food and other essentials

cheatinlil
cheatinlil Member Posts: 197
in Kidney Cancer #1

I am reading and learning a lot.  Here are items on my list to buy this weekend for my husband that I wanted to share with other newbies.  Please if anyone can suggest quick/easy grab & go items.  I'm lacking in things he can pack for lunch.  Plus anything else yall swear by that I can get.  Most of these came from MD anderson mouth and throat soreness management and the link is

 https://www4.mdanderson.org/pe/index.cfm?pagename=opendoc&docid=620

 

Thermometer

Home blood pressure monitor (which one do you recommend?)

Toothpaste no tartar or whitening

Electric shaver (which one do you recommend?)

baking soda

SOFT TOOTHBRUSH

Popsicles

Sugar free gum

unflavored lip balm (not petroleum jelly or Vaseline®).

tuna

eggs

pudding

jello

Boost, Ensure and Carnation Breakfast Essentials

Decaffeinated coffee

Pankcakes

Cranberry juice large for home and small for work

Apple and grape juice small for work

Canned pears, peaches and fruit cocktail

Avocado/guacamole

Creamed corn or spinach

Mashed potatoes in a box and gravy

Creamed vegetable soup or casseroles

 

Comments

  • donna_lee
    donna_lee Member Posts: 1,042 Member
    #2
    A few more

    The list looks like what I rounded up when I went thru orthodontia.  White and bland food!!!  But I'm also helping with my M-i-L who has cancer. Here goes.

    Eggo waffles/syrup

    Look in the baby food section.  Interesting flavors and not so much on the preservatives.

    Yogurt. Smooth, with different fruits and flavors.

    7-Up, but let it go flat at room temp.  No bubbles, no Farts. And sometimes the cold can upset your tummy.

    Rice

    String Cheese

    Chicken broth.  Canned or make your own.

    BP monitor.  Battery arm cuff seems to give a better reading.  Even the nurses who use the wrist strap will grab their cuff if they're not sure.

    Razor- a rechargeable base unit. With probably a triple head.

    Throat Lozenges for Dry Mouth can be found in the Dental Hygiene section (at least at Walmart).  ACT Dry Mouth Lozenges (with Xylitol-artificial sweetener) work better than regular cough drops.  Also Biotene-same department-comes as a mouth rinse (helps the gums) and a spray for the tongue which you can run around the gums and mouth.

    Your Kindle Fire with some good books to pass the time. A Poly-fleece jacket for the AC rooms that play freeze out.

    And Take Care of Yourself.  That's an Order!!

    Good Luck,  Donna

  • GSRon
    GSRon Member Posts: 1,303 Member
    #3
    Ah Lil.. you may want to slow

    Ah Lil.. you may want to slow down.. that link and those foods are for people with mouth sores. Some of the drugs have mouth sores as a side effect.  One of the best things I and others have found is the "Magic Mouthwash".. but unless I am missing something, your hubby does not have mouth sores..

     

    OK on diet.. first I suggest that you look at his blood test results, which can change as time goes on.  For instance, I am high on iron so no spinach.  Some people have needs in some areas some don't, we are all different.  So use the blood test as one guide.  Also you should be able to get a consultation from a dietician, who will do all the leg work for you and make specific recommendations.  I have had three such consults in the last two plus years.. I learned a lot..!

    The basics, cut out as much processed foods as you can.  Most canned goods have all kinds of crap in them.  Watch out for High Fructose Corn Syrup, it is in way too many things we used to buy.  Organic does not mean much to me... same with things that say natural on them.. heck Hemlock is natural, but is pretty deadly.  And some items that say natural are filled with sodium / salt.  Most people get way too much salt in their diet.  We need some, but.. look at those soups.. most have 600 to over 1,000 mg of sodium in a two serving can.  The normal daily requirement is like 2,000 mg.  Sugar is the enemy as well.  Neil has a great dietary resourse, but it should be used in conjunction with the blood tests.  Too much of a good thing is too much..

    Don't go crazy.. mix up the diet.. chicken, fish, and meat is just fine..  try to find foods that are not processed with crap... and do not have red meat every day...  You already know fresh veggies are a good side dish.  If you really want soups, then homemade is always the best.. then you can control what goes in it.

    Hang in there... you are very early in all of this... you will get it..!!

    Ron

  • cheatinlil
    cheatinlil Member Posts: 197
    #4
    GSRon said:

    Ah Lil.. you may want to slow

    Ah Lil.. you may want to slow down.. that link and those foods are for people with mouth sores. Some of the drugs have mouth sores as a side effect.  One of the best things I and others have found is the "Magic Mouthwash".. but unless I am missing something, your hubby does not have mouth sores..

     

    OK on diet.. first I suggest that you look at his blood test results, which can change as time goes on.  For instance, I am high on iron so no spinach.  Some people have needs in some areas some don't, we are all different.  So use the blood test as one guide.  Also you should be able to get a consultation from a dietician, who will do all the leg work for you and make specific recommendations.  I have had three such consults in the last two plus years.. I learned a lot..!

    The basics, cut out as much processed foods as you can.  Most canned goods have all kinds of crap in them.  Watch out for High Fructose Corn Syrup, it is in way too many things we used to buy.  Organic does not mean much to me... same with things that say natural on them.. heck Hemlock is natural, but is pretty deadly.  And some items that say natural are filled with sodium / salt.  Most people get way too much salt in their diet.  We need some, but.. look at those soups.. most have 600 to over 1,000 mg of sodium in a two serving can.  The normal daily requirement is like 2,000 mg.  Sugar is the enemy as well.  Neil has a great dietary resourse, but it should be used in conjunction with the blood tests.  Too much of a good thing is too much..

    Don't go crazy.. mix up the diet.. chicken, fish, and meat is just fine..  try to find foods that are not processed with crap... and do not have red meat every day...  You already know fresh veggies are a good side dish.  If you really want soups, then homemade is always the best.. then you can control what goes in it.

    Hang in there... you are very early in all of this... you will get it..!!

    Ron

    Donna Lee,
    Thank you! I will
    Donna Lee,

    Thank you! I will add it all to my list!

     

    GSRon,

    Your right he doesn't have mouth sores.  I just have to be prepared.  I will call a dietician today!  THanks for believing in me  :)
  • Tbuck1971
    Tbuck1971 Member Posts: 50
    #5
    Sugar

    I may be misguided, but I am looking for things that are low in sugar or that easily convert to sugar and getting all sugar, where possible, out of my diet.  I have been working on fruit as really the only sugar I take in with some sugar getting by my outer defenses that are in some veggies.  In visiting the store I have avocado, peppers (red, green & yellow), salmon, steak, chicken, nothing processed (nut cheese), decaf and regular coffee (I tend to enjoy half and half).  I drink NO alcohol.  Other things I like are peppers(previously mentioned) with hummus, broccoli, tomato (prefer cherry tomato), cucumber, onions (any but especially red).  Dont know if these items help or not, but also I love eggs and lean meats.  One of my favorite custom creations is eggs with green (salad, spinach or kale) including the onions, veggies, peppers, etc.  cooked in a square.  Should we avoid cheese?  I would think a good cheese (I prefer hoop) would provide plenty of protein, good fats and boosters. For the most part my wife tells me we are on the south beach diet, I have no idea what that even means.

     

    If I am wrong about this please someone, anyone tell me what I am doing wrong and how to look at this. I agree with another comment earlier it really depends on our own individual nutrition goals. I am wrong often, about 95% of most things so I probably look dubious at best with my comment.  However having short term goals, with the ability for long term benefit I believe is the goal we all have.

     

    Hang in there!

     

    Thx again to everyone for the updates and comments!


    Take Care

     

    Tom

  • cheatinlil
    cheatinlil Member Posts: 197
    #6
    Tbuck1971 said:

    Sugar

    I may be misguided, but I am looking for things that are low in sugar or that easily convert to sugar and getting all sugar, where possible, out of my diet.  I have been working on fruit as really the only sugar I take in with some sugar getting by my outer defenses that are in some veggies.  In visiting the store I have avocado, peppers (red, green & yellow), salmon, steak, chicken, nothing processed (nut cheese), decaf and regular coffee (I tend to enjoy half and half).  I drink NO alcohol.  Other things I like are peppers(previously mentioned) with hummus, broccoli, tomato (prefer cherry tomato), cucumber, onions (any but especially red).  Dont know if these items help or not, but also I love eggs and lean meats.  One of my favorite custom creations is eggs with green (salad, spinach or kale) including the onions, veggies, peppers, etc.  cooked in a square.  Should we avoid cheese?  I would think a good cheese (I prefer hoop) would provide plenty of protein, good fats and boosters. For the most part my wife tells me we are on the south beach diet, I have no idea what that even means.

     

    If I am wrong about this please someone, anyone tell me what I am doing wrong and how to look at this. I agree with another comment earlier it really depends on our own individual nutrition goals. I am wrong often, about 95% of most things so I probably look dubious at best with my comment.  However having short term goals, with the ability for long term benefit I believe is the goal we all have.

     

    Hang in there!

     

    Thx again to everyone for the updates and comments!


    Take Care

     

    Tom

    Thanks Tom for he new

    Thanks Tom for he new additions to my grocery list.  We have always been a very processed food family.  With us both working full time and I used to be  a single Mom of 3.  Warming stuff in the microwave is the easiest way to go.  It looks like I will be learning a lot!  Plus my husband loves beef (twice a day)!  I eat beef about twice a month and was even a vegetarian for 2 years.  Me and my husband usually drink alcohol on Saturday. We will be going through a major lifestyle overhaul.  But these things are the least of our problems right now. 

    I know all about the South Beach diet.  You can thank your wife for that suggestion.  Good for you two on your lifestyle changes :)

  • GSRon
    GSRon Member Posts: 1,303 Member
    #7
    cheatinlil said:

    Donna Lee,
    Thank you! I will

    Donna Lee,

    Thank you! I will add it all to my list!

     

    GSRon,

    Your right he doesn't have mouth sores.  I just have to be prepared.  I will call a dietician today!  THanks for believing in me  :)
    Being prepared is fine.. but

    Being prepared is fine.. but it sounds like you are a bit of a run away train... please slow up.  First of all, why buy bad foods in case of something that may never happen.  Generally mouth sores come from only a couple of the treatments, which he is not on at this time.  And if it should happen all the needed items are readily available, no need to stock up on items that most likely won't ever be needed.  Some of the items you listed you do not want in the diet unless there is a reason to do so.

     

    Ron

  • Djinnie
    Djinnie Member Posts: 945 Member
    #8
    Tbuck1971 said:

    Sugar

    I may be misguided, but I am looking for things that are low in sugar or that easily convert to sugar and getting all sugar, where possible, out of my diet.  I have been working on fruit as really the only sugar I take in with some sugar getting by my outer defenses that are in some veggies.  In visiting the store I have avocado, peppers (red, green & yellow), salmon, steak, chicken, nothing processed (nut cheese), decaf and regular coffee (I tend to enjoy half and half).  I drink NO alcohol.  Other things I like are peppers(previously mentioned) with hummus, broccoli, tomato (prefer cherry tomato), cucumber, onions (any but especially red).  Dont know if these items help or not, but also I love eggs and lean meats.  One of my favorite custom creations is eggs with green (salad, spinach or kale) including the onions, veggies, peppers, etc.  cooked in a square.  Should we avoid cheese?  I would think a good cheese (I prefer hoop) would provide plenty of protein, good fats and boosters. For the most part my wife tells me we are on the south beach diet, I have no idea what that even means.

     

    If I am wrong about this please someone, anyone tell me what I am doing wrong and how to look at this. I agree with another comment earlier it really depends on our own individual nutrition goals. I am wrong often, about 95% of most things so I probably look dubious at best with my comment.  However having short term goals, with the ability for long term benefit I believe is the goal we all have.

     

    Hang in there!

     

    Thx again to everyone for the updates and comments!


    Take Care

     

    Tom

    Diet and Sugar!

    Hi Tom, 

    You are doing pretty well with your food choices, and you are right in saying we all have different nutritional needs, one diet does not fit all. My daughter is a vegetarian so I have always had a lot of veg in my diet. However I have still made some changes, i haven't used regular cooking oils for years, it is healthier to go with coconut or butter. I use a lot of cold pressed olive oil and lemon on salads. Eating some raw veg daily is good for you and steam or bake others. I drink a lot of veg juice each day and make a mixture of nuts and dried fruit to snack on. That helped a lot when I was trying to cut out biscuits(cookies). For a sweetener the natural herbal stevia is very good, it also said to help lower blood pressure. I buy a large bottle and it lasts for ages, it comes in green or brown liquid, I prefer the brown for its nuttier flavour. It is not too sweet either.

    I buy as much organic food as I can, veg and meat. I have cut out red meat and eat chicken, turkey and of course fish. A lot of the diets say to cut down on the cheese and cut out milk and butter. i like all three, they have been ingested for many years with no problem. It's the farming methods that are causing the issue. We are lucky here in than we can buy all organic, no antibiotics and the like, and the cows are grazed. The butter is still churned in the old fashioned way, and the milk is raw. It is obviously more expensive but worth it. Like you I have also cut out alcohol except on special occasions, and the more stressful moments. Although I will admit to a glass of cidre once a week, I look forward to that!

    The main thing is to cut out anything processed and whith a shelf life. You don't sound as if that has been a problem in your kitchen! All the best with everything, you sound like you are getting all your ducks in a row!

     

    Djinnie x

  • NanoSecond
    NanoSecond Member Posts: 653
    #9
    Tbuck1971 said:

    Sugar

    I may be misguided, but I am looking for things that are low in sugar or that easily convert to sugar and getting all sugar, where possible, out of my diet.  I have been working on fruit as really the only sugar I take in with some sugar getting by my outer defenses that are in some veggies.  In visiting the store I have avocado, peppers (red, green & yellow), salmon, steak, chicken, nothing processed (nut cheese), decaf and regular coffee (I tend to enjoy half and half).  I drink NO alcohol.  Other things I like are peppers(previously mentioned) with hummus, broccoli, tomato (prefer cherry tomato), cucumber, onions (any but especially red).  Dont know if these items help or not, but also I love eggs and lean meats.  One of my favorite custom creations is eggs with green (salad, spinach or kale) including the onions, veggies, peppers, etc.  cooked in a square.  Should we avoid cheese?  I would think a good cheese (I prefer hoop) would provide plenty of protein, good fats and boosters. For the most part my wife tells me we are on the south beach diet, I have no idea what that even means.

     

    If I am wrong about this please someone, anyone tell me what I am doing wrong and how to look at this. I agree with another comment earlier it really depends on our own individual nutrition goals. I am wrong often, about 95% of most things so I probably look dubious at best with my comment.  However having short term goals, with the ability for long term benefit I believe is the goal we all have.

     

    Hang in there!

     

    Thx again to everyone for the updates and comments!


    Take Care

     

    Tom

    Good dietary choices

    Tom, you have made some excellent choices.  However, one piece of mythology needs to be busted.  Don't consume lean cuts of meat.  You want that fat that comes packaged with a nice marbled cut - it helps all the nutrients (fat soluable vitamins and others important nutrients) in the meat get properly digested.  Of course, if possible, look for grass-fed (or pastured) cuts of meat.  That will reduce the amount of omega-6 poly-unsaturated fats in your diet.

    Whole fats in dairy products like cheese and yoghurt are another excellent source of energy.  I would avoid drinking milk (too much lactose) but with fermented dairy products that is not a problem.

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