Receding gums.

Anyone know if radiation causes this issue or makes it worse? Or can all this brushing I do make it hard on my gums?

Those that use the water pic thingie, does it hurt? Would that be better for my gums?
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  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Hi Sweet
    My gums and teeth are damaged so bad that I don’t think anything will help them and yes it was all caused from the radiation twice to the head. I do brush the gums as it makes them feel better, not sure if that is good or bad.

    Hondo
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    I guess what I'm wondering
    I guess what I'm wondering is, can you brush away your gums?
  • osmotar
    osmotar Member Posts: 1,006

    I guess what I'm wondering
    I guess what I'm wondering is, can you brush away your gums?

    I have
    I have that problem with my eye teeth, dental tech tells me its from possible clenching my teeth and/or the way I brush.
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member

    I guess what I'm wondering
    I guess what I'm wondering is, can you brush away your gums?

    Sweet

    What I was told by my dentist was to brush the gums as well as the teeth but use a soft tooth brush. Bushing the gums I think help with blood circulation and we need that. Hope someone else can elaborate a little better than I can.

    Hondo
  • longtermsurvivor
    longtermsurvivor Member Posts: 1,842 Member

    I guess what I'm wondering
    I guess what I'm wondering is, can you brush away your gums?

    not really
    I am now almost 14 years out from radiation. I lost a bunch of gumline during radiation, but not appreciably since then. There is a difference between recession and formation of pockets. the first doesn't cause a lot of trouble as a rule, the second does. The reason for this happening post radiation is the usual stuff- qualitative and quantitative differences in saliva, bacterial flora, etc. Also, of course, dimininished vasculature to the gingiva. But not brushing. Brushing good!
  • ratface
    ratface Member Posts: 1,337 Member

    not really
    I am now almost 14 years out from radiation. I lost a bunch of gumline during radiation, but not appreciably since then. There is a difference between recession and formation of pockets. the first doesn't cause a lot of trouble as a rule, the second does. The reason for this happening post radiation is the usual stuff- qualitative and quantitative differences in saliva, bacterial flora, etc. Also, of course, dimininished vasculature to the gingiva. But not brushing. Brushing good!

    water pik is wonderful
    Hi Sweet, I couldn't live without the water pik. Once you use it and see all the gunk that is left between your gums after just brushing you will never be without one. I've got an electric and battery one. The settings are adjustable so you can dial up a gentle pressure without pain or hurting your gums. It will help you.
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    ratface said:

    water pik is wonderful
    Hi Sweet, I couldn't live without the water pik. Once you use it and see all the gunk that is left between your gums after just brushing you will never be without one. I've got an electric and battery one. The settings are adjustable so you can dial up a gentle pressure without pain or hurting your gums. It will help you.

    Thanks, Ratface. I am
    Thanks, Ratface. I am always amazed that there is stuff still there after I spin brush and rinse. That there is always crud on the floss. I think because of the lack of saliva I just feel like crap is ways stuck on my teeth.
  • jim and i
    jim and i Member Posts: 1,788 Member
    water pic yes
    Our dentist recommended one years ago for getting under bridges and crowns. Even with normal saliva it is amazing the amount your brush leaves behind. Even the tongue cleaner attach ment is great. If you use it after onions it gets rid of the after taste. Amazing!

    Seems strange to be giving you advice. Usually the other way around :)

    Blessings

    Debbie
  • fisrpotpe
    fisrpotpe Member Posts: 1,349 Member

    I guess what I'm wondering
    I guess what I'm wondering is, can you brush away your gums?

    aware
    I am not a doc or dentist but I do not believe you can brush your gums away.

    I do know mine were hurting alot until I started to use the Sonicare tooth brush and huge help with dryness when i start to use very warm water with toothpaste and waterpic
  • jtl
    jtl Member Posts: 456
    Gums
    I have been told that it is very beneficial to brush the gums with a soft toothbrush, actually more like the area where the tooth meets the gum because that area is prone to caries. I have lots of crowns and there is a space between the gum and the crown that needs special attention. The water pic is a very useful.
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    After poking around on the
    After poking around on the Internet, it does seem that you can brush away your gums. I think I may need to not be as vigorous as I was being and go a little softer with my gums. I definitely want to look into the water pik.
  • Greend
    Greend Member Posts: 678
    ratface said:

    water pik is wonderful
    Hi Sweet, I couldn't live without the water pik. Once you use it and see all the gunk that is left between your gums after just brushing you will never be without one. I've got an electric and battery one. The settings are adjustable so you can dial up a gentle pressure without pain or hurting your gums. It will help you.

    waterpic
    I too have electric and battery operated pics. They are great and you can adjust the pressure to make sure you don't cause bleeding. The attachments on the new ones are great including the brush and the tongue scraper. I consider it a "must have" to protect my teeth after rads.

    Denny
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    Greend said:

    waterpic
    I too have electric and battery operated pics. They are great and you can adjust the pressure to make sure you don't cause bleeding. The attachments on the new ones are great including the brush and the tongue scraper. I consider it a "must have" to protect my teeth after rads.

    Denny

    Tongue scraper
    Just the thought of that causes me great pain and makes my eyes water. There will be no tongue scraping for me. Owie.
  • jim and i
    jim and i Member Posts: 1,788 Member
    tongue scrapping
    It is not a painful thing unless you press hard. I just lightly touch my tongue and the water rinses it awy. Keeps breath sweet! :P
  • Greend
    Greend Member Posts: 678

    Tongue scraper
    Just the thought of that causes me great pain and makes my eyes water. There will be no tongue scraping for me. Owie.

    Scrape
    It doesn't really scrape, it just pulses water in a flat stream over the tongue with a small amount of pressure. Zero pain.
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    Trust me, Denny and Deb, it
    Trust me, Denny and Deb, it would hurt my tongue. My stupid tongue hurts all the time
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    Trust me, Denny and Deb, it
    Trust me, Denny and Deb, it would hurt my tongue. My stupid tongue hurts all the time
  • tommyodavey
    tommyodavey Member Posts: 726 Member

    Thanks, Ratface. I am
    Thanks, Ratface. I am always amazed that there is stuff still there after I spin brush and rinse. That there is always crud on the floss. I think because of the lack of saliva I just feel like crap is ways stuck on my teeth.

    Sweetblood,

    Yes, if you brush too hard you can make the gums recede. At least that's what my dentist told me.

    In my 30's I had gum disease and have had receding gums ever since. Flossing is the best defense followed by a proxy brush, then lightly go over your gums with a SonicCare or equivalent. The WaterPic is highly recommended so keep that up.

    Because I've taken such good care of my teeth the Oral Surgeon said I may not lose any. In the last 24 years I've maybe forgot to floss 3-4 times. If I lose them now it will really make me mad. So much work over so many years.

    Just don't brush too hard.

    Tommy
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228

    Sweetblood,

    Yes, if you brush too hard you can make the gums recede. At least that's what my dentist told me.

    In my 30's I had gum disease and have had receding gums ever since. Flossing is the best defense followed by a proxy brush, then lightly go over your gums with a SonicCare or equivalent. The WaterPic is highly recommended so keep that up.

    Because I've taken such good care of my teeth the Oral Surgeon said I may not lose any. In the last 24 years I've maybe forgot to floss 3-4 times. If I lose them now it will really make me mad. So much work over so many years.

    Just don't brush too hard.

    Tommy

    Thanks Tommy.

    Thanks Tommy.
  • dales2loud
    dales2loud Member Posts: 45

    Tongue scraper
    Just the thought of that causes me great pain and makes my eyes water. There will be no tongue scraping for me. Owie.

    Tongue scraper
    Yuck! Still scraping mine and I did it too hard once and it took awhile to heal, so be careful if you change your mind.
    Dale