man.

     

  • Footstomper
    Footstomper Member Posts: 1,237 Member

    We're All Scared

    I think, deep down, we're all scared of it.  Everyone knows someone who has been through it; in my case it was a distant fear.  Both of my grandparents on my mother's side died of cancer.  I knew I was at higher risk but I never thought I'd be dealing with it at 35... Hopefully I'm done since it was caught early.  My tumor was 2.8 cm and found while they were scanning for gallstones.  

    Your chances are very good that you won't see this again.  Once it's out, you'll feel a lot better mentally.  There were a few days initially when I was a basket case, but once the "plan" is set in motion, you kind of feel a lot better.  Even though my tumor was small, the doctor had to take the whole kidney so I'm living with one kidney myself.  Honestly, at least now, I haven't noticed much difference.  Cleaner living, eating better and keeping toxins out of your blood will allow your other kidney to naturally pick up the slack.  

    You'll be fine, man.

     

    One kidney

    I confess I havent missed the one they took out one iota. One kidney functions just as well as two as far as I can see.

  • Joe C
    Joe C Member Posts: 37
    They took out a 10.4cm along

    They took out a 10.4cm along with my left kidney in Dec 2013.  I was 35 and active.  I had lost about 30lbs before the surgery, but once they took that monster out, color immediately came back to my skin, I was breathing normal, and weight started coming back on.  I was in the gym within a month doing squats and back to it hardcore in 3 months.  It was aggressive, but I'm saying it because it's doable.  Nothing has changed, except I drink more water now.  I don't know what your diet was, but it does need to be your number one concern.  Number two is your wife (only bc if you ignore your health, your wife might kill you - if she's anything like mine :) ).  

    Consciously or subconsciously, fear is there.  Fear is just as corrosive as the cancer itself.  Keep up the chatter on these boards.  It does help.  Also, see about talking to a professional.  Having someone to talk out your fears, even the ones you might try to hide to protect your love ones - those are the fears that eat us alive.  Get them out in the open, shine light on them and they won't bother you again.  Best thing I did was air the dirty laundry with my wife; it was a KO to fear for the both of us.  But we have to revisit that practice every now and then, lest fear raise its ugly head again.

    You're going to do fine in surgery.  As others will say, we're sorry you have to put up with the hospital food. 

    Joe

  • Jojo61
    Jojo61 Member Posts: 1,309 Member
    Joe C said:

    They took out a 10.4cm along

    They took out a 10.4cm along with my left kidney in Dec 2013.  I was 35 and active.  I had lost about 30lbs before the surgery, but once they took that monster out, color immediately came back to my skin, I was breathing normal, and weight started coming back on.  I was in the gym within a month doing squats and back to it hardcore in 3 months.  It was aggressive, but I'm saying it because it's doable.  Nothing has changed, except I drink more water now.  I don't know what your diet was, but it does need to be your number one concern.  Number two is your wife (only bc if you ignore your health, your wife might kill you - if she's anything like mine :) ).  

    Consciously or subconsciously, fear is there.  Fear is just as corrosive as the cancer itself.  Keep up the chatter on these boards.  It does help.  Also, see about talking to a professional.  Having someone to talk out your fears, even the ones you might try to hide to protect your love ones - those are the fears that eat us alive.  Get them out in the open, shine light on them and they won't bother you again.  Best thing I did was air the dirty laundry with my wife; it was a KO to fear for the both of us.  But we have to revisit that practice every now and then, lest fear raise its ugly head again.

    You're going to do fine in surgery.  As others will say, we're sorry you have to put up with the hospital food. 

    Joe

    Welcome Wings

    We are here for you. It sounds like you are already in a good frame of mind- which will help you through this!

    When I first found out, I was upset but didn't cry. I found out by accident - opened the instructions for the technician and read it there. I already knew even before I had the CT....and ended up having to console the doctor when he told me. He kept saying "you're so young. you're so young". Poor guy. I found out later I was the first person that he had to tell that they had cancer. I had a 13 cm tumour removed. And the same as Joe, people told me that I looked kind of green prior to the surgery (that or it was my new lipstick colour!)

    But once the surgery is done, it is amazing how much better you feel - just to have all that behind you! Keep the communication lines open and take care. Keep us posted. Lots of great advice here, as well as good people.

    Hugs,

    Jojo

  • foroughsh
    foroughsh Member Posts: 779 Member
    So sorry you had to join, as

    So sorry you had to join, as you've written people of this forum are like a family, they were very helpful in the worst time of my life. It was my greatest fear in my life to have a cancer; finally I was diagnosed with RCC at the age of 36!!! As you know I'm too young for this type of cancer. So I had to face my greatest fear. It wasn't easy at all, this board helped me a lot, now almost 5 months post diagnosis I'm almost back on track. The surgery won't be easy but not that difficult that you think before it. Your body will learn how to live with one kidney, there are many ones who live with one kidney for a long time, the main key is to drink water, water and water, and help your kidney by eating properly. Here I'm wishing you a successful surgery and good recovery along with a stage one pathology report

    Forough

  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member
    just something else to do

    There is nothing to worry about. Your care providers know what they are doing. Trust your doctor. Ask for help as you need it. And please don't ask us about a robotic vs. open nephrectomy, and which one is better. If you do, I will take away your wideglide. You will acquire a lot of knowledge but it takes time. So jump in with full committment. Do what you are told. Concentrate on being an ideal patient. And work on your recovery the same way. This whole process is often more difficult for significant others as they feel helpless. But like most things, after a short while, it will be done and over with. Keep the shiney side up.

  • Wings57
    Wings57 Member Posts: 8
    Thanks for the welcome and

    Thanks for the welcome and well wishes. The tumor is too close to the artery for a partial the doc says. He has done many of these and I've got confidence in him. I'm having Robotic Radical Nephrectomy and I'm just counting down the days until I get this outa me. Feb 4th can't get here soon enough. lol I will do my best to stay active on this forum and offer any insight when I have it. But now I know nothing(sgt shultz)lol. Wife and I are gonna go out and have a nice weekend. She deserves it. If it wasn't for her I wouldn't have caught this when we did. She "forced" me to go see the doc because of cramping caused by diverticulitis and he sent me to the hospital for the CT scan. The rest as they say is history.....

  • Footstomper
    Footstomper Member Posts: 1,237 Member
    Wings57 said:

    Thanks for the welcome and

    Thanks for the welcome and well wishes. The tumor is too close to the artery for a partial the doc says. He has done many of these and I've got confidence in him. I'm having Robotic Radical Nephrectomy and I'm just counting down the days until I get this outa me. Feb 4th can't get here soon enough. lol I will do my best to stay active on this forum and offer any insight when I have it. But now I know nothing(sgt shultz)lol. Wife and I are gonna go out and have a nice weekend. She deserves it. If it wasn't for her I wouldn't have caught this when we did. She "forced" me to go see the doc because of cramping caused by diverticulitis and he sent me to the hospital for the CT scan. The rest as they say is history.....

    Spouses

    Treat your wife. I cant begin to say how supportive my wife has been and all the time I cant help but think it must be so hard to watch and easier to undergo the treatment. If that makes any sense.

  • icemantoo
    icemantoo Member Posts: 3,361 Member

    Spouses

    Treat your wife. I cant begin to say how supportive my wife has been and all the time I cant help but think it must be so hard to watch and easier to undergo the treatment. If that makes any sense.

    Nice weekend before surgery

    Wings57,

     

    My wife thought we should go to a nice B and B on the Canadian side of Lake Huron to relax and get my mind off the upcoming neph . They recommended this British Pub type restauant in town for dinner. The waitress brought all of the dishes out for us to look at before ordering. I could have done without the Kidney Pie

     

     

    Icemantoo

  • Footstomper
    Footstomper Member Posts: 1,237 Member
    icemantoo said:

    Nice weekend before surgery

    Wings57,

     

    My wife thought we should go to a nice B and B on the Canadian side of Lake Huron to relax and get my mind off the upcoming neph . They recommended this British Pub type restauant in town for dinner. The waitress brought all of the dishes out for us to look at before ordering. I could have done without the Kidney Pie

     

     

    Icemantoo

    Steak and Kidney Pie

    I confess I eat it with even more gusto since my nephrectomy. Devilled kidneys too.

  • Footstomper
    Footstomper Member Posts: 1,237 Member
    Wings57 said:

    Thanks for the welcome and

    Thanks for the welcome and well wishes. The tumor is too close to the artery for a partial the doc says. He has done many of these and I've got confidence in him. I'm having Robotic Radical Nephrectomy and I'm just counting down the days until I get this outa me. Feb 4th can't get here soon enough. lol I will do my best to stay active on this forum and offer any insight when I have it. But now I know nothing(sgt shultz)lol. Wife and I are gonna go out and have a nice weekend. She deserves it. If it wasn't for her I wouldn't have caught this when we did. She "forced" me to go see the doc because of cramping caused by diverticulitis and he sent me to the hospital for the CT scan. The rest as they say is history.....

    A helpful Nurse

    In the ICU said "Hows your pain on a scale of 1-10? Oh and if you say more than 5 I can give you morphine" Thats a definate 6 then.

  • Wings57
    Wings57 Member Posts: 8

    A helpful Nurse

    In the ICU said "Hows your pain on a scale of 1-10? Oh and if you say more than 5 I can give you morphine" Thats a definate 6 then.

    lol good to know.....

    lol good to know.....

  • Limelife50
    Limelife50 Member Posts: 476
    You will be fine

    Look at my pic thats me riding my Harley 3 years after having my right Kidney removed oh and i also bike ride an average of 100 miles a week but yes the crappy part of being diognosed with cancer is cancer is cancer which means you will always have to ramain vigilant with your follow up CT scans and bloodwork,oh and did i mention i also had a tumor in my remaining left Kidney Ablated oh yhea and that low grade transitional cell cancer in my bladder but life is good.