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Ginger Girl
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I've had it with chemo! A little over a month ago I decided to stop taking chemo treatments. It was way too much for me. My husband and I researched and researched for alternative methods and found tons of info on it. We found a documentary about the Rick Simpson story called "Run From The Cure". We decided to try this but didn't know anyone who is a care giver in our small town. We had gone to a birthday party for my little niece at my brothers house and started talking about what we want to do. A couple that we didn't know was there and heard us talking. They are care givers for medical marijuana and I became a patient of theirs. I took meeting these people as a sign from God to try this method!! Being off chemo and on cannabis now for about 4 weeks, I have been feeling better and better. If you watch the video...(I will post the link)...you will see how they make the oil. Actually my caregiver thought that I would do better on raw cannabis rather than oil because I really don't want any kind of a "high". The raw cannabis does not get me high at all. I can work all day a feel great. I take the oil at night to help me sleep. I've always had that problem. I am so happy to feel good for a change. I know cannabis has a big stigma on it....but please keep an open mind and research for yourself. You can contact me any time and I would love to discuss this with you. There are thousands of cancer patients that have been cured of cancer with cannabis!! No side effects!! Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0psJhQHk_GI. Take care girls and God bless!

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dianehelen
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So is the cannabis supposed to be a cure, or just an aid to help you feel better. I do not live in a medical marijuana state sadly, but have no problem using it if needed. I already informed my MO of this when the hell of chemo begins. I will also seek a 2nd opinion regarding how necessary chemo is.

Did you quit because how bad the effects of chemo were?

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It is oil that you are getting the benefits from not the thc so you are not suppose to get high from it... I was really curious also about this. Interesting as my niece sent me a link that one of her clients gave her. Another thing to research!

Ginger Girl
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Hi Camul! When you heat cannabis you get high..smoking, vaporizing, or baking cookies or brownies. When you eat it raw like I do..it doesn't make you high. I grind up the dried bud and add a little olive oil to it and stuff it into gel capsules. I take a capsule every 3 or 4 hours all day long. I take the oil at night..it's totally wonderful for sleeping!!! Chemo was so bad for me..I could not do anything. I was sick all the time. I had headaches and my hand went numb. I did about 6 rounds of chemo and that was all I could take. I think I would rather die than do that again! Anyway I am so grateful for my wonderful husband that did hours of research for me and found this great alternative. I will have a CT Scan in a couple of months to see how everything is going. It works on all cancers and on all different stages. Some cancer patients have had the doctors telling them there is no hope for them and just go home and die. These are the people that have nothing left to lose so they go for it and many, many of them are completely cured. It's amazing!! I keep reading more and more testimonies everyday! I thank God everyday that I feel so good!! I am always happy to answer any questions you might have on this subject. Take care Camul.

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I don't know how many treatments you had scheduled. I have done chemo, and I do not believe I would be here without it. I had been on weekly chemo for almost 2 years and it worked. It slowed down the progression. Nothing has put me in remission and now my immune system is so compromised, according to my mo, that he is afraid that one of the infections and/or reactions will get me.

I am curious what chemo you were on and what your oncologists reaction to stopping chemo and doing this treatment were.

Best to you,

Ginger Girl
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Ginger Girl
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Hi Dianehelen! Cannabis is a cure if you do or don't take chemo. It works faster on patients that don't do chemo, but it will work if you do take it. I am now just getting over the effects of the chemo. I feel better and better each passing day! I'm so grateful!! Now I can take the raw cannabis just for the sole purpose of curing my cancer! Please read the reply below I wrote to Camul. It explains the way I'm doing it. And like I wrote to Camul I am always happy to answer any questions you have. Let's all just get better and get on with our lives!! I never smoked marijuana...this is all so new to me too. I want to shout it to the world. It also cures or relieves symptoms of many other diseases. I am learning so much about this wonderful God given plant! Take care Dianehelen!

kacee999
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What stage you are or what's currently going on with you. I was under the assumption that cannabis was being used strictly to stave off nausea for cancer patients. I didn't think it had any curative powers.

Ginger Girl
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Hi Kacee! I was diagnosed with stage 2b HER positive. I would have to find my pathology report to tell you more...I actually don't remember everything. I am at work and it's at home. To answer your question...you can smoke marijuana to alleviate the side effects of chemo and nausea. That has helped many patients. But it does so much more! They are only beginning to research this wonderful medicine. The drug companies, some doctors and hospital don't want you to know about this as they can't patient it because it's a natural plant. If people started to use it for a cure they won't make the billions of dollars the cancer industry makes. My care giver used it to cure his lung cancer a couple of years ago and now just takes a maintenance dose every day. Feel free to ask me anything. Do as much research on this and you will find what a wonderful plant this is. I am so amazed!! Take care Kacee!

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SIROD
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You are at a stage with a pathology that you should really reconsider going back to your treatment. 70% of women who do standard treatment do never recur. You don't ever want to be stage IV. Before they found the oncogene for HER2NEU women died quickly from this aggressive cancer. Herceptin has been a blessing to many women, keeping them alive or extending their life. I guarantee that MJ will not do that, I really urge you to go back and talk with your oncologist.

This drug works in Mice and having been diagnose in 1994 and online since 1997, I will tell you that what works in Mice doesn't mean it ever will ever work in people. I have seen a lot of hoopla that has come out with this sort of thing with the keyword being "works in Mice in labs". So many of them were never heard again in the media.

They don't have any cure for cancer. A few like testicular, they do have some idea what might work on it and that is why Lance Armstrong did so well with his. Some childhood leukemias are curable. Breast cancer is the oldest recorded disease in history. Somewhere along the way, I am willing to bet women have used it but if it worked the way it is showing in these mice, the information would have trickled down.

Don't be taken in by Media spin of something that might never be tested in people. When it is offered in clinical trial, Phase II better in Phase III then it's time to reconsider standard treatment. I wouldn't take the words of a MJ seller that it cured anyone. I am a doubting Thomas. Did you speak to the person cured of lung cancer? Did you see his reports, pathology, scans and etc.? What proof do you have that this person isn't what once was called a snake oil salesperson? What is the background of the person selling you MJ? A medical person, scientist or just some one who believes that MJ should be promoted? Do they have a license to sell MJ? In my state MJ is approved for medical reasons and the person who decides if there is a valid medical reason is a doctor.

Please reconsider, at least talking with your oncologist about what you are doing.

Doris

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dianehelen
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WOW!! The more I start looking this up, the more info I see. Hmm really makes ya think.

Here are some other really interesting video links

Cancer Cure - Cannabis & Cannabinoids,by Robert Melamede,PhD

Marijuana Heals Cancer ...Cannabinoid Receptors In The Human Body

Sure seems worth some additional research and study and understanding

Ginger Girl
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I think I have read every article and looked at every video on this subject! There is so much to learn. I read tons of testimonials and so many people have been cured of all kinds of diseases from this wonderful plant! I just want so much to get the word out so cancer patients don't have to go what I went through!! What a wonderful world this would be if cancer was a thing of the past.

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Really??? Cannabis cures cancer? I have heard all of this kind of hurtful BS over the years and it still makes me see red.

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SIROD
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Keyword was Mice and the article I read stated the following:

Dr Weissman said that when used on small tumours, the drug is ‘potentially curative’ – but stressed that for some of the mice it did not work at all.

The article I read was a tabloid out of the uk.

On another forum this woman selling her diet book that will cure cancer, came out of the same newspaper. I hope Ginger Girl reconsiders going back to treatment. I hate to have any other people join the mets club, I would turn in my membership in a blink of the eye.

Best,

Doris

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TexasCharlie
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I would not do the raw cannabis,I read there are small hairs on it that can damage internal organs if taken over a long period. I would do the oils. The oils contain the important cannabinols anyway. I had read of the raw cannabis hair problem back when I was a user and wanted to try eating it.

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TexasCharlie
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As an aside Stanford did the research on using cannabis to cure and it's for real. It actually shrinks tumors. It's online if you want to look it up.

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I did look it up and I could find no large control studies on this whatsoever. There is a small study at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute that is being conducted on mice and is light years away from being able to make the leap that cannabis cures cancer.

I have worked very hard for the past 25 years to stay alive and I am still fighting. Hearing that anything cures cancer infuriates and insults my struggles. Over the years we have heard it all: green tea, cannabis and don't forget the kudzu. Sorry, but I don't buy it at all.

"They've been doing studies on mice and showing the effect in tumors. All that is wonderful, but what you don't know is whether it will make people go pea green or colorblind," said Dr. William Goodson, a breast cancer specialist at California Pacific Medical Center who is familiar with the researchers' work.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Pot-compound-seen-as-tool-against-cancer-3875562.php#ixzz2DZHxNprf

P.S. I could not find anything involved with Stanford, so please send me that link.

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SIROD
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For Texas Charlie:

Research on mice doesn't mean it is ready to be used on people. It might shrink tumors in mice but it is a long, long way before it is ready to be a possibility for people.

When labs do studies and something works, it doesn't mean you give up regular treatment and think this is it. It can be years and most of the time, it doesn't go any where.

"The antibody has so far been tested only on mice, but researchers hope to give it to people within two years."

Tested on Mice is the "Keyword". Everything needs approval and it goes into steps by the FDA. I never get excited until it is in phase III trials.

Doris

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I don't know who is flagging all these posts. People do have a right to express an opinion even if you don't share the views of the posters.

You don't have a right to flag unless it is something vulgar, offensive, as in racist and etc. Don't be so small minded and allow people to express their opinions. There are no right or wrong opinions.

Doris

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dianehelen
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Wow i did not even notice the flagging but i totally agree with you. We are all here to share experiences and info.

What happens to a flagged post? Does it get removed just because anyone can flag it?

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SIROD
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It is flagged in order that the administrator for csn discussion boards reviews the posts. If they find it doesn't go with their policies, then it is removed.

Someone here enjoys censoring other people's opinions.

Best,

Doris

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I think that we do have a right to flag "There are thousands of cancer patients that have been cured of cancer with cannabis!! No side effects!!". That is pushing quackery--not expressing an opinion.

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In my state, MJ is legal for medical purposes, such as nausea from chemotherapy. A medical doctor must approved of the reason that it is needed. Certain people are picked as growers and distributors, they are state approved and license.

Ginger Girls providers I question if they are licensed and their background in the medical field to give out information of the sort that they gave her. I don't believe the people who are growers & distributors of the plant are approved to give medical advice.

I don't believe for one second that this is a legitimate and Ginger Girl is risking a lot by allowing her cancer to progress. What she gave is an opinion on what tabloids are stating, newspapers of that kind always give out erroneous information and often state their are moon people walking around Mars or stuff of that nature.

This is a lab who clearly state the evidence is in mice and it doesn't work in all these little creatures. A lab experiment is not something one uses as a basis for alternative medication. I would think that this would be understood by anyone reading a sensationalized cure. There is no cures at the moment for breast cancer.

I have been flagged so many times and really questioned where I had been wrong in my opinions. People who believe that others don't have the same right to an opinion as they do is censorship. I certainly don't approve or believe a word of MJ curing cancer at this date but I wouldn't flag someone because they do. They might believe that there are humans on Pluto and that is their right to believe if they want too.

Best,

Doris

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TexasCharlie
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Cynthia, I did use the wrong term when I said cure. The study that I read about said it shrank tumors in lab rats and it didn't give any details as to how the infusion was done. Here's my final opinion on it. I am on chemo and it IS working, very well. The side effects are awful at times but, it's only temporary. I was an addict bfor 23 years and pot was an every day thing. For me, pot would be a last resort to ease the discomfort and pain of this disease. I personally wouldn't be eating raw cannabis especially knowing what the raw stuff can do to your liver and kidneys.

Here's a couple of articles on treating with cannabis. In the first one their research mentions CBD as the ingredient that fights the cancer. That ingredient probably is in too small amounts in the kind of pot that is grown for smoking to be of any use. So, her self treatment is probably taking her down the wrong road.

http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Pot-compound-seen-as-tool-against-cancer-3875562.php

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/cancer/articles/2009/04/01/active-ingredient-in-marijuana-kills-brain-cancer

Ginger Girl
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Hi Charlie. I have been researching what you said about the small hairs damaging the internal organs. I haven't found anything about that. Could you post a link or two where you found this info? I really would like to read about it. I don't do anything until I research it. Thanks Charlie!

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salls41
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I don't like what you're peddling... God made grapes too.. my sign to drink wine to cure my cancer? For pete's sake.. stop driving home false cures.. I have no problem with med marijuana as an aid to help ease side effects of chemo but if it were a cure, we would know it long before you came along!

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Doris, I never have a problem with others expressing opinions, but this post went way beyond that in making false claims and misleading others. And, for those of us who struggle with our therapies every single day, it is beyond insulting.

I would like to believe this is a legitimate survivor, but her claims make me wonder if she has ties with the cannabis industry? I saw red flags all over that post. If she is legit, then I feel terribly sorry for her, because, in my training, I saw many folks in the hospital in the final stages of cancer. And without her chemo...well, I think that is so unwise. My hospital experience has kept me compliant and kept me alive for 25 years--not cured but still working and fighting.

P.S. BTW, I do not have an issue with cannabis for the side effects. I even tried it 25 years ago in desperation. Unfortunately, it did nothing for my nausea and vomiting. I worked out a prescription drug regimen with my chemo nurse that did work well and I was then able to keep working. But if it helps your nausea or improves your appetite, I have no issue with it.

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... with CypressCynthia.

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CC,

I believe you are correct where it's heading. I was hoping that it was some misguided person.

Best,

Doris

kacee999
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Where are these survivors?
Where are their path reports?
It always seems to be "someone else" who was cured...that other guy. Why is he not sitting in Mayo Clinic right now being studied as the only person in the world who was magically "cured" at Stage IV.

joeybirdie
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I'm new here and have been reading many posts. I haven't posted much but love reading all the info here! Ginger, I know many people that have been cured of cancer from cannabis. I know caregivers in my community and many testimonials. I am on chemo, but take the "oil" to help with the symptoms and believe me IT HELPS TREMENDOUSLY!! I don't know what I would do without it. There is such a stigma with marijuana and that needs to change. The only reason there wasn't clinical studies on it is because it is a schedule 1 drug. The government won't let them. Now that more and more states are changing their laws there will be many human studies. The big pharma and doctors won't like it, but this is not going away. Can I contact you privately to discuss more? Apparently it makes some people angry just to read about it! How silly! By the way here in Michigan we have a Medical Marijuana law so I am not breaking any laws. I just want my medicine so I can live as normal life as I can having cancer and being on chemo!! Please ladies don't knock it if you know nothing about it. If it helps anyone even just a small bit what's it to you? Thanks again Ginger for being brave and posting what you feel here!! Take care Ginger!

Ginger Girl
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Thank you Joeybirdie for your words of encouragement! And thanks from the bottom of my heart for the time you spent last night chatting with me about this! I am eternally grateful for your precious time you spent with me. Tell your husband thanks for his input too! You two were so helpful in answering my list of questions! LOL I now understand so much more then I did yesterday about the wonderful plant Marijuana! Wow! They are making such remarkable progress researching this and getting the word out about the healing aspects of this great plant. I know this is not going away...if anything it will grow and many people will rely on this plant for many medical symptoms. I'm praying people will get hold of this and spread the word. There are some Facebook pages dedicated to information and testimonials from cancer patients that have been cured or their symptoms alleviated from smoking or using the oil or like me the raw cannabis. I wouldn't trade it for a million dollars! God Bless Joey and I will look forward to chatting again with you! Bye for now, Ginger

joeybirdie
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I noticed some of the posts were flagged? HUH? There is nothing wrong with medicial marijuana girls! It's 2012! It's almost 2013! Grow up! Many, many chemo patients think of MMJ as a Godsend and I am one of them. I don't know what I would do without it. I actually can go to work for a whole day and feel good. I can sleep at night without waking up once! I used to be up many times at night because I didn't feel good. My sweet hubby loves that! Really ladies, think of others before you condemn something you know nothing about. Any one of us could die at any time so why is it so terrible that someone gets relief from a plant. It's just a plant and it's my valuable medicine. Sorry for the venting, but let's just give each other some words of encouragement instead of bashing the very thing that let's us have a normal life again.

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salls41
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with marijuana -medicinal or pleasure use! I have issue of the claim that it CURES cancer.. please stop giving the false statements.. there are some very fragile people here and your offering false hope! If marijuana works for the side effects of chemo, I am happy for anyone who can get that relief by smoking a joint... using the oil... baking a pan of brownies.. whatever the choice may be. I am extremely pleased you are being flagged for not only your claims of a cure but for your attitude in your post.

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Medical MJ maybe, but this isn't about the nausea business. Your talking about being cured from pot when there is just a small possibility with mice. If it works, it is years away.

Your testimonials are as fake as those of Dr. Burzynski and all those diet books that have cures. If people where cured, it would be on the front page of every newspapers, it would be Tweeted, all over Facebook, and every network would be talking and interviewing about "the cure".

There isn't any of this because there isn't any cure. If you believe what you wrote, you wouldn't be doing chemotherapy. I don't believe Gingergirl is now a real person, perhaps you and she are one and the same promoting false hope .

Doris

joeybirdie
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Hi Doris. I do know many people that have been cured of cancer with MMJ. Not smoking it but taking the oil or eating it raw. Smoking never cured anyone, only helped the symptoms of chemo. The only reason I am taking chemo is because my husband felt it would be better if I did. I agreed, but I said that if it was too much for me I would quit. It was pretty bad for awhile until I started to take the oil. Now it's tolerable. Ginger said she would go back on it if her CT Scan shows no improvement with cannabis. Where have you been for the last couple of years? I have seen many news programs discussing MMJ for curing cancer. I've read numerous articles in newspapers on this very subject. Facebook has many pages about RSO and raw cannabis. And twitter too. Just because you never heard of it, don't assume there isn't anything to it. I don't care if most people won't try it, but at least let the word get out so someone could get some relief from chemo or actually be cured of it. The reason some folks don't shout it from the mountain is because in their state there is no MMJ laws. They are doing it illegally and are afraid to talk about it. Fortunately here in Michigan we past the MMJ law back in 2008. I'm very grateful for this but even if it weren't legal I would use it. But I would not be on here talking about it in fear of arrest. If one patient on this site finds MMJ useful for any reason I will be happy. Here's to everyone finding their own comfort! Joey

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Unconscionable snake oil peddler-go away!

Ginger Girl
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Thank you Cynthia, I needed that right now!

NORTH CRUSADER
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CC,

I understand your scepticism. I have been involved in the public health field for over 30 years and I did not believe this either --- until I did the research.

You can call cannabis oil "snake oil", but I can assure you that GingerGirl has a very good chance of success. Got to FB and see what Corrie Yelland has to say about it ... or Dennis Hill on You Tube ... not only did he cure himself of stage IV prostate cancer (used oil only), he has a PhD in biochemistry and WAS a cancer researcher ... or Dave Triplett.

I encourage you and others to be sceptical, but I also encourage you to do the research as well ... you are going to be VERY surprised. Pull up the Huffington Post a few days ago and see the story of the 8-month old with an inoperable brain tumor -- parents used, with their doctors approval -- cannabis oil ONLY. Within 4 months the tumor was GONE! No other treatment. Rick Simpson, the man who started this, has cured 1000s and he was no snake oil SALESMAN because he GAVE IT AWAY FOR FREE! In fact, it cost him thousands of $ out of his own pocket, not to mention years of stress, time in court, kicked out of his own country (finally allowed back in) ... years of derision ... few men could have withstood what he endured to get the word out ... the man should be sainted!

I will add one last thing -- if cannabis is snake oil, WHY DOES THE US GOVERNMENT HOLD A PATENT FOR CANNABIS MEDICATIONS (US Patent 6630507). They have known for years about the anti-cancer properties of cannabis. Why do companies like GW Pharmaceuticals and Cannabis Science INC exist? PLEASE -- I understand your feelings. BUT please keep and open mind. There is very good evidence that this works. You are not going to find double-blinded, case controlled studies for this, and there is good reason ... but I'll leave that to you, to figure out why!

Ginger Girl
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Thanks you North Crusader!

Margeaux
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I have been on this board since Aug. 2010 (changed my username) and I never have seen this many responses flagged as offensive. What is going on? I will probably get flagged too, well, there is a first time for everything. Unfortunately I live in backwards Texas and no hope to get Cannabis in any form, smoke, rubs, oils, none! Husband notwithstanding, this old lady of 79 would smoke up a storm, or whatever. I do have side effects from damaged nerves due to lymph node removal, heaven to just check out for a while! That said - I now need to take a very, very deep breath..... So, now some form of MJ is going to "cure" cancer? Really? Another wonderful cure suppressed by avaricious medical profession/pharmaceutical industry and Government to keep the billions flowing? Naturally, being off chemo makes one feel better, for a short time at least. In the meantime those cancer cells are recuperating and will happily go about their business multiplying. The sad thing is, some will buy into this, and a perfectly curable cancer will end up terminal. Chemo/surgery/radiation is one tough road to walk on, but walk on we did and are alive as a consequence of it. We are not stupid mindless followers but brave, courageous men and women. Please be so kind and give us details on the thousands that have been "cured" by cannabis, type, grade, stage, 5 year survival rates, scientific data from reputable sources, I'd like to read it.
Margeaux

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Wow what a thread. Finally after 15 years of survival this site is actually talking about things that are part of reality though I have to wonder myself where is all the cure in chemo radiation and surgery. Do we just forget that we are at greater risk of getting breast cancer again along with higher risks for getting other cancers. This sort of rains on the CURE parade I think.

Don't get me wrong I consider myself and many others here miracles just for still being here when the cards were stacked against us. I learned after being ill for a very long time before my cancer diagnosis that there truly shouldn't be any reason why anyone should have to suffer in this day and age. All treatments including surgery almost killed me with infections and poor health but being stage 3 and very ill might not have helped.

I am here to say that pharmacuticals often come with side effects that are just as bad as some of the effects felt from treatments. Some of us are very sensative to everything done to us and I began with one disease Breast Cancer and have had to learn to live with many diseases these past 15 years so sorry if I am not on the CURE Train.

Quality for my life is another story though. We have had access to THC sprays and pills in Canada for years but science has a tendancy to change what was actually good so it has taken years to get anything useful for a patient. They now know that the entire component of the plant is needed so POT isn't bad after all. I always said that was man's first mistake getting rid of HEMP because man sure found allot of ways to distroy a very good thing. The war hasn't worked and time for a change and I am feeling it in the wind here. Thank you
Tara

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I'm no detective but I know a scam when I see one. Find some other site to spread your scam. These ladies and gentlemen are more deserving of respect. If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat it is most likely a rat....................

BTW I have no problem with medical cannibus for any reason.

Terry

kacee999
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names, specifics, dates, path reports...put your money where your mouth is. Not the old "a friend of my co-worker's sister..." line. That's as old as the hills. I always like how it seems to exponentially grow...."I know "MANY" people who have been CURED." Give me one...give me two. give me PROOF. We on this board are always open to new ideas and the medical community is discovering new advances HOURLY. But do NOT utter the word CURE when that for all practical purposes is blasphemous to those souls who are fighting tooth and nail for their very existence. Give us something solid and we will be the first to band together and call the American Cancer Society and give them the proof to review, if these purported cured individuals are too "scared" to come forward because of anti-MJ laws (I'm sorry, I have to LAUGH at that). If there is a cure out there, it should be known about. But.....

NORTH CRUSADER
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Please see my reply to CypressCynthia ... YOU NEED TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!

That's all we can do -- the rest is up to you.

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Testimonials are not scientifically based. I often see testimonials when someone is trying to SELL something. One of the reasons testemonials do not reach the level of Proof needed for science is this. The supposed "cured" person may have a different body chemistry than mine. So even if said "cured" person was truly cured it would not neccessariy work for Janet, Jane, and Julie on this board. I am not saying that it has no effects that might "assist" the process we already know is our best hope for a "Remission" of our disease. However the word "Cure" can only be used when tens of thousands of people have had the same results. I doubt you have these numbers. So please stop using the word cure.

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I just thought I could post about something that I do to treat my breast cancer and maybe I would find a couple of nice ladies to talk to that have heard of this or is doing this or knows of someone doing what I do. I never thought I would get such nasty remarks. I feel bad already having cancer and just thought we all could learn together about anything different that possibly could help us. I love reading tons of post on here and am learning so much. I thought when I first came here that maybe there was a "alternative" feed on this forum. But I didn't find one. If there was one then the ladies that wanted to talk about different types of treatments then they could. I have nothing at all to gain from posting my statement. I am just a MMJ patient...not a grower or a caregiver. I don't sell anything! So how can I be a "snake oil peddler"? I really don't have too many people I can talk to about my cancer. I live a very small town and have only been here three years. I'm so glad I found one friend on here. She is very nice and helpful and we are going to keep communicating. So I am happy for that. I will not be posting on here anymore as not to make anyone upset. But I will still love to read as many posts as I can so I can learn more about this horrific disease. God Bless all of you and hope everything works out for each and every one of you. Ginger

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dianehelen
Posts: 131
Joined: Nov 2012

For what its worth Ginger, Im sorry you had to face such negativity for simply sharing your thoughts. I for one found your information very interesting and eye opening. I am perfectly able to make my own decisions based on my situation and needs, so I dont believe just because someone posts something, it can make others change a course.

I also believe there is a very unknown wealth of medicine hidden in plants of all kinds, and it is a very untapped source for many reasons.

I am just starting the beginning of this hell, and will most likely have to endure chemo, but I will be also looking into how to either create or obtain this oil to at least help the process.

Im sorry you had to face some that felt malice to your thoughts, but wish you well in your journey, and would love if you could update me on your progress and any new research or information you may come across.

Be Well
Diane

Ginger Girl
Posts: 19
Joined: Oct 2012

Thank you so much Diane! I feel better already! I will keep you updated about anything new I come across...(always researching). I was going to explain on this feed why I don't do chemo anymore. Back when I was twenty I had my first baby and had a "saddle block". It made me so sick. My doctor gave me something to help and it even made me even sicker. A few times in my twenties I got other prescriptions for ailments...and my husband would have to take me into the emergency room because I would be so sick from the pills. I knew early in life that I cannot take many drugs. It actually changed my life for the better because we would always had to find natural remedies. Most things that I take are all natural. My next three babies I had were born with no drugs what so ever. I felt like a million bucks after the births. I loved that! When I was diagnosed with cancer I was afraid that the chemo would be very bad for me...which it was. Very bad! So that is why me and my husband began searching for a natural treatment...I won't say cure...it angers people. I don't write very well and didn't know what else to call it. Sorry girls! We found out about cannabis and decided that's what I wanted to do. God intervened and brought a very nice couple into my life. I am so grateful! They don't live real close to us, but I don't mind making the 100 mile trip now and then to get my "meds". I'm doing very well with what I am taking. I haven't had a bad day in weeks. I haven't missed a day of work in a long time. It's like the cloud that was over my head is gone. Sorry to go on and on, but sometimes I can go for hours and not even think about my cancer. Before it was on my mind almost constantly because I felt so bad. They say that happy thoughts can do wonders for anyone. Anyway Diane, thanks again for being so nice. I definitely will think of you as one of my Big C buddies if you don't mind. Take care, Diane

24242
Posts: 1417
Joined: Mar 2001

You should be able to post like the rest of us and I am sorry if you feel you cannot share for I know how important it is to have the ability to get things off our chests. I had moved away from ALL my family and my friends to be with my partner who could help mewith my angry teen and know I wouldn't have survived if I did not have a dumping ground for all my fears and a place to share since most people did not want to hear about it because they are into positivity God help someone should actually be ill and be honest about how they reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy feal.
I hope that you can still find a safe comfortable place to lay yours and actually there is nothing the matter with sharing.
Thanks for sharing
Tara

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