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dj12
dj12 Member Posts: 11
Hi,
I am new to CSN. Recently diagnosed with right tonsil cancer which travelled to 3 lymph nodes. For the last 2 months I have been
through a series of doctor appointments. Just had my wisdom teeth pulled last week. Getting ready to get PEG Tube put in on Friday.
was wondering what the recovery time is. Been told anywhere from 2 days to 7. Also, I workout everyday and feel great right now.
Almost feels like I'm living in 2 different worlds. Although I realize that is about to change. Will I be able to continue to workout with the tube for awhile until the Radiation & Chemo change that?
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  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
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    I can't answer your questions...
    but I'm waiting here in the wings for the answers you receive. I'm getting my PEG tube day after tomorrow (knock on wood)...and I want to know too :).

    p
  • Mikemetz
    Mikemetz Member Posts: 465 Member
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    Working out with PEG tube
    Speaking only from my experience, you should be able to continue some of your workouts with the PEG tube. Mine extended about 12 inches out of my stomach and I used an Ace bandage wrap to keep it secure to my body when I wasn't using it. That allowed me to jog with no problem, and to do some limited range stretching/movement in that area. You will need to avoid any exercise that puts a large amount of strain on your upper abdominal muscles, or risks stretching the tube out of place. Of course, you should get your tube doc's opinion and OK on this, since your situation could be different from mine.

    Mike
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
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    Almost no actual recovery time. Will likely be a little sore in the area where the abdominal wall was cut thru for a couple days. As in all of my C Ops, drove myself home after the Op (had a co-worker walk me out of the hospital and drive me to my car in the parking lot). Not sure about working out for several days, though, as your body will need some rest time to get used to the breach- you want your innards to mend good.

    Welcome to the group. Not sure you know this, but the fact is you're gonna survive this thing- so get used to it! Oh yeah. We all survive, now.

    Believe

    kcass
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
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    Welcome..
    Welcome to the forum, great folks here and tons of experience....

    I also was STGIII SCC Tonsils (right) and a lymphnode (also right)..HPV+. That was Dx on January 2, 2009. Tonsils removeed, nine weeks of chemo, then and additional seven weeks of concurrent chemo and rads.

    As Kent said, current treatment and recovery is very successful these days.

    Here is the SuperThread, it has tons of info comoiled by many here, put to a thread by Dawn (Sweetblood22);

    SuperThread

    There is an entire section of links on the PEG... I think Dawn has even put links to photos of hers when she had it.

    Best,
    John
  • Greend
    Greend Member Posts: 678
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    ditto on stretching
    I have had very few problems with my tube however I did lose it one when I was stretching to reach a vent in the ceiling. I would avoid that if possible.
  • dj12
    dj12 Member Posts: 11
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    Thank you everyone for your
    Thank you everyone for your replies. I'm glad I found this website. It's nice to know there are people who understand what I am about to go through and can help me prepare for what is ahead. I myself had no real understanding of what cancer was really all about until I was diagnosed. I'm sure I will have plenty more questions along the way. Thank you for being there.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
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    dj12 said:

    Thank you everyone for your
    Thank you everyone for your replies. I'm glad I found this website. It's nice to know there are people who understand what I am about to go through and can help me prepare for what is ahead. I myself had no real understanding of what cancer was really all about until I was diagnosed. I'm sure I will have plenty more questions along the way. Thank you for being there.

    Education...
    It's an education for sure...one with a fast learning curve at that....we have all been there.

    Best,
    John
  • mls351w
    mls351w Member Posts: 90
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    Skiffin16 said:

    Education...
    It's an education for sure...one with a fast learning curve at that....we have all been there.

    Best,
    John

    peg & port
    I got my peg and port the same day by two different doctors. Don't remember having any pain afterwards so recovery time was nil. Worked out with it until second round of chemo.
    As I stated on another thread, be sure to pump the liquids in slowly. I always had severe heart burn and vomited once or twice until I slowed the intake process down. The only issue was a little redness and tenderness around the hole after 5 or 6 weeks.
    As said before, you will get through this, you will!
    Welcome and best wishes.
  • Mikemetz
    Mikemetz Member Posts: 465 Member
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    dj12 said:

    Thank you everyone for your
    Thank you everyone for your replies. I'm glad I found this website. It's nice to know there are people who understand what I am about to go through and can help me prepare for what is ahead. I myself had no real understanding of what cancer was really all about until I was diagnosed. I'm sure I will have plenty more questions along the way. Thank you for being there.

    Don't be shy
    Don't be shy about asking questions as you move along with your treatments, recovery...and survival! Many treatment plans for HNC are remarkably similar, so there is probably nothing you'll face that one or more of us here hasn't experienced--and would be glad to share with you. This is a great resource in so many ways.

    Mike
  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
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    mls351w said:

    peg & port
    I got my peg and port the same day by two different doctors. Don't remember having any pain afterwards so recovery time was nil. Worked out with it until second round of chemo.
    As I stated on another thread, be sure to pump the liquids in slowly. I always had severe heart burn and vomited once or twice until I slowed the intake process down. The only issue was a little redness and tenderness around the hole after 5 or 6 weeks.
    As said before, you will get through this, you will!
    Welcome and best wishes.

    One hour to go..
    ...and I'll have my PEG in. Only dread I'm having is coming from the "bad luck kid" scenerio I'm just getting past now...I'm still in the hospital from the port placement fiasco. However, I've been off the pump that inflates my lung for 13 hours with many walks up and down the halls..and tho my lung is still deflated, I'm asymptomatic..no more breathlessness, or pain when I do something...so may be going home with a portable thing to keep the hole sealed.

    Yes...HOME! where I belong...with my doggie and my man. I'm excited.

    p
  • ditto1
    ditto1 Member Posts: 660
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    One hour to go..
    ...and I'll have my PEG in. Only dread I'm having is coming from the "bad luck kid" scenerio I'm just getting past now...I'm still in the hospital from the port placement fiasco. However, I've been off the pump that inflates my lung for 13 hours with many walks up and down the halls..and tho my lung is still deflated, I'm asymptomatic..no more breathlessness, or pain when I do something...so may be going home with a portable thing to keep the hole sealed.

    Yes...HOME! where I belong...with my doggie and my man. I'm excited.

    p

    Want to Go Home
    Hey, P51, thinking and praying for ya Daily, hope it goes well today. Dorothy of the Wizard of OZ just tapped her Red Shoes together and said "I want to go Home" so tap your hospital booties together and get out of there... and I agree with the others on this post no matter what your question maybe they have the answers...
  • Ingrid K
    Ingrid K Member Posts: 813
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    Mikemetz said:

    Don't be shy
    Don't be shy about asking questions as you move along with your treatments, recovery...and survival! Many treatment plans for HNC are remarkably similar, so there is probably nothing you'll face that one or more of us here hasn't experienced--and would be glad to share with you. This is a great resource in so many ways.

    Mike

    phrannie status ?
    Phrannie, did you get your feeding tube in today ? How did it go ? How do you feel ?
    I've been thinking about you since your post this morning.
  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
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    Ingrid K said:

    phrannie status ?
    Phrannie, did you get your feeding tube in today ? How did it go ? How do you feel ?
    I've been thinking about you since your post this morning.

    Yes...tube is in...
    no complications other than gawd awful charlie horses in my gut...enough so that I spent this one last night in the hospital to put them to rest. I slept from noon to midnight, but now I'm feeling a lot better. Poor hubby didn't know what to do for me, a deer in the headlights...he never has seen me acknowledge pain....and was scared to touch me, I think. Sister Vickie jumped in, and got me situated in bed...got me some drugs...and some food...and I slept for the rest of the day and night. Will be going home in the morning.

    p
  • Ingrid K
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    Yes...tube is in...
    no complications other than gawd awful charlie horses in my gut...enough so that I spent this one last night in the hospital to put them to rest. I slept from noon to midnight, but now I'm feeling a lot better. Poor hubby didn't know what to do for me, a deer in the headlights...he never has seen me acknowledge pain....and was scared to touch me, I think. Sister Vickie jumped in, and got me situated in bed...got me some drugs...and some food...and I slept for the rest of the day and night. Will be going home in the morning.

    p

    that sounds good--your own
    that sounds good--your own bed at home is always the best. Thank God for Sister Vickie. Don't worry, your husband will quickly figure out what needs to be done as your caregiver.
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
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    Ingrid K said:

    that sounds good--your own
    that sounds good--your own bed at home is always the best. Thank God for Sister Vickie. Don't worry, your husband will quickly figure out what needs to be done as your caregiver.

    P51
    Finally! Know this early part of your experience has not gone as planned- just bumps in the road. Do not see your Port Surgeon as having any legit excuse for the lung thing, which is to say it likely/logically could have been avoided.

    Dawn/Sweet used a wrap around her entire upper-body to hold the PEG against her chest. I used paper tape. And 2x2 gauze, though most prefer 3x3 that you custom cut to fit under the flap and against your skin- something that should be done daily, along with soap and water washing of the area. And would advise having your hubby get a bottle of coca-cola and put in the fridge- for use if you have a blockage of the PEG. Likely won't happen once/if you start regular use, but Coke is the stuff to clear the block. Jevity is what most prescribe, due to the fiber content, but there are also recipes out there. And flush with some water on a regular basis.

    Top of your PEG a flexible clear plastic-like? Be a little careful in unplugging it, as that can tear. Took a long time for mine to, but did, so support the plastic area when you pull to open the tube up. There are different varieties. Mine type was first used for soldiers who got a tummy full of buckshot in the gut back in the Civil War, I tell people, as it seemed a bit 19th Century. But, oh, what a blessing it was. Feel real good about it, Phrannie- you got your insurance for the all-important Nutrition avenue already in place, so you're covered. Now, lets get this thing started to get old C out of you, because the year of 2025 is just up around the bend for you.

    Believe

    kcass
  • phrannie51
    phrannie51 Member Posts: 4,716
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    Kent Cass said:

    P51
    Finally! Know this early part of your experience has not gone as planned- just bumps in the road. Do not see your Port Surgeon as having any legit excuse for the lung thing, which is to say it likely/logically could have been avoided.

    Dawn/Sweet used a wrap around her entire upper-body to hold the PEG against her chest. I used paper tape. And 2x2 gauze, though most prefer 3x3 that you custom cut to fit under the flap and against your skin- something that should be done daily, along with soap and water washing of the area. And would advise having your hubby get a bottle of coca-cola and put in the fridge- for use if you have a blockage of the PEG. Likely won't happen once/if you start regular use, but Coke is the stuff to clear the block. Jevity is what most prescribe, due to the fiber content, but there are also recipes out there. And flush with some water on a regular basis.

    Top of your PEG a flexible clear plastic-like? Be a little careful in unplugging it, as that can tear. Took a long time for mine to, but did, so support the plastic area when you pull to open the tube up. There are different varieties. Mine type was first used for soldiers who got a tummy full of buckshot in the gut back in the Civil War, I tell people, as it seemed a bit 19th Century. But, oh, what a blessing it was. Feel real good about it, Phrannie- you got your insurance for the all-important Nutrition avenue already in place, so you're covered. Now, lets get this thing started to get old C out of you, because the year of 2025 is just up around the bend for you.

    Believe

    kcass

    Kent...This will be another one of your posts
    that I will print out just like my list of questions to the Rad-onc...I want to have feeding tube instructions easily accessable. I guess the hospital will also be sending a Home Health Nurse out to show me how it works, but have no clue when that will happen. I'll have to investigate it a little when I get home.

    I'm just ready to blow this joint. Looks like chemo and rads will start this coming Monday, so only a week late getting started, not such a bad delay (I certainly have waiting lots of weeks on other people's stuff). I've got all my stuff packed, and just need to get dressed, and hubby is on his way to pick me up.

    The lung prick probably could have been avoided, it's hard to say what all took place...I do know that this has been pretty traumatic for the surgeon, and tho I'll probably not need her services again, we will be fiends for a long time. She spent hours with me, keeping in touch with me, bringing me things I might need at the hospital, totally unrelated to medicine...girlie things...I even met her children...LOL

    So yes..we're back on the road now...and I do BELIEVE that I'm on the way to a long healthy life.

    So everybody....I'll be seeing y'all from home next post!! :)

    p
  • Mrs. Sarge
    Mrs. Sarge Member Posts: 206 Member
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    Kent...This will be another one of your posts
    that I will print out just like my list of questions to the Rad-onc...I want to have feeding tube instructions easily accessable. I guess the hospital will also be sending a Home Health Nurse out to show me how it works, but have no clue when that will happen. I'll have to investigate it a little when I get home.

    I'm just ready to blow this joint. Looks like chemo and rads will start this coming Monday, so only a week late getting started, not such a bad delay (I certainly have waiting lots of weeks on other people's stuff). I've got all my stuff packed, and just need to get dressed, and hubby is on his way to pick me up.

    The lung prick probably could have been avoided, it's hard to say what all took place...I do know that this has been pretty traumatic for the surgeon, and tho I'll probably not need her services again, we will be fiends for a long time. She spent hours with me, keeping in touch with me, bringing me things I might need at the hospital, totally unrelated to medicine...girlie things...I even met her children...LOL

    So yes..we're back on the road now...and I do BELIEVE that I'm on the way to a long healthy life.

    So everybody....I'll be seeing y'all from home next post!! :)

    p

    Good for you
    phrannie, glad you're going home. Sorry for all the bumps but you've got a terrific attitude that will carry you all the way to the finish line!!! Rest and pet yourself!!
    You deserve it!
  • Greend
    Greend Member Posts: 678
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    Kent...This will be another one of your posts
    that I will print out just like my list of questions to the Rad-onc...I want to have feeding tube instructions easily accessable. I guess the hospital will also be sending a Home Health Nurse out to show me how it works, but have no clue when that will happen. I'll have to investigate it a little when I get home.

    I'm just ready to blow this joint. Looks like chemo and rads will start this coming Monday, so only a week late getting started, not such a bad delay (I certainly have waiting lots of weeks on other people's stuff). I've got all my stuff packed, and just need to get dressed, and hubby is on his way to pick me up.

    The lung prick probably could have been avoided, it's hard to say what all took place...I do know that this has been pretty traumatic for the surgeon, and tho I'll probably not need her services again, we will be fiends for a long time. She spent hours with me, keeping in touch with me, bringing me things I might need at the hospital, totally unrelated to medicine...girlie things...I even met her children...LOL

    So yes..we're back on the road now...and I do BELIEVE that I'm on the way to a long healthy life.

    So everybody....I'll be seeing y'all from home next post!! :)

    p

    Instructions
    I think it must be a thing hospitals do everywhere. I had my tube inserted, sent to a room to wake up and then sent home. No syringe, no instructions, no nothing. That night I found I had pneumonia and had to go back to the hospital for seven days. While there I was shown how to feed with the syringe and to flush it out with water afterward. I later went to a gastro md and had him explain the care and warnings to watch out for. I too was one who bandaged up the area (there is a 4x4 pad called a "drain sponge" that is already split and ready to place around the tube (I bought a case of them on ebay. Every day, went through tons of paper tape (Johnson brand sucked - I liked the 3M) and pulled every hair I had from my stomach area with the referenced 3M tape. I cleaned it with alcohol or peroxide and usually added some antibiotic cream as well. Now something I need to clear up before I proceed, this was all done 13 years post treatment so my body was not as messed up as it would have been before/during treatment. However now I simply let my tube hang loose (flop in the breeze as my wife says) do not tape it up unless my clothes dictate it, haven't needed the drain sponges and basically just leave it alone other than when eating. I always wear a snug t-shirt and clean the area at least twice a day and have only had three times when the tube cover snagged on my clothes and gave me that warm wet feeling..... I will recommend that if your tube has a clamp to pinch off the tube then don't pinch it off in the same place every time because that can and will cause the tube to wear out in that one spot and start to leak.

    I will say my tube is my best friend and my worst enemy. It keeps me alive but is also a constant reminder.

    Denny

    PS Yes you can pour a beer down the tube but it won't clean it out but after a few you won't care :>)
  • Greend
    Greend Member Posts: 678
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    Kent...This will be another one of your posts
    that I will print out just like my list of questions to the Rad-onc...I want to have feeding tube instructions easily accessable. I guess the hospital will also be sending a Home Health Nurse out to show me how it works, but have no clue when that will happen. I'll have to investigate it a little when I get home.

    I'm just ready to blow this joint. Looks like chemo and rads will start this coming Monday, so only a week late getting started, not such a bad delay (I certainly have waiting lots of weeks on other people's stuff). I've got all my stuff packed, and just need to get dressed, and hubby is on his way to pick me up.

    The lung prick probably could have been avoided, it's hard to say what all took place...I do know that this has been pretty traumatic for the surgeon, and tho I'll probably not need her services again, we will be fiends for a long time. She spent hours with me, keeping in touch with me, bringing me things I might need at the hospital, totally unrelated to medicine...girlie things...I even met her children...LOL

    So yes..we're back on the road now...and I do BELIEVE that I'm on the way to a long healthy life.

    So everybody....I'll be seeing y'all from home next post!! :)

    p

    Instructions
    I think it must be a thing hospitals do everywhere. I had my tube inserted, sent to a room to wake up and then sent home. No syringe, no instructions, no nothing. That night I found I had pneumonia and had to go back to the hospital for seven days. While there I was shown how to feed with the syringe and to flush it out with water afterward. I later went to a gastro md and had him explain the care and warnings to watch out for. I too was one who bandaged up the area (there is a 4x4 pad called a "drain sponge" that is already split and ready to place around the tube (I bought a case of them on ebay. Every day, went through tons of paper tape (Johnson brand sucked - I liked the 3M) and pulled every hair I had from my stomach area with the referenced 3M tape. I cleaned it with alcohol or peroxide and usually added some antibiotic cream as well. Now something I need to clear up before I proceed, this was all done 13 years post treatment so my body was not as messed up as it would have been before/during treatment. However now I simply let my tube hang loose (flop in the breeze as my wife says) do not tape it up unless my clothes dictate it, haven't needed the drain sponges and basically just leave it alone other than when eating. I always wear a snug t-shirt and clean the area at least twice a day and have only had three times when the tube cover snagged on my clothes and gave me that warm wet feeling..... I will recommend that if your tube has a clamp to pinch off the tube then don't pinch it off in the same place every time because that can and will cause the tube to wear out in that one spot and start to leak.

    I will say my tube is my best friend and my worst enemy. It keeps me alive but is also a constant reminder.

    Denny

    PS Yes you can pour a beer down the tube but it won't clean it out but after a few you won't care :>)
  • Greend
    Greend Member Posts: 678
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    Greend said:

    Instructions
    I think it must be a thing hospitals do everywhere. I had my tube inserted, sent to a room to wake up and then sent home. No syringe, no instructions, no nothing. That night I found I had pneumonia and had to go back to the hospital for seven days. While there I was shown how to feed with the syringe and to flush it out with water afterward. I later went to a gastro md and had him explain the care and warnings to watch out for. I too was one who bandaged up the area (there is a 4x4 pad called a "drain sponge" that is already split and ready to place around the tube (I bought a case of them on ebay. Every day, went through tons of paper tape (Johnson brand sucked - I liked the 3M) and pulled every hair I had from my stomach area with the referenced 3M tape. I cleaned it with alcohol or peroxide and usually added some antibiotic cream as well. Now something I need to clear up before I proceed, this was all done 13 years post treatment so my body was not as messed up as it would have been before/during treatment. However now I simply let my tube hang loose (flop in the breeze as my wife says) do not tape it up unless my clothes dictate it, haven't needed the drain sponges and basically just leave it alone other than when eating. I always wear a snug t-shirt and clean the area at least twice a day and have only had three times when the tube cover snagged on my clothes and gave me that warm wet feeling..... I will recommend that if your tube has a clamp to pinch off the tube then don't pinch it off in the same place every time because that can and will cause the tube to wear out in that one spot and start to leak.

    I will say my tube is my best friend and my worst enemy. It keeps me alive but is also a constant reminder.

    Denny

    PS Yes you can pour a beer down the tube but it won't clean it out but after a few you won't care :>)

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