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grmalou
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My husband has stage 4 inoperable colon cancer with mets to the liver.
Our oncologist hasn't heard of Essiac Tea. We're trying to find out if it will negatively impact chemo treatments. Anyone have any information they can share?

MrsJP
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I've heard alot of good things about this tea, not sure of the interaction with chemo.
Sorry, not much help. Try the net... and a naturopathic healer..they may have the wisdom you seek.

God Speed
JP

grmalou
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Thanks JP,

I've researched on the Net and books, but so far, not much info. Even our naturopath has no idea what Essiac does. Because it's so expensive to run clinical trials, no research exists, as far as I can find. In all my research, I've found nothing that describes any interaction (adverse or otherwise) with chemo.

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kristasplace
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It's supposed to be a good cancer fighter. I don't have it in my own regimen, but i also recommend you find a natruopath who knows about it. The way i look at it, if it's edible, it's not going to interfere with chemo. My doctors wouldn't let me take anything that claimed to be an antioxidant supplement, but they never said anything about eating blueberries or pomegranates which are HIGH antioxidants. The fact is, most doctors know very, very little about nutrition; particularly when dealing with disease.

I'm sure this isn't new information for you, but juicing is the best thing he can do for himself nutritionally, AND to feel better physically. I'm stage IV, and instead of doing chemo, i added juicing and supplementing to my diet, and eliminated everything i felt had contributed to my dis-ease. I've been NED for a year next month. Yay!

Hugs!
Krista

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pete43lost_at_sea
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http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlternativeMedicine/HerbsVitaminsandMinerals/essiac-tea

i took chinese herbal medicine in tea form on none chemo days.

welcome to our site, goodluck,
hugs,
pete

GaryinUK
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My partner is just about to start on ESSIAC tea, having had it recommended by 3 un-connecetd people in the space of 5 days.

It does not claim to cure, it claims to help manage symptoms experienced at stage 4, boost immune, help balance PH level which I think everyone agrees is important and help with general well being.

There is a 'agressive regimene' for those on pallatative care, it can also be used complimentary towards Chemotherapy.

There is a lot on the net about it, it got its name from a womand who gave it to her daughter I think, the name is CASSIE in reverse, all that does not matter though, its worth a go.

Be warned, you need to make it in large quantities and then store it in air free containers, the reccomend Kilner jars.

Not too expensive either,

Gary

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bspangler47
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Gary plz post on how it works. I would love to try it. I am no longer on chemo.

Thanks Barbara

GaryinUK
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Buy the Essaic Tea you make yourself, never head of an Essiac supplement, I noted that some tetst did not use the right make up of the herbs or the way it should be prepared so in a supplement tablet/capsuleyou have no idea of how it got to that composition.

We are making 4 litres, which would last a month at the regular does of about 2oz per day, but we intend to quickly build to 9ozs and then lower after a week or so.

Its like making tea over 24hrs, boil water, add the herbs and stir, leave to steep for at least 12hrs, re-heat, strain and leave to cool, we have bought 4x1 litre Kilner Jars, these need to be spotless and airtight.

Then you just drink the amount you need per day.

I know I have swapped from Litres to Ounces here, but the UK is in the EU (HOPEFULLY NOT FOR MUCH LONGER) and so we are used to using both measurements.

Pvt message me if you want any help or know anything more.

We are also doing MCP and that has boosted the energy level after just a few days.

Regards

Gary

MrsJP
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Gary
I've seen cassies tea in capsule form at our local nature store. I think its just as effective and easier to take.
Best Wishes
JP

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scouty
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after I stopped chemo. Be leary of copycats and back in 2004 when I drank it there were no pill versions.

Rene Cassie, a Canadian nurse, got the recipe from an old Indian Medicine Man back in the 1920s. She then gave the tea to anyone that wanted it especially people that had pretty dismal prognosis. Sloan-Kettering did a study on it in the 70's but didn't follow the directions on how to make it so obviously it wasn't as effective as they had hoped. DUH!!!!

It is a great detoxer and blood booster. Be sure to follow the directions! I drank it (2-4 oz) first thing in the AM and waited an hour before I ate or drank anything else. Then again an hour or so after lunch. My last shot was just before bed, always on an empty stomach.

It seems expensive but since you only drink 2 ounces or so at a time, a gallon goes a long way. Seems like one bottle of the powder made 2 gallons of tea.

Lisa P.

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You can order Essiac tea already in tea bag form online. There is also a capsule form of Essiac- I have it but don't know if it's supposed to be as good or not, but I already drink Pau d'Arco tea (look it up on google) and didn't want to add another tea. My onc is ok with it, but he tends to be more liberal than most oncologists on this. He didn't think it would be a problem to take during chemo, but the honest truth is I don't really think he knows anything about it- just usually goes along w/ what I want to do. What he DID say about this and all other supplements, is that minerals are fine to take during chemo infusion/5FU bag hookup days but to stop all other supplements 24 hrs before infusion and to not resume until 24 hrs after getting unhooked "just to be on the safe side".

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thingy45
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I just bought the botlle Essiac Extract Formula, in Canada it cost 33.94 dollars and you are suppose to take 2 to 4 teaspoons twice dayly. TAke one hour before meals or 2 to 3 hours after meals.
HOWEVER, reading the bottle it said NOT to take it if you have Arthritus or kidney or gastro-intestinal disorders. That made me think.I like to check with my docters first.
I had bought it years ago in leave form for a friend of mine that was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. She took it daily and it has helped her a lot, she lasted 3 years on it.
This was 19 years ago.
Marjan

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pete43lost_at_sea
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hi marjan,your doc is unlikely to go against manufactures warnings. i would contact them first, mrntion colorectal cancer and see what they say. interested in answers from doc and essiac tea inc.
hugs,
pete

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thingy45
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Hi Pete,
I am at my partners lakehouse, in the middle of nowhere.No internet LOL . I will not see my specialist until June 2nd. Will keep everyone posted.
hugs and Blessings,
Marjan

GaryinUK
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By the time you see your oncologist my partner will have been using Essiac tea for 2 weeks, it was recommended by several people at different times to us and so having read up on it we are going to give it a try.

What if your oncologist says no or offers no view? On here there is a lot of discussion about taking and not taking, I have not seen anything anywhere saying it will make things worse. so what have you got to lose?

I shall post how my partner gets on and we are going for the 'activity' dose to begin with.

He started MCP last week, bit of nausea and loose no. 2's, but agin we started at 15gms per day not the maintenance 5gms, on Saturday we celebrated our 5th Anniversary of Civil Partnership (been together 12years though) and he had his best day in 4months, he already has more energy, less pain, more appetite, even told my sisters to get out the kitchen as he wanted to do it because he felt so great.

These are the days I live for, seeing him live...and now emotionally I am signing off, the last 4 months have been hell.

Drink the tea, take MCP, do everything to Live.

Gary

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pete43lost_at_sea
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dear gary,

i agree, lets try everything but step by step and maybe not all at once.

well it was just the warning on the tea not to take it with bowel problems. i sound so conservative. now i imagine some tea manufactures will have a warning, maybe some do and some do not.

I have taken a few calculated risks so far here and there. after all we have or have had cancer.

I figured at least to ask for a please explain re the warning. thats all.
better safe than sorry. still many other here have used this with no issues.

this tea is NOT my cup of tea, but it maybe yours. i prefer chinese tea, the special kind which i make and brew each day.

pete

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EddieB
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I had colorectal cancer in 1999. I was never told what stage, but I did not have to take any further treatment, although I do have a colostomy now.
After my operation, I took Essiac Tea for several months. Have had NO reoccurence of cancer, and not sure that Essiac caused this. The tea does take several hours to brew, but has a pleasant taste.

I researched and bought several books on Essiac Tea, and from all that I read, it even helps a patient going through chemo. There are very many cases of cures by Essiac, which nurse Rene Caisse used back in the 1920-1940. The medical establishment fought her very much, but she lacked but 3 VOTES to get it approved in the Canadian Parliament to be a treatment for cancer everywhere.

She later worked with Dr. Brusch (who was President Kennedy's personal physican) to try and get it approved for cancer treatments in the US. Again, the medical establishment was too strongly against this. Dr. Brusch was a big believer in it, and he finally had bowel cancel. He signed an affidavit, and had it notarized, that he had bowel cancer, and used ONLY Essiac Tea, and IT CURED HIM!

There is a lot of info on the internet. Check it out for a much more information.
EddieB

GaryinUK
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EddieB

Good post, its a tea, people should not be fearful or ask an Oncologist, just do it if they want.

Gary

GaryinUK
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Hi all

Essiac Tea update for you

My partner started Essiac Tea last week, 2oz one, day 4oz next day, 5oz then 6oz, the dosage for people stage iv is recommended at 9oz.

The information on this tea does say, that the doseage depends on the individual, so what happened next....

His stomach started making the strangest noises on Friday, then on Sat and Sun he had 48hrs of Nausea, Vommitting and Stomach Cramps.

We beleive this was like a Detox, perhaps naievly that we had not reached the optimum dose so it would not happen so dramatically.

Now, other than tired, after no food for 2 days, he feels 'better', much less pain and 'heaviness' where he had felt it before.

During the 2 days of Detox he felt virtually no pain, took no pain medication.

Plan now is to start at 1oz and go up by 1oz every other day, probably staying at 4oz for a week and then back to a regular dose of 2oz.

Regards

Gary

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