Mar 08, 2011 - 12:45 am
(Marshall Tucker band reference)
A friend of mine who is an atheist and former agnostic (she is losing intelligence as she ages, I suspect, but that is merely a personal opinion) came into this board to have a look, as she got wind of some of the supposed hullabaloo.
She said she found it all amusing and added that there was no debate at all.
I was moderately offended, to be honest, because I feel that the majority of exchange on this board is certainly not 'amusing' and is, for me, the most enjoyable of exchanges, flame to ignite the muse of thought, as it were, and occasionally the link to other avenues of thought.
Then I realized that she had the same myopic perspective that other 'believers' have (and, yes, she is a believer: she believes there is no deity): her mind is set in concrete.
While I wonder how anyone can expect to learn anything with such a mindset, still, I understand. There is faith in both theism AND atheism. I can see and read the vehemence from both sides, even if I consider that one side of that 'debate' has a more legitimate leg to stand on (there ARE imaginary numbers, irrational numbers, but I am not aware of non-numbers, and I will leave it at that).
I am bemused by the idea of atheists, though, finding theists/deists to be ignorant, in any event. Atheists haven't a leg to stand on, not even the leg of faith, of irrational belief, of signs, of omens, of the notion, simply, that there is something out there that may be beyond our ken. I can understand true believers (while understanding the contempt someone else recently posted about the posers who are just out for money). I cannot understand the smug certainty of those who know there is no god. And I find the smugness, the holier-than-thou attitude (how ironic) to be paradoxical and even moronic. Especially coming from people who allegedly have thought these things through.
That rant aside, she did mention that there was no debate and in that regard she is correct to some degree, largely because those who believe believe fervently and those who believe not believe not just as fervently. There is no room for debate.
I think if you look through this board you will find that most of the so-called debate is among those of us who are unknowing, seeking, not looking for answers necessarily, but looking, nonetheless. Perhaps the tolerant, the curious.
I rarely see evil intent in here, even from those I disagree with. Maybe we have too much time on our hands, and some of us certainly seem to have agendas, but I find this board the most interesting of all of them. Of course: It is not about cancer. It is about living and dying. And I find that intriguing as I always have. It is about belief and doubt, and I find those not amusing subjects but the subjects that should be of greatest concern to all of us.
You believe. I doubt. Let's discuss it.