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Dog Girl
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I'm working from home today and just caught a commercial for Dr. Oz's show today. It is going to be about HPV and the cancers it causes. I'm going to DVR it, but it will be interesting to see if he mentions anal and throat cancer along with cervical cancer. I thought I would post this info in case anyone else wants to watch it. I don't know if you can go to Dr. Oz's website and see episodes or get the transcripts if you miss it.

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Thanks for letting us know about this--I just set my DVR.

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I am interested if everyone was as confused about HPV as I was after watching this show. I really felt like they were promoting the vaccines but only to a small age group and only boys if they were gay ???. They said you can get it just by rubbing skin to skin. I felt very uneasy afterwards and so did my husband.I am glad they mentioned that some people who get the cancer have never had anal sex or the warts associated with hpv. But the ghastly picture they showed of a cancer infected cervix by an unfortunate young person with hpv hit home since I had cervical cancer at 26 in situ and invasive squamous cell anal cancer at age 60. So far no one has mentioned any positive test results but said it would be an infinitesimal chance of me having both of these cancers without having hpv. I guess I need to ask them out right. Did you test me? I feel we are surrounded by hpv related cancers and really no one seems to understands hpv and how serious a health threat it is. It also appears the hpv test is not always accurate. It was so sad to hear of these young people dying of the cervical cancer I survived. They talked more about cervical cancer than anything else. It is nonsense that anyone is dying of these treatable cancers in this country. How much money did we spend fighting those wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and we can't get an intelligent informative television program on a common virus???? What's up with that?

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skin to skin not necessarily penetration. that really stood out for me. but other viruses are spread skin to skin so probably correct.(think of fever blisters).. i wish that my colorectal surgeon(done before i went to MD Anderson) had tested the biopsy for HPV. would have been good to know. sandy, you were blessed that they caught your cervical cancer at such an early age and more blessed that you are still here. yea!!! I would have liked more info put out there about anal cancer but seems this will not happen. yes, it is a shame that there are still deaths from cervical cancer. i only heard a little about it causing, vulvar, anal, and oral cancers but i might have missed that part. sephie

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I set my DVR to record this program, as I wasn't going to be home. I haven't had time to sit down and watch it yet, but I will. It sounds like there might have been some confusing information relayed during this show.

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I just read this, so did not see Dr. Oz show. Clearly, there needs to be more public service announcements about this cancer and hpv. Even today, I wonder if the hpv virus will stay in my body and spread elsewhere. I have had 2 cancers, supposedly unrelated. Nobody seems to have the answers. Is there any treatment for the hpv virus? Is research being done? I heard that anal cancer is on the rise and I wonder why? What really troubles me the most is all the doctors that I went to before anyone even suspected cancer, when clearly all the symptoms were there for yeRs. Doctors don't seem to have the knowledge about this cancer and this just has to change! I was going to doctors with great credentials......and depite the pain, blood, fatigue, and an ooozing lump, they chalked it up to hemmorhoids for years. How do we get the word out? There is so much publicity about breast cancer, that I start to feel a tad resentful. I have 2 rare cancers that do not even seem to be on doctors radars. Sorry to vent......lol

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I finally got time last evening to sit down and watch this episode of Dr. Oz. I thought, overall, it was pretty informative and accurate. I was pleased to hear Dr. Jennifer Ashton, a gynecologist, state clearly and matter-of-factly that it is not necessary to have had anal sex to get anal cancer when the subject of the stigma associated with HPV-related cancers was discussed. All women in the audience had been diagnosed with HPV and there were some very good questions asked by some of them. It was also explained that only skin-to-skin contact is necessary to acquire the virus, and that it can travel on the skin, infecting areas such as the anus. They did a good job of explaining that the virus can be acquired early in life, teen years, remain in the body undetected for decades with no symptoms whatsoever, only to be discovered after a cancer has been found. It was also explained that when women get pap smears and HPV tests, the HPV will often come back negative due to the location from where the cells were taken. Apparently, it is impossible to swab the entire cervix, and also possible for HPV to be located above the cervix, thus being missed on a pap smear. There was another test mentioned besides the pap and HPV tests that women should request but the name of it escapes me at this moment. I saved the recording and will have to watch it again. I don't know if the show is available for viewing online or not, but perhaps, to anyone who might have missed it. I'll see if there is a link to it that I can post. According to the numbers stated on that program, 80% of people over the age of 50 will be infected with this virus in one or more of it's forms. An HPV expert also appearing on the show did a good job of explaining that there are at least 100 strains of the virus, but that 16 and 18 were the cancer-causing ones. She also stated that there is currently no way to test males for HPV. However, that might not be entirely correct, due to the anal pap, which is not yet widely available. They were very explicit when discussing measures that should be taken regarding oral sex too. They discussed the HPV vaccine and I learned something new about it. Apparently, it only protects an individual for a limited time. I think I recall the expert saying 10 to perhaps 20 years, which is why they recommend it for teens and young adults, as it will cover them during the period when they are most sexually active and perhaps more prone to have multiple partners. It was also mentioned that for years, oral cancers were primarily blamed on tobacco and alcohol. However, HPV has come into light as the primary cause for a high percentage of those cancers.

Okay, that's it in a nutshell to the best of my recollection. I will try to find a link and post it here.

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http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/30-and-older-the-new-faces-hpv

Copy and paste into your browser and you should be able to see the full episode.

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hey, martha... i went to web site but can not get it to play the oral cancer part. do you mind telling me what they said about that?? not about alcohol or tobacco but does it mean the man needs to wear a condom during oral sex?? or what?? sorry if this is too explicit but people need to know. thanks sephie

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I just tried to go to the video on that part of the show and couldn't get to it either. Perhaps they've taken it off the site, I don't know.

Basically, they recommended using a condom for men during oral sex and a vaginal "dam" (I think that's what they called it), which was described as being like a piece of plastic wrap that goes over the vagina. Forgive me, but I got totally lost at that point! I thnk the bottom line is there is risk of getting HPV in the oral cavity from oral sex. One would not have to be a genius to figure that out, but obviously there's still a lot of denial about this virus.

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i thought that would be what was needed. what a life we live in. we will all just need to do the best that we can. i am married but was single for 22 years. i will just count all of our blessings to be doing as well as we are. at least the younger generation might become more aware than i was.... thx again. sephie

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I have always felt this way about you, Martha. But now know it for sure. Everything you said sounds accurate but you have a much better attitude toward what you heard. I believe you are right especially when it comes to the vaccine having an expiration time and timing giving it to the most active years. My first sexual experience I was raped, and didn't tell anyone so I look at those poor parents and think, "don't wait too long." I believe I heard or read somewhere that it is also because there would be shortages if the demand becomes too great too fast. Also, it seemed to me that no one on the show seemed to think a "vaginal" dam was too appealing especially the one for the mouth to prevent head and neck cancers.

We need more antiviral research funding. We can't even prevent a cold yet. This whole months is about breast cancer and I sympathize but even some breast cancers have been found to be hpv related. Not a word about the hpv esophageal cancer relationship or lung or breast cancer relationship but there is one and we know it.

I guess I am just weary.

Fondly,
Sandy

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I hope I have stated correctly the subjects discussed on the show. I agree with you in that parents should consider the vaccine at an early age for their kids, as the age of becoming sexually active seems to get younger and younger. As for research for preventing viruses to begin with, I couldn't agree more. Think of all the things that could be prevented in additional to anal cancer if viruses never had a chance to being with!

Marynb
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Thank you for all the information that you provide. When my daughter was 12 years old,she was given the vaccine. If I had ever known that it was only good for 10 to 20 years, I would have said no. At 12, she was still playing with American Girl Dolls! She was a very girlish teenager and did not date, really unitl college. So, she is now 22. I am wondering whether she needs another shot now?

When I was diagnosed with this cancer, my now ex. Husband's first response was to ask whether he could catch it. I had no answer. Did your spouses get tested? How likely is it that any partner would get a hpv related cancer? So many questions that may never have an answer.

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I don't know if it's recommended that someone who got the vaccine at the age of 12 be vaccinated again 10+ years later. That is a question for a doctor or other expert on the vaccine.

It's quite possible for a spouse to get HPV. I'm sure I've had HPV since I was a teen and I've been married to my husband for 41 years, so he most likely has the virus. As for testing, there really is no way to test a man for HPV, other than an anal pap smear, which is only used for men who engage in anal sex. Testing of other areas of the male genitalia does not seem feasible. HPV testing for women seems quite inconclusive to me. The test will only come back positive if the virus is active at the time the smear is done. Also, it depends greatly on the area that is smeared, according to what was said on the Dr. Oz show. HPV can be up above the cervix. Since a pap specimen is taken from the cervix, HPV could be missed.

The one encouraging fact about HPV is that even though 80% of the U.S. population will have it by the time they are age 50, only a small percentage of those infected will go on to develop cancer. What is not known is if this 80% number will continue to increase, which is likely. Of course, if a person is one of the unfortunate ones like you and me who develop anal, cervical or another HPV-related cancer, the numbers don't mean a thing.

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