Breast Cancer and Heart Disease

CypressCynthia
CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
My goal is never to scare anyone, but I think this article is important because there are many proactive things that we can do to prevent heart disease. It may be worth it for many of us to take this article to our oncologists and begin to ask for cardiology referrals. Unfortunately, there are not many cardiologists aware of this. So take the article there too :-).

I wish I had been on aspirin, a statin and a beta blocker BEFORE my heart attack. I doubt that I could have talked a cardiologist into doing it before, because I had no risk factors: no family history, not overweight, cholesterol ok, etc. My main risk factor was being a longterm breast cancer survivor who had endured "the works": mastectomy, chemo, rads, tamoxifen.

But maybe if some of you print out my post and this article, it could begin to prevent some heart disease and save lives.


Comorbid Conditions Threaten Breast Cancer Survivors

And here is another good resource from Duke University:

Breast Cancer and Cardiovascular Injury: Prevention and/or Treatment Approaches

Comments

  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
    P.S. Here are the addresses
    P.S. Here are the addresses just in case you can't open the links:

    http://www.onclive.com/web-exclusives/Comorbid-Conditions-Threaten-Breast-Cancer-Survivors

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/563432_6
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member

    P.S. Here are the addresses
    P.S. Here are the addresses just in case you can't open the links:

    http://www.onclive.com/web-exclusives/Comorbid-Conditions-Threaten-Breast-Cancer-Survivors

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/563432_6

    P.P.S.
    Just in case you are afraid of a beta blocker or think it is extreme (if your doctor does recommend it in your case), be aware that it may also help in our fight against breast cancer, a real win-win.

    But I am not saying we should all be on a beta blocker, please discuss your particlar treatments, history and physical condition with a physician.

    Notice the article also recommends exercise training, which, of course, is probably the first place we all should start :-). Like it or not.

    Beta-blockers tied to breast cancer survival


    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_112668.html
  • LoveBabyJesus
    LoveBabyJesus Member Posts: 1,679 Member
    Thanks!
    Thank you for sharing. I wonder if this would work for someone like me, I am 33 now.
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member

    Thanks!
    Thank you for sharing. I wonder if this would work for someone like me, I am 33 now.

    I'm not sure, but I would
    I'm not sure, but I would think that you are probably not high enough risk at your age to consider much besides a baby aspirin. However, I don't know your health, etc., so ask your doc!
  • Kylez
    Kylez Member Posts: 3,761 Member

    I'm not sure, but I would
    I'm not sure, but I would think that you are probably not high enough risk at your age to consider much besides a baby aspirin. However, I don't know your health, etc., so ask your doc!

    Thank you Cynthia!

    Thank you Cynthia!
  • missrenee
    missrenee Member Posts: 2,136 Member
    Kylez said:

    Thank you Cynthia!

    Thank you Cynthia!

    I so appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us
    I have been on a beta blocker for years and just recently (within the last 2) a statin drug. It would be great if these had a dual purpose of helping to prevent heart attack as well as another weapon against breast cancer.

    Thanks again,
    Hugs, Renee
  • Gabe N Abby Mom
    Gabe N Abby Mom Member Posts: 2,413
    Thank you for sharing
    Thank you for sharing this...I always find your posts informative and helpful, not scary at all. And I did read and print the article, and I will take it to my PCP on the next follow up about my BP.

    Hugs,

    Linda
  • Lynn Smith
    Lynn Smith Member Posts: 1,264 Member

    Thank you for sharing
    Thank you for sharing this...I always find your posts informative and helpful, not scary at all. And I did read and print the article, and I will take it to my PCP on the next follow up about my BP.

    Hugs,

    Linda

    Thank You
    Thank you for the information.I've been on a beta blocker for over 30 years.It would be nice to know if fights off this beast we all have.

    Lynn Smith
  • Double Whammy
    Double Whammy Member Posts: 2,832 Member

    Thank You
    Thank you for the information.I've been on a beta blocker for over 30 years.It would be nice to know if fights off this beast we all have.

    Lynn Smith

    I'm "Covered"
    I've been on a beta blocker, an ACE inhibitor, a statin, and baby aspirin for years for hypertension and high cholesterol. They did not keep me from developing cancers, but maybe they will help prevent a recurrence as well as guard my heart from chemo or radiation damage.

    Thanks, CC, for this information. I really hate the word "comorbidity".

    Suzanne
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member

    I'm "Covered"
    I've been on a beta blocker, an ACE inhibitor, a statin, and baby aspirin for years for hypertension and high cholesterol. They did not keep me from developing cancers, but maybe they will help prevent a recurrence as well as guard my heart from chemo or radiation damage.

    Thanks, CC, for this information. I really hate the word "comorbidity".

    Suzanne

    Me too. It definitely is
    Me too. It definitely is not a lay person's term--very formal. That's why I didn't put it in my header!
  • Ritzy
    Ritzy Member Posts: 4,381 Member

    Me too. It definitely is
    Me too. It definitely is not a lay person's term--very formal. That's why I didn't put it in my header!

    I appreciate the info and
    I appreciate the info and the links!


    Sue :)
  • laughs_a_lot
    laughs_a_lot Member Posts: 1,368 Member
    Beta blockers
    I just got on a beta blocker yesterday. I read in the articles below (sorry I could not get the links so I included the address of oncology stat below indicating where I got them) that beta blockers have been helpful in keeping triple negative bc from progressing. TNBC is aggresive and I figured I could use all the help I could get.

    I am cerian that my bc was a result of stress. As I understand it beta blockers stop or inhibit the stress response in the body. Since I felt my cancer started as a result of stress I figured this was a good answer for me.

    With oncology stat I was able to sign up for journal scans related to breast cancer and get a an abstract of articles related to bc to my e-mail on a weekly basis.


    Beta Blockers Linked to Improved Breast Cancer Survival


    ß2 Blockers May Inhibit Breast Cancer Progression

    OncologySTAT.com•
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member

    Beta blockers
    I just got on a beta blocker yesterday. I read in the articles below (sorry I could not get the links so I included the address of oncology stat below indicating where I got them) that beta blockers have been helpful in keeping triple negative bc from progressing. TNBC is aggresive and I figured I could use all the help I could get.

    I am cerian that my bc was a result of stress. As I understand it beta blockers stop or inhibit the stress response in the body. Since I felt my cancer started as a result of stress I figured this was a good answer for me.

    With oncology stat I was able to sign up for journal scans related to breast cancer and get a an abstract of articles related to bc to my e-mail on a weekly basis.


    Beta Blockers Linked to Improved Breast Cancer Survival


    ß2 Blockers May Inhibit Breast Cancer Progression

    OncologySTAT.com•

    Here is first article
    http://www.onclive.com/web-exclusives/Comorbid-Conditions-Threaten-Breast-Cancer-Survivors
    Comorbid Conditions Threaten Breast Cancer Survivors
    Author: Anita T. Shaffer

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Leading Causes of Death Among Breast Cancer Patients Ages ≥66 by Age at Diagnosis and by Stage of Disease, 1992-2000Breast cancer survivors age 66 and older are more likely to die of cardiovascular disease (CVD) than they are of the cancer itself, one indication of the significant role that comorbidities play in overall mortality, a new study indicates.

    CVD was the primary cause of death for 15.9% of the survivors, followed closely by breast cancer at 15.1%, according to researchers from the Colorado School of Public Health at the University of Colorado in Aurora whose findings were published in Breast Cancer Research.

    The study involved 63,566 women diagnosed with breast cancer between 1992 and 2000 whose histories were culled from the Surveillance, Epidemiology and End Results (SEER)-Medicare linked database. Of the group, 32,594 women (51.3%) had died through the end of 2005, when the study period ended.

    Investigators found that factors associated with dying from causes other than breast cancer included older age, more advanced tumor stage, and comorbidities; factors characteristic of the breast cancer deaths included advanced tumor stage and grade, estrogen-receptor negative status, and comorbidities. The analysis included 19 comorbidities.

    The data indicate that medical professionals should pay more attention to the risk of CVD and other comobidities among patients with breast cancer, the researchers said.

    “Patient management rightfully focuses on cancer after diagnosis, but consideration of other existing comorbid conditions should also be integrated into patient management and recovery plans,” wrote lead author Jennifer L. Patnaik, PhD, of the department of epidemiology. “Especially among older breast cancer survivors, risk management of factors associated with CVD can help improve overall survival.”

    Specifically, Patnaik noted the link between long-term cardiac toxicity and chemotherapy, and suggested the condition might be underdiagnosed and undertreated.

    The research team said limitations of the study include the validity of cause of death coding, missing pieces of information, and billing code practices. Additionally, more than 33,000 eligible women were excluded from the study because they were enrolled in a Medicare HMO and their files were not available.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Patnaik JL, Byers T, DiGuiseppi C, Dabelea D, Denberg TD. Cardiovascular disease competes with breast cancer as the leading cause of death for older females diagnosed with breast cancer: a retrospective cohort study [published online ahead of print June 20, 2011]. Breast Cancer Res. 2011;13(3):R64. doi:10.1186/bcr2901.
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member

    Here is first article
    http://www.onclive.com/web-exclusives/Comorbid-Conditions-Threaten-Breast-Cancer-Survivors
    Comorbid Conditions Threaten Breast Cancer Survivors
    Author: Anita T. Shaffer

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Leading Causes of Death Among Breast Cancer Patients Ages ≥66 by Age at Diagnosis and by Stage of Disease, 1992-2000Breast cancer survivors age 66 and older are more likely to die of cardiovascular disease (CVD) than they are of the cancer itself, one indication of the significant role that comorbidities play in overall mortality, a new study indicates.

    CVD was the primary cause of death for 15.9% of the survivors, followed closely by breast cancer at 15.1%, according to researchers from the Colorado School of Public Health at the University of Colorado in Aurora whose findings were published in Breast Cancer Research.

    The study involved 63,566 women diagnosed with breast cancer between 1992 and 2000 whose histories were culled from the Surveillance, Epidemiology and End Results (SEER)-Medicare linked database. Of the group, 32,594 women (51.3%) had died through the end of 2005, when the study period ended.

    Investigators found that factors associated with dying from causes other than breast cancer included older age, more advanced tumor stage, and comorbidities; factors characteristic of the breast cancer deaths included advanced tumor stage and grade, estrogen-receptor negative status, and comorbidities. The analysis included 19 comorbidities.

    The data indicate that medical professionals should pay more attention to the risk of CVD and other comobidities among patients with breast cancer, the researchers said.

    “Patient management rightfully focuses on cancer after diagnosis, but consideration of other existing comorbid conditions should also be integrated into patient management and recovery plans,” wrote lead author Jennifer L. Patnaik, PhD, of the department of epidemiology. “Especially among older breast cancer survivors, risk management of factors associated with CVD can help improve overall survival.”

    Specifically, Patnaik noted the link between long-term cardiac toxicity and chemotherapy, and suggested the condition might be underdiagnosed and undertreated.

    The research team said limitations of the study include the validity of cause of death coding, missing pieces of information, and billing code practices. Additionally, more than 33,000 eligible women were excluded from the study because they were enrolled in a Medicare HMO and their files were not available.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Patnaik JL, Byers T, DiGuiseppi C, Dabelea D, Denberg TD. Cardiovascular disease competes with breast cancer as the leading cause of death for older females diagnosed with breast cancer: a retrospective cohort study [published online ahead of print June 20, 2011]. Breast Cancer Res. 2011;13(3):R64. doi:10.1186/bcr2901.

    Duke Article
    Breast Cancer and Cardiovascular Injury: Prevention and/or Treatment Approaches

    Preventive and/or treatment strategies will be required to define and offset the acute and long-term clinical consequences of the "multiple hit." Unfortunately, it is not currently known whether treatment of risk factors modifies CVD (cardiovascular disease) incidence among women with breast cancer to the same extent as in general population. However, at least one clinical trial has examined the effects of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibition (ACEI) on preventing cardiac dysfunction among cancer patients. Based on their prior work, Cardinale et al.[37] randomized patients who experienced an increase in troponin I shortly after chemotherapy to receive an ACEI (enalapril) or usual care for 12 months. Results indicated a significant reduction in LV (left ventricular) function among usual care patients only.[37] In a retrospective study, Ewer et al.[38] reported that maximum-tolerated doses of ACEI and beta-blockers allowed therapy to be reinitiated among breast cancer patients who initially had treatment discontinued due to trastuzumab-induced heart failure. On the basis of these findings and our own clinical experience, treatment of risk factors consistent with the American Heart Asssociation guidelines for prevention of CVD in women[39] appears prudent. Effective strategies to preserve LV function are of major importance because therapy is withheld when LVEF (left ventricular ejection fraction) decreases <50% and not resumed until LVEF is ≥50%, which has obvious implications for clinical outcome of breast cancer patients.

    Recommendations for the treatment of major risk factors include optimal lifestyle behaviors in conjunction with pharmacotherapy, as required. Specifically, beta-blockers and/or ACEI, with the addition of other agents (e.g., thiazides), are recommended for the initial therapy of hypertension. Regarding hypercholesterolemia, the use of 3-hydroxy-3-methyl-glutaryl coenzyme A reductase inhibitors (statins) is recommended to achieve low-density lipoprotein cholesterol <100 mg/dl. The use of sulfonylurea or biguanide (metformin) is recommended for women with type II diabetes mellitus to achieve a glycosylated hemoglobin (HbA1c) <7%.[39] Of note, exercise training may be effective in this setting because of its demonstrated effects on cardiovascular reserve, individual risk factors, and overall reductions in CVD mortality.[40,41] Moreover, a recent meta-analysis[42] reported that exercise training resulted in a significant improvement in exercise capacity among women with early breast cancer while epidemiologic data suggested that greater physical activity after therapy was associated with decreased breast cancer-specific and all-cause mortality.[43] Only one study to date has examined the effects of exercise training on CVD risk factors among early breast cancer patients.[44]

    There is also a paucity of data examining any adverse or beneficial effects of recommended risk factor-modification strategies on cancer outcomes. However, several preclinical studies have demonstrated that lipophilic statins (e.g., simvastatin, fluvastatin), ACEI, and metformin have antineoplastic activity in several experimental models of breast carcinogenesis.[45–47] On the basis of these promising data, several clinical trials are underway to investigate the potential antitumor efficacy of these agents in breast cancer patients. As a cautionary note, all preclinical studies have examined the potential efficacy of CVD medications without concurrent cancer therapy. Thus, little is known about the potential interaction between these agents.

    Pharmacologic CVD medications as well as lifestyle approaches (e.g., exercise training) influence a wide spectrum of biological processes that may be particularly relevant for the antineoplastic effects of cancer therapies. For example, in addition to their vasodilatory effects, ACEI and exercise training are also potent antioxidants and actively scavenge ROS and lower oxidative stress.[48] Because radiotherapy and certain cancer chemotherapeutics rely on ROS-mediated deoxyribonucleic acid damage to induce apoptosis, one could speculate that these interventions might inhibit the efficacy of these therapies. On the other hand, reduction in ROS oxidative damage may confer protection against doxorubicin-induced cardiac toxicity.[48]

    Similarly, statins and exercise therapy increase the production, number, and function of circulating EPCs via vascular endothelial growth factor-dependent mechanisms.[49,50] Several reports have demonstrated that EPCs significantly contribute to tumor angiogenesis;[51] thus, one might speculate that interventions that induce EPC activity would augment tumor growth. Paradoxically, however, preclinical studies have reported that statins and exercise (without concurrent antitumor therapy) inhibit established breast tumor growth and metastatic progression.[52] Although strategies that improve overall global tumor blood flow may improve the delivery and efficacy of anticancer drugs in established breast tumors,[53] in the adjuvant setting where treatment is directed at micrometastases, the clinical relevance of these observations is unknown. Clearly, the use of any risk factor modification strategy during early breast cancer therapy needs to be rigorously evaluated using appropriate end points (e.g., cardiac and cardiovascular function, adverse events, cancer drug pharmacokinetics, and relapse-free survival).
  • VickiSam
    VickiSam Member Posts: 9,079 Member

    Duke Article
    Breast Cancer and Cardiovascular Injury: Prevention and/or Treatment Approaches

    Preventive and/or treatment strategies will be required to define and offset the acute and long-term clinical consequences of the "multiple hit." Unfortunately, it is not currently known whether treatment of risk factors modifies CVD (cardiovascular disease) incidence among women with breast cancer to the same extent as in general population. However, at least one clinical trial has examined the effects of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibition (ACEI) on preventing cardiac dysfunction among cancer patients. Based on their prior work, Cardinale et al.[37] randomized patients who experienced an increase in troponin I shortly after chemotherapy to receive an ACEI (enalapril) or usual care for 12 months. Results indicated a significant reduction in LV (left ventricular) function among usual care patients only.[37] In a retrospective study, Ewer et al.[38] reported that maximum-tolerated doses of ACEI and beta-blockers allowed therapy to be reinitiated among breast cancer patients who initially had treatment discontinued due to trastuzumab-induced heart failure. On the basis of these findings and our own clinical experience, treatment of risk factors consistent with the American Heart Asssociation guidelines for prevention of CVD in women[39] appears prudent. Effective strategies to preserve LV function are of major importance because therapy is withheld when LVEF (left ventricular ejection fraction) decreases <50% and not resumed until LVEF is ≥50%, which has obvious implications for clinical outcome of breast cancer patients.

    Recommendations for the treatment of major risk factors include optimal lifestyle behaviors in conjunction with pharmacotherapy, as required. Specifically, beta-blockers and/or ACEI, with the addition of other agents (e.g., thiazides), are recommended for the initial therapy of hypertension. Regarding hypercholesterolemia, the use of 3-hydroxy-3-methyl-glutaryl coenzyme A reductase inhibitors (statins) is recommended to achieve low-density lipoprotein cholesterol <100 mg/dl. The use of sulfonylurea or biguanide (metformin) is recommended for women with type II diabetes mellitus to achieve a glycosylated hemoglobin (HbA1c) <7%.[39] Of note, exercise training may be effective in this setting because of its demonstrated effects on cardiovascular reserve, individual risk factors, and overall reductions in CVD mortality.[40,41] Moreover, a recent meta-analysis[42] reported that exercise training resulted in a significant improvement in exercise capacity among women with early breast cancer while epidemiologic data suggested that greater physical activity after therapy was associated with decreased breast cancer-specific and all-cause mortality.[43] Only one study to date has examined the effects of exercise training on CVD risk factors among early breast cancer patients.[44]

    There is also a paucity of data examining any adverse or beneficial effects of recommended risk factor-modification strategies on cancer outcomes. However, several preclinical studies have demonstrated that lipophilic statins (e.g., simvastatin, fluvastatin), ACEI, and metformin have antineoplastic activity in several experimental models of breast carcinogenesis.[45–47] On the basis of these promising data, several clinical trials are underway to investigate the potential antitumor efficacy of these agents in breast cancer patients. As a cautionary note, all preclinical studies have examined the potential efficacy of CVD medications without concurrent cancer therapy. Thus, little is known about the potential interaction between these agents.

    Pharmacologic CVD medications as well as lifestyle approaches (e.g., exercise training) influence a wide spectrum of biological processes that may be particularly relevant for the antineoplastic effects of cancer therapies. For example, in addition to their vasodilatory effects, ACEI and exercise training are also potent antioxidants and actively scavenge ROS and lower oxidative stress.[48] Because radiotherapy and certain cancer chemotherapeutics rely on ROS-mediated deoxyribonucleic acid damage to induce apoptosis, one could speculate that these interventions might inhibit the efficacy of these therapies. On the other hand, reduction in ROS oxidative damage may confer protection against doxorubicin-induced cardiac toxicity.[48]

    Similarly, statins and exercise therapy increase the production, number, and function of circulating EPCs via vascular endothelial growth factor-dependent mechanisms.[49,50] Several reports have demonstrated that EPCs significantly contribute to tumor angiogenesis;[51] thus, one might speculate that interventions that induce EPC activity would augment tumor growth. Paradoxically, however, preclinical studies have reported that statins and exercise (without concurrent antitumor therapy) inhibit established breast tumor growth and metastatic progression.[52] Although strategies that improve overall global tumor blood flow may improve the delivery and efficacy of anticancer drugs in established breast tumors,[53] in the adjuvant setting where treatment is directed at micrometastases, the clinical relevance of these observations is unknown. Clearly, the use of any risk factor modification strategy during early breast cancer therapy needs to be rigorously evaluated using appropriate end points (e.g., cardiac and cardiovascular function, adverse events, cancer drug pharmacokinetics, and relapse-free survival).</p>

    First of all, Thank You C.C. for sharing such
    valuable and vital information for 'all' breast cancer WARRIORS in PINK, regardless our age range.

    My question .. why isn't this information be passed along during our quarterly, bi-annual or annual visits. Myself, I've had 2 check ups after my the completion of my chemo, surgeries etc .. just to check my markers. I've insisted on scans - have been told by Oncologist -- no need for them (are you kidding, me!!) -- No discussions regarding any health concerns -- prolonged side efforts from my TCH chemo -- nothing!

    Scared as Hellll with the lack of medical information being provided for post-chemo, radiation WARRIORS!

    Vicki Sam
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
    VickiSam said:

    First of all, Thank You C.C. for sharing such
    valuable and vital information for 'all' breast cancer WARRIORS in PINK, regardless our age range.

    My question .. why isn't this information be passed along during our quarterly, bi-annual or annual visits. Myself, I've had 2 check ups after my the completion of my chemo, surgeries etc .. just to check my markers. I've insisted on scans - have been told by Oncologist -- no need for them (are you kidding, me!!) -- No discussions regarding any health concerns -- prolonged side efforts from my TCH chemo -- nothing!

    Scared as Hellll with the lack of medical information being provided for post-chemo, radiation WARRIORS!

    Vicki Sam

    Unfortunately, cancer care
    Unfortunately, cancer care is not well coordinated. It would be nice to be able to visit a cancer center where they included psych care, cardiac care, palliative care, etc. Maybe if we squeak loud enough, maybe one day it will happen.
  • VickiSam
    VickiSam Member Posts: 9,079 Member

    Unfortunately, cancer care
    Unfortunately, cancer care is not well coordinated. It would be nice to be able to visit a cancer center where they included psych care, cardiac care, palliative care, etc. Maybe if we squeak loud enough, maybe one day it will happen.

    Very Well, stated
    C.C. Gathering information for tomorrow's visit with my Oncologist.

    Hugs my friend,

    VickiSam
  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
    VickiSam said:

    Very Well, stated
    C.C. Gathering information for tomorrow's visit with my Oncologist.

    Hugs my friend,

    VickiSam

    Bumping up.

    Bumping up.