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pete43lost_at_sea
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as i look out my bedroom window into the sunroom, i see a field of green.

not rolling hills but of wheatgrass. its cold here and the wheatgrass grows best about 18 degrees celcius. the sunroom is the warmest room in the house.

so i got the wheatgrass juicing going really well, so how easy is it to add a good handful of cilantro. now i am adding a piece of bitter melon as well.

this green juice is like a cup of poison, it tastes so bad it must be good for me.
google wheatgrass and cancer and building blood if your interested.

i have 10 trays growing, the seeds are cheap and the kids love cutting and watering the grass.

the local organic shop gives me the used trays, and i get another crop out of them. what a great shop.

the largest supplier of organic wheatgrass in sydney delivers a big tray for $23 each week, not that i need this anymore i have more wheatgrass than i can juice.

i am aiming at a couple of green juices a day. i also add in the broccoli powder, chorella and mcp if i have this juice at breaky or around dinner time.

it would be lovelly to think the cilantro is an effective chelating agent. i hope to start hardore chelation as soon as dysbios and mineral status adequate. then i will do a pre/post dmsa challenge for all those interested in chelation basics.

anyway just interested if anyone else here is into wheatgrass juicing ?

i love my champion juicer and the greens attachment.

hugs,
pete

ps i wish i had been using my greens attachment earlier. i waited until i got the wheatgrass project going, well i should not have waited, it gets so much more juice out of the green leaves.

Minnesotagirl
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Hey Pete,

I too have a Champion Juicer but do not have the grasses/greens attachment. I force parsley through it but it certainly doesn't like it ~ I am glad you shared this post about the grass attachment...I will have to look into the cost, etc.

I follow the carrot, green apple, red beet, parsley and fresh ginger routine. Sometimes I change it up and add spinach too, but I like to eat that so I usually save that for salads.
I haven't added cilantro...will have to try that. One day I experimented with mustard greens...oh boy, that was just terrible...

Thanks for the advice and enjoy the fields of green!

"Minnesotagirl"

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Try adding kale to the mix you have.

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We use wheat grass too. I don't have a attachment
on my champion juicer so just push wheat grass through
with a carrot. I push the pulp though the juicer a few
more times before the pulp goes into compost....get a
little more juice that way.
Praying things go well for you Pete.
Take care...Linda

smokeyjoe
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I drink a veggie greens every morning, it has wheat grass in it, I put it in the blender with my MCP....

janie1
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What kind of greens drink do you use? And how does MCP come - like in a powder?
I'm juicing, but would like to add a powder with things that I'm not juicing (not sure if that is good).

smokeyjoe
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It's a product by Progressive, they have different ones, fruit ones too. MCP is a powder you scoop out, same as the veggie greens. So, I have a magic bullett, and put the scoops in together and blend. I find the MCP is hard to mix up unless you use a blender type thing. It likes to clump in water. But, with the bullett this doesn't happen.

janie1
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Thank you smokeyjoe !

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another clear scan result tonight.

i am so relieved.

i would go the specialised greens attachment all the time, now today i chucked in a spinach and the stalk. the stalk is to much for the greens attachment. but the green spinach leaf is fine.

we live and learn and we share and care. if other people read this they would say what a load of bs, but from me it sincere.

the best news of my life so far, mixed in with juicing tips and tricks.

i went today pickup another cut tray from the orgqanic shop, one was ready for me. the big issue is mould, yes, you know the alt world theory on mould and cancer, well i ain't touching the mouldy tray to regrow.

so the big issue with the wheatgrass is not over watering it, i guess having some ventilation and warmth. just a thing any of us wheatgrass farmers need to be careful of.

also i have noticed how the different seed suppliers make a difference. the preferred local organic grass wholesaler has really good seeds.

as for the mcp clumping, i have the same issue, but a simpler fix, i use a 700ml tuperware shaker with manual mixer. i make whatever juice i want, poor it into the shaker, then add mcp, broccoli sprout powder, chorella and sometimes wheatgrass or barley green and a super greens mix. sometimes p protein powder. its effortless. these lightweight portable little shakers are then ready for my days adventures.

i often juice enough for 2 juicers, make one for the road and one for now.

having a carrot type juice assembly and the greens assembly as separate is fine as now i basically run a couple of juices through each during the day and only clean at night.

i still also make my green smoothies. which is carrot, beetroot, celery, garlic, kale. all juiced. then i poor 50% that juice into the blender with coconut water and or almond milk.

to that i add 1/4 lemon, and watercress, or cilantro, parsley, english spinach, spinach. anything green. blend and drink. the lemon makes this taste interesting.

sometimes its good to add some flax seed oil, or udo's oil or fish oil to your jiuce just for fun. then i sometimes chuck in some olive leaf extract, chia, phsyllum or slippery elm.

hugs,
pete

ps the wheatgrass novelty has not worn off yet, i hope it does not.

smokeyjoe
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Pete, have you tried this: Dandelion Greens In Your Green Smoothie
By Tracy Russell
Dandelion greens are my number one choice for a smoothie green. Not only do they provide a higher amount of calcium and iron than most cultivated greens, they have a wide array of health benefits that make them the perfect all around nutritional boost.

Here are ten reasons you should use dandelion greens in your next smoothie.

#1 – High in Calcium: Dandelion greens are loaded with calcium. Just one cup of chopped dandelion greens has 103 milligrams (10% of the recommended daily value) of calcium! That’s slightly more than kale! Add two to three cups of dandelion to a smoothie with calcium-rich fruits like orange, kiwi, fig or papaya and you’ll have a green smoothie that has more calcium than any dairy product!

#2 – Rich in Iron: Next to fresh parsley, dandelion greens have a high iron content. One cup contains 1.7 milligrams of iron.

#3 – Low Calories: Like all leafy greens, dandelions are low in calories. One cup of chopped dandelion greens has only 25 calories. While leafy greens are a low calorie food, I actually prefer to use dandelions because they have more calories than other greens. Since I try to get as many calories as I can into my morning smoothies, I add up to 4 cups of dandelion which adds 100 calories of nutrient-rich food!

#4 – Loaded With Antioxidants: Dandelion greens are high in vitamin A in the form of antioxidant carotenoid (beta-carotene) and vitamin C. Vitamin C also helps facilitate iron absorption.

#5 – The Ultimate Detox & Cleansing Green: If your goal is detoxification and cleansing, dandelion greens should be the ones you use in green smoothies! They are said to help cleanse the liver and many detox recipes call for them.

#6 – Lots Of Minerals: Dandelion greens are rich in minerals. Besides calcium and iron, they are a good source of copper (10% RDA), manganese (8% RDA), phosphorus (5% RDA), potassium (5% RDA) and magnesium (5% RDA).

#7 – 14% Protein: Dandelion greens have more protein per serving than spinach. The greens themselves are 14% protein and contain all essential amino acids so it’s a complete protein. One chopped cup contains 1.5 grams of protein.

#8 – Multivitamin Green: Besides vitamin A as beta-carotene (186% RDA) and vitamin C (21% RDA), each cup of chopped dandelion greens are also good sources of vitamins B1 (9% RDA), B2 (11% RDA) and B6 (11% RDA), vitamin E (13% RDA) and especially abundant in vitamin K (357% RDA).

#10 – Health Benefits of Dandelion Greens: The nutrients in dandelion greens may help reduce the risk of cancer, multiple sclerosis, cataracts, age-related macular degeneration and stroke. Dandelion contains anti-inflammatory properties which may provide benefit to those with asthma and other inflammatory diseases

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dandleion greens, interesting.

high iron, i almost think is a negative, as its needed in angiogensisus if i remember. i know alt docs not keen on supplements with iron, my iron levels are fine, its dam zinc thats in issue. but the info you provided is really interesting and i would put it into my after cea is down, then yes, but not while i am playing cea routlette.

i could always start growing it and give it to the wife and the kids. i will google the species.

I only add in a little parsley, i might leave it out of my greens as most of my minerals i am at the high levels.

hugs,
pete

smokeyjoe
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I thought Pete you were taking.... Artemisinin works by releasing an avalanche of free radicals when exposed to an oxidizing agent like iron. The free radicals attack and kill iron-rich cells. Since cancer cells tend to contain much more iron than normal cells do, they are particularly attractive to artemisinin. When exposed to cancer cells artemisinin gets activated and sends out free radicals that attack those cells, destroying the cancer in the process. This effect can be amplified by sending additional iron to cancer cells.

Last line is interesting??

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now this is a great question.

i just paid $175 for 5 x artemisinin but shots that i do my self.
been only doing 1 a week to cut back, but have decided to all out over the next month, maybe 3 a week.

also taking 200mg artemisinin caps 2 morning and 2 night. i will ask my alt doc about the iron effect you have described. while iron is pro, while being a parts of the artemisinin cell death strategy, its a con when you consider angiogenisis.

dammed if you do and don't. goto love the confusion and opinions. mine is that my iron levels are fine, i just don't want to go over the top with iron. i will ask the alt doc's but i know my gut feeling will be based on more research and experience than theirs. i gave them the research papers on artemisinin in the first place 6 months ago when this all started.

maybe we should start an artemisinin post ? what do you think.
jsut got 300 caps for $120 on iherb, that 75 days supply. gee its expensive, about $1.30 a day for the caps. now the butt shots at $35 each add up. butt say for two a week the whole alt program for artemisinin is 70 plus 10 oh $80 a week., not much over $10 a day. i hope it helps.

hugs,
pete

smokeyjoe
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I hope it helps too, who knows....I thought that article on it was interesting. Seems whatever research you find that says something positive, you can find another contradicting it.

manwithnoname
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"Minimize iron rich food, such as meat, as much as possible. Iron supplement is NOT necessary."

"Additionally, the patient may take 2 to 4 capsules of butyrate"

Narendra P. Singh
Research Associate Professor
Department of Bioengineering
University of Washington

From a personal email from the Professor, he seems to know more about Artemisinin than anyone.

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I cheat and eat my brocolli sprouts on a peanut butter sandwich. It's the only way I can get them down. Have to look into wheatgrass.

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so after a few weeks of wheatgrass juicing and a good crop.
I have broken the plastic surround twice now on the champion.

So i have been told no more changes under warrantee, it seems you have to be ultra careful with the wheatgrass attachment while the hard vegetable attachment is indestructible.

i would not buy the champion greens attachment for regular wheatgrass greens juicing is more than once daily. it maybe ok for infrequent greens juicing. but it does leave alot of juice in the pulp. here is the catch, you have to run the pulp through the juicer again. this gets the remaining juice. to achieve this according the manufacturer you can only refeed less than a 2 inch piece of pulp. so i measured what i did today and i put through a 3 inch piece, so its pretty fragile. i have no confidence using the attachment now.

so my initial enthusiam the greens attachment has been replaced with regret at having it.

now the champion is still a great juicer for carrots, etc. Its suited to that job and not greens. the company could fix this if they wanted to i guess, the clear plastic on the greens is alot weaker and less durable than the coloured plastic used in the standard juicing attachment.

i have asked a few friends and a second hand good quality reliable juicer is soon. so i have fields of wheatgrass and no juicer at present.

so i don't recommend the champion greens attachment. now the customer service has been good after an initial delay, but i am confused as to why the greens attachment has a 12 month warantee and the juicer itself supposedly has a 10 year warrantee. the lengthy warrantee is what attracted me in the first place as well as a good personal recommendation from a doctor.

i had assumed based on my previous good experience with the champion would be fine, it started out that way, but i started adding more and more greens to the green juice and the mint stalks seemed to break the surround the first time. the wheatgrass did it the second time. given i am convinced on the benefits of wheatgrass its a bit stressful having your juicer out of action.

I checked the champion website and all the greens attachment limitations are not listed that i could find, but the customer service drew my attention to them. So you buy the greens attachment and the limitations arrive with it in writing, that you need to remember. i will be interested in their reply.

I found the instruction manual.
http://www.championjuicer.com/greens_attachment_manual.pdf
It says "With wheatgrass, introduce no more than about
a 2 inch piece of pulp at one time." well its correct because 3 inches breaks it. They don't tell you that. So I am glad they are replacing it, and i will be very careful in future. also the greens attachment only has a 12 month warrantee, so your juicer will last 10 years, but the attachment thats a fundamental part of the unit, only lasts 12 months, or that all they are happy the guarantee, so you may need to be prepared to buy a few greens attachments if you are doing alot of wheatgrass.

I love thinking about long term warrantee issues when we also have colorectal cancer to consider. Now one goal is to last at least as long as the main unit warrantee 10 years and not for the 1 year greens attachment. in fact when the greens attachment breaks and i have replace it after 12 months, i will do so joyfully. Everyday is a blessing, every if its got challenges from financial issues to broken juicers.

hugs,
pete

ps the manufacturer or the australian agent who is helpful suggested removing the big oring that prevents some leak between the greens attachment and the motor, this removes some presure.

I also tried fixing the snapped plastic surround with a good plastics glue, it lasted about 5 minutes.

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Hi,

Its been awhile that I have been on here, I think. I am really interested in this at juicing. What does this do to us colorectal cancer pts? And I have to ask, does any1 have alot more loose stools. Please any assistance I would appreciate so I could try also. Thank you. Please email me.

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I definately have looser stools but it could also be fron nearly 7 years of surgeries and treatments.

I grow my own wheatgrass. I use a Waring Pro juicer for my carrots and other veggies. I us a manual auger type wheat grass juicer for my wwheat grass. You need this type of juicer to squeeze the juice out of the grass rather than pulverise like standard juicers.

Go to wheatgrasskits.com. you can get a starter kit which includes seeds, soil,instruction book, growing trays, and juicer for $160. I suggest you also order a sprouting jar. I have been doing it for 6 months with great success.

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On what you juice,

I make a mean probiotic almond chocolate smoothie.

My bowels are getting better and better.

To much strong juice is dangerous, as anything overdone.

Loose stools and fecal incontinence, my most recent serious issue has b
Been resolved by diet changes, a small amount fish and chicken.

And probiotics. I also stopped Colonics that I suspect wiped out my good bug.

Hugs,
Pete

Ps juicing advantages for crc, well first is bioavail nutrients

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I'm so jealous on the wheatgrass. I try to get a shot when I go into town...

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Thats what I try to have daily, so I make my juice 1 arrot, celery stick and half beet.

So cup above juice,
13 soaked almond,
Tsp cacao
Tsp cinnamon,
Teaspoonmacca
Lots of green leaves.
Mabe cilantro, kale, palsy.

I blend and drink.
I also some times add a frozen bananana.

Hugs,
Pete

So Worried
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Hi,
I'm not too sure on how to buy or consume wheatgrass? Is there a simple way of getting it?
Thank you so much. I am not a juicer, yet.

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I just bought some good quality seed from local organic sho, which sells wheat grass by the shot.
Soak overnight in water.
Put some organic potting mix on a tray.
Water daily.
Two weeks later I have fields of green.

Cut a handful of grass and juice.

Goodluck and be well,

Hugs,
Pete

Ps it's fun and Google it

So Worried
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Thank you Pete...so you have to grow it, correct? thank you again.

ketziah35
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I wish that someone had told me how nasty wheatgrass tasted before I tasted it and that I would need to buy an extra case of toilet tissue when I increased the number of raw veggies in my diet. Warning-do not walk behind me.

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We have a wonderful healthfood store that sells frozen cubes of wheatgrass (from Canada?)

I know its not the same as gowing fresh for juicers but it is convenient to take e/am or add to smoothies.

I don't have a juicier but a blender.

Have been experimenting with protein powders lately. Not my favorite.

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sufficient protein is essential, so i view those tasteless powders as essential, so add them to an organic carrot and beetroot drink. i do.

hugs,
Pete

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come on ketziah, a you think whetgrss is bad, try adding bitter melon and coriandor.
actually my wheatgrass is sweet and tasty. i mist be the fact that i grow it with love, or i have destroyed my taste buds in the previous few months. who knows but the science behind wheatgrass is complelling for me.

personally i prefer in the yoga squat in the good old potty.
and baby wipes for the explosive part of the business.

hugs,
pete

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As my oncology nutritionist says - don't waste calories on something you do not enjoy!

Add something in to make the taste better. You can add wheatgrass to other combos that would be palatable.

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Where is a good place to start if I am new to juicing. Everything I read about it is really good. I heard the Nutribullet is a good product for juicing - anyone use this one?

I am CC 3b with 3 nodes and with no mets. On Tuesday I am scheduled for chemo 12 of 12 (Yeah). My focus no is switching from chemo mode to nutrition mode.

All help appreciated.

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