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Lol I now understand why Phil hangs here more then he does on the colon board. I love everyones input and different posts, so I hope you all dont mind my posts.
Ok apologise if this question has been asked before, do you believe there is an afterlife or not?
I believe in heaven and hell too, but probably more so after my mum died from breast cancer. Now just briefly before I knew I had cancer I was ill and dreaming of my mum a lot, she was showing me that my dad was dating again. Mention to brother and sister they just laughed as did my dad. Mum kept coming to me over my dad, with similar dreams. I would tell my partner at the time and he put it down to grief. Cut a long story short my father was interested in getting remarried, first woman he was with it didn't work out. Then he got secretly married abroad, well my brother and sister thought I was in cohoots with my dad. Anyhow I reminded them that I had asked questions over the months and my dad just kept denying things. Also after this my partner would say that he wished my mum would stop coming to me. I had this story published in a uk magazine as well. Was my mum really communicating with me from the otherside or was it just my subconcious? My mum and I were always close

Anyhow has anyone had anything similar with loved ones who have passed, or believe in the afterlife in general?

Hugs
Sonia

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I can't go into detail but I asked my sister-in-law why I wasn't receiving help. She had passed over about 5 years before. I told her if she could to help me. That night I dreamed she came to me and said, You have to do it by yourself. Then a big voice said, You have to do it by yourself.

I was pretty upset over this (at first I thought the message was for everyone and not just me) and told God it wasn't right and we were supposed to help others. I did receive help after all. I think now that there are some trials we just have to do ourself and others we get help. Don't ask me why. It's a mystery.

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I had a near death experiece a couple of times during my bone marrow transplant days in isolation 20 plus years ago. For me there is DEFINITELY a God because I heard Him and received a healing from Him and the voice told me it would never be back and 23 years later it hasn't come back. I have never had to worry about recurrances because of this experience. That in itself is a huge blessing.

I for one think that this is all a huge school for the soul down here on this nutty planet and with each life we live we have specific goals to reach to move our souls into higher planes. So in that way I guess that is believing in the after life. Is there a place where we go like a Heavan, hmmm , doesn't sound right to me but again who knows. What happens when the soul reaches full maturity? Not a clue.

This idea of mine of the earth being like a life school for our souls has helped me, especially with the question of why one person survives cancer and another does not. I just think that their missions here, this time, are just not completed yet so they live on or the mission was completed and they move to the next level. It works for me.

Hope you are doing well.

Blessings,

Bluerose

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That makes sense to me. I don't believe in hell just as I don't believe in the devil. Although I can act like a devil at times! I do believe we have souls. Well said.

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Thanks, like I said the therory makes sense to me.

I think if there is good unfortunately there is evil too, is it an actual entity in itself, hmmm, don't know. However if I know for sure there is a God then?????

It's a head scratcher subject alright. lol

Hope you are doing well.

Blessings,

Bluerose

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I've thought at times that we are sent back to learn things before we move on to another level as you say. There are so many beliefs out there that have much in common at the core. Yet if one accepts the Christian God, then something like returning to another life (like reincarnation) would go against what they teach or am I mistaken?

I know that many Catholics have left the church because of disagreement over things like contraception. Then again, many Catholics still go for communion when the Pope says that it's more of an all or nothing situation. I think they call it being a Smorgasboard Catholic. They pick and choose what they wish to believe.

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I am not the one to ask when it comes to the bible. Couldn't recite one verse from it if my life depended on it. I only talk about things that I have personally experienced, despite what has been written, if it happened to me then I believe it. So with my experiences I have had so far it has led me to my beliefs today. It all just makes the most sense to me and I believe greatly in letting messages (ideas, feelings etc) come through. I think they are truly messages.

Anywho, don't know if that satisfies your question and posting but dats da best I can do for now. If I have any other near death experiences I will let you know. lol.

Hugs,

Bluerose

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I think that how you approach your spirituality makes a lot sense to me. It's a personal thing where there are so many beliefs that have come about since mankind first questioned their existence and first realized that they were mortal. I do not think that many people want to think that this is it and that there isn't a great reward afterwards or that we will never see those we loved while on earth.
So taking bits and pieces of various beliefs is great (in my opinion) because you can get the best experiences and use them to help yourself get through (this) life.

How's that saying go?
"If there's an afterlife I'll tap you on the shoulder once. If not, I'll tap twice"

Hugsx2
-phil
PS: is that one of your roses?

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I like everyone else down here on this crazy planet have no definitive answers but like I said before my spirituality works for me.

Nope that is not a rose of mine, a picture I found on Google Image. Actually it is impossible to create a blue rose in nature although many have tried. The best they get that they call a 'blue' rose is usually more of a purple or blacker rose.

I actually chose the name Bluerose a long time ago after the central character in the Tennesse Williams play 'The Glass Menagerie'. Do you know the play? I even created a glass menagerie like Laura, the key character had, lol. It's a great play if you haven't read it.

Hugs x3

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"Spirituality can refer to an ultimate reality or transcendent dimension of the world; an inner path enabling a person to discover the essence of his or her being, or the “deepest values and meanings by which people live.” ..."
I used this simple dictionary that is on the internet to see how it defined "Spirituality" and I really like how they define it. It really is something that is unique to each of us.

That's interesting about the Blue Rose, they have so many colors but blue evades them. I've noticed that many roses are not that fragrant, I guess they are bred for color and/or longevity. My Mom used to have this red rose bush that would only have 2-3 roses on it a season but I have never smelled any other rose as fragrant as that one was.

I've heard of Tennessee Williams and The Glass Menagerie but I'm really not familiar with the story. I know A Streetcar Named Desire better. "Stella...STELLA..."
Hugs (infinity symbol)
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Some people would call that symbol a lazy 8. hehe!

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for roses I mean, referring to your comment about your Mother's rosebush. All the fragrance was put into the 2 roses instead of being spread amongst many so that's probably why the smell was so powerful.

The Glass Menagerie was made into movies, twice I think, and of course it is a stage play too. It's a simple story with alot of life messages in it, love that play. I actually have a glass menagerie like Laura, the lead character had, not sure if I mentioned that but all my animals are very tiny and totally clear, I think hers were all colors. Just love the whole idea of the play. I have had blueroses both dyed and tinted through dye in water over the years and when they do them right in the water dye they come out so pretty. They take white roses and leave them in blue tinted water (a special flower dye) and over a couple of days the roses suck up the color and turn them blue. So pretty.

Well that was probably way more than you needed to know but you know me, get me on a roll and I'm off to the races. lol.

Take care kid,

Bluerose

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Hi Sonia

I too believe one of the best things about this place it being able to express ourselves with out the fear of being of being railed on, after all we are all different and none of died yet and came back to tell the story.

On your question of the after life, the Bible tells only the story of one man who died and came back to life 3 days later and that was (Lazarus) and he did not say anything of being in Hell or Heaven. Then it goes on to tell that when Jesus arose Sunday Morning that many of the graves were open. What does it all mean, I don’t know and I think a lot of our Leaders don’t know either. This is a very good subject to be studied if you are a Christian and want to know what the Bible teaches about the subject.

Take care
Hondo

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Great subject. I believe, without a doubt, in an afterlife. Exactly what it is, who knows, but there is something else. There have been countless occurances in my family's history that convinced all of us there is an afterlife. One such incident was in the 1970s, about a week after my Grandfather (my mom's dad)passed away, at age 75. My Mom and her sister were visiting my Grandmother, sitting in the livingroom talking when the phone rang. These were the old, black, "Ma Bell" phones with the actual bell inside. The phone didn't actually ring but more like the bell rang like a half ring. My Grandmother picked up the receiver and said hello. My Mom says they looked over at her and her face went white and she hung up the receiver. They asked what was the matter and she said "that was your father". They asked what she meant and she said the voice on the phone was her deceased husband of fifty four years and he said "Marie, are you still there"? Now, she was married and lived with him for many, many years and she knew his voice like her own. They all sat there unable to talk for a couple minutes then gradually discussed it. My Gradmother said that she and my Grandfather had once talked about whether they would want to go on if either died. My Grandmother lived nearly 20 years more and died at the age of 91. She was at peace knowing her husband was waiting for her. No one can explain things like that but it's too bad we didn't have caller ID back then.....
Take care, Chris

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Interesting to think about it isn't it? I totally believe things like that can happen, a loved one reaching back to someone that he once had a strong bond with. What a great feeling that must have given your Mom and the whole family.

Bluerose

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I never gave it much thought in the past but have thought of it in the past several months and I do believe there is an afterlife. So many caregivers have written about their loved ones dying and "journeying" between two worlds a few days or hours before death.

Some passed it off as halicunations, most did not. Several blogs I have read talk about their loved ones waking up and talking to their mom, dad, friends, etc. who have passed. There has to be something to it.

Take care - Tina

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I do believe that there could be an existence after this life. I think I know more of what it's NOT that what it IS but I think that our energy continues on in some form.
Here is an interview with Karen Armstrong, a well noted theologian who offers some interesting ideas based on beliefs of past civilizations.
If you have an open mind you may enjoy it. If you have a closed mind it might open it up.

I personally have not had an afterlife experience but I do have a good friend who had a near-death experience which I believe he experienced.

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I would just like to get to get some opinions and do not intend to start dissension on the board. I had stated on an earlier post that I am not a religious person. I believe that there is some sort of higher power that controls our fate. I'm just not sure what it is. I do not share the belief of a Heaven or Hell after death. There is a group of Primitive Baptists in the Appalachians known as No-Hellers. I guess I believe somewhat like that. I think that this is Hell here on earth. Supposedly, you are judged here & now, not after you die. This theory seems pretty accurate to me and I think some of you with cancer might agree with all the hell you have gone through.

I guess I wonder what horrible sins we may have unknowingly commited to warrant our current situatuion or that of our loved ones. Maybe this is sort of a "Why me, God" thing?

Again, I do not wish to attack anyone's beliefs or values, I would just like to know what other people think.

Best Wishes,

Wolfen

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Graci,
Thank you for your reply. I so agree with you about wars in the name of God and destruction of our planet. Every time we drive into the mountains, more forests have been destroyed in the name of industry and new unnecessary homes have been built encroaching more and more on our desert and wildlife. Progress for some, I guess.
After I made my post about my spiritual feelings, I felt kind of guilty because I really think that this is supposed to be a place where those who have been helped by a higher power can discuss it and support each other. I once believed in a benevolent God and I guess the main thing that changed my feeling is that at the very minute my father died, I was standing outside the hospital praying to God for him to be alright. That was 35 years ago. Ten years ago,my mother had a devastating stroke and I watched her die a slow death for six years. Over the years, I have prayed, cried, and pleaded with God for help in many situations, all to no avail. I guess I am just prayed out. But I also know that God does answer prayers for some. So in the hope that he has not forsaken my precious daughter, I hope the prayers of those many people will help.
I will not express my particular belief on here again, because I certainly do not question others beliefs, nor wish to post something that would be looked upon unfavorably.

Best wishes to all,

Wolfen

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Some posts seem to be open for discussion and others are not. I think if someone is asking for prayers than that is what should be given, not a debate or discussion on theology. They just want people to pray for them or a loved one. Then there are other posts that ask a question like this one does, "The afterlife, does it exist?" which by it's title would lead one to believe that discussion is asked for and encouraged.

I respect many of the Native American beliefs since they showed so much respect for Mother Earth. All that we get comes from her yet we continue to destroy her for our own selfish reasons. As time showed us over and over again, it's not nice to mess with Mother Nature. She will shake like a wet dog and knock us all off of her and then she'll start again. I couldn't agree more with the war and destruction comments but I think that those are caused because people have a very hard time walking in other people's shoes. Plus greed comes into play just as it does with Earth's destruction.

My opinion on what you post is that if you have something that is within the range of topics for the forum then post away. How else do people learn if we can only think one way? It also wouldn't hurt if we all try to remember The Golden Rule a bit...
-phil

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Hi Wolfen,
I kind of feel the same way you do. When my mom was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in 1989, I prayed so hard that she would be okay. Well, she died 2 months later. My dad also had cancer and I prayed "please don't let him die". And he died in 1990. And now last year in January, my husband was diagnosed with lung cancer. It was the shock of our life cause he didn't have any symptoms other than a back ache. Well, he died in March. So have a hard time believing that my prayers are heard. I did lose faith after my parents both died. And when Tom (my hubby) got sick, I prayed and promised that if he was cured that I would go back to church. Well, that didn't happen, and to this day I'm mad at God. Probably stupid, but just how I feel. There are so many rotten people on this earth & they keep living, but all the good ones are taken way too soon. Hope everyone doesn't think I'm bad for feeling this way, but I just feel that my prayers are never answered. By the way, I was raised a Catholic. 'Carole"

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If you know someone who knows Transcendental Meditation ask them to teach it to you. It's easy, only takes a minute. That is how I astro projected once, without even trying to do it, floated right up and out of my body - looked down on myself meditating. Bit of a shock that was. Even if you don't go out of body you will feel like you had a nice long nap after only 20 minutes of meditation. That's got to be helpful all on its own.

Take care.

Bluerose

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personally I believe in reincarnation until there is no longer a need to come back into this existence - one has reached full buddhahood, that is enlightenment or can stand naked (without succumbing to ego) in the presence of God. Not sure what happens after that.

Reincarnation sits true for me perhaps because I can't imagine having only one life. And then when my daughter was born, I felt I already knew her, strange, she felt and still does at times feel like my sister. Not only that, several times in West Africa (Mali, Burkina and Niger) I met people that I had felt I had known for years and they felt the same way about me. It was like we had a long history together and we had only just met. And I had an old man in Mali ask me why I chose to come back as a 'toubabou' (white person). Okay these are little incidents that prove nothing and perhaps I use them to support my own idea/beliefs in reincarnation.

What I also feel, is that a friend of mine who died of breast cancer 6 years ago is hear with me, and an old friend who died last year of stomach cancer has never left. I really feel their support. I could be confusing this with something else. I don't know. We never really know do we?

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Hi, Just a little note to let you know that I believe even BEFORE I read this new book from a child. It is in Costco or on line at heavenisforreal.com The book Heaven is for real is told about a family.

I loved it. I am going to share it with someone special, dont know who yet but, husband is going to City of Hope here in So Cal. So, we will see.

All My Best,

Cherie

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I just heard about this book and I went to the library to check it out.

The story is about a four-year old boy (Colton) who had emergency surgery, left his body, went to heaven and returned to his body. Colton said he met his miscarried sister, whom no one had told him about, and his great grandfather who died 30 years before Colton was born, then shared impossible-to-know details about each.

He describes the horse that only Jesus could ride, about how “reaaally big” God and his chair are, and how the Holy Spirit “shoots down power” from heaven to help us.

The local library owns over 100 copies of the book and I am the 553 person on the reserve list.

I have to be patient...and stay alive so I can read this book. Hahahaha!

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Hi

I had no preconceived notions about what happens when we move on from this life. After my husband's passing in December 09 I thought about it a little but figured he'd moved on with the next part of his journey. Over the last year I have come to realise that there is existence (perhaps not life but definitely existence) after death.
I remember one evening last May when I was bone weary and worried I would not hear my little one (3 at the time) if she got up during the night. I said out loud to hubby
"Do me a favour and look after them tonight." and then crashed. It turns out that his existence heard my cry for help. Since then every evening once the lights are out, you can hear someone turning off lights and walking the corridor between the girls' rooms.
I have also felt him in the car next to me. The first few nights were scary as hell but now its sort of comforting to know something watches over us. I still dont quite understand it but I guess not everything fits in a box?

sal314
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I also have a pretty cool story about how God's word (from the bible) was affirmed to me personally.

My father passed away 2 weeks ago today from esophageal cancer. While I was with him all night in ICU on the night he was rushed to the ER, I was sitting next to him in a chair. He was pretty much non-responsive. I sat quietly, eyes closed and just prayed like crazy. I asked the Lord to reveal to my dad how much He loved him, to let him know it would be OK and safe to trust in Him and take His hand. Then God kept putting a verse in my head (mind you, I'm terrible with memorization of scripture, and didn't know what verse it was specifically, but knew it was in the bible somewhere)about the mansion with many rooms God has prepared for those that know and love him.

Well, I kept praying that my dad would know he has a place with God and that he would be OK. No sooner did I finish praying that to God in quiet, did my dad sit up in his bed, open his eyes and say with a very strong voice "Wow. That was so strange. There were so many rooms." He then laid back down and closed his eyes and didn't do much of anything for several hours. Needless to say, I about fell out of my chair. To make sure I wasn't dreaming about what had just happened, I looked up at the clock on the wall to sear that moment in time into my brain. Then my very literally mother, who was sitting on the other side of my dad, said to him "yes, Roger, you are in a room. Remember? We're here at the hospital and if you go out into the hallway (she then points to the hallway) you will see a whole row of rooms. But you are in just one." LOL. That sealed it for me. He really did say what I thought he did! :)

What a gift God gave me!. It was like (no, He WAS) telling me "Sally, I hear your prayers for your dad. I'm working really hard at revealing myself to him. I'm knocking on his hearts door and will not give up on him and neither should you." After I thanked God for that I had a peace wash over me like nothing I've every experience before. I knew my dad was with God!

And of course, I had to find the verse in the bible that talked about this. It's found in John 14:1-3 where Jesus is comforting his disciples. It says "Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God, trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going."

So...God for me isn't just some mystic concept. He is real. He is with me. And He makes Himself known:)

Blessings,
Sally

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In asking the question "The afterlife, does it exist?", you draw on my fundamental, spiritual belief about why we are here in the first place. I describe what I believe without any need for others to hold similar views, nor to do I invite - or want - debate about why I believe them. They are inside me.

I believe in life after death. Always have. For me, we are spiritual beings having taken on a physical form in order to learn from our experiences, happy as well as sad. I believe in reincarnation, and that in between each lifetime there is a spiritual review of all that we have learned, and what is most important to learn next. I believe we also chose the people with whom we will learn those lessons in this lifetime, the joys as well as the tragedies. In that respect, I don't have a morality as such. What is 'right' or 'wrong', 'good' or 'bad' are all concepts based on subjective experience, not on spiritual truths. That is not to say that hurting someone is acceptable, or that we don't experience pain as terrible. To hurt someone on purpose directly goes against my fundamental belief - that we are all connected. It is only in ignorance of that that we think we can get away with hurting each other without consequence for ourselves - if not in this lifetime, then in another. How individual experiences help us to achieve awareness of our connectedness cannot always be understood (at least not in the half light in which resides our physical form) but I do believe it to be true.
In the end, I believe that the sum of all our lessons from all of our lifetimes goes to helping us not only to believe in our connectedness, but to experience that fully. To experience fully our connectedness is, for me, to experience what might be called God.

AussieMaddie

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I think the key reason I am so sure that there is an afterlife is because I personally experienced a healing and after that you can't help but know that there is indeed a higher power and that we are indeed being taken care of, sometimes not in the way we would life but I really do believe that there is a Bigger Plan.

I think that when a person actually is touched by a higher power in one way or another, and KNOWS IT, because trust me when it happens to you no matter in what form - you will KNOW IT. It's a feeling like you have never felt before, never. You just KNOW.

I wish I could share that feeling with everyone. This is the reason though that I feel so sure, I experienced part of it personally.

I wish the same for you all.

Blessings,

Bluerose

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Your story is amazing and you are one of many who have experienced it. I know God is real and I know what Jesus did for me personally. That assurance and peace is there for everyone!

Hugs,

Sylvia

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Hi Bluerose,

I have also experienced healing of the kind you describe and it is indeed beautiful :)

xxx

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Share your experience, I would like to hear of another one like the one I had. For me that sense of 'knowing' was like one I had evern 'known' before. It was so powerful. Would love to hear about yours.

Bluerose

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Hi Bluerose,

I haven't been able to reply to your question till now. Even now, it is hard to do because I think what you and I have experienced has been, perhaps necessarily, different in that the experience of something larger than ourselves is, for each of us, such a very unique experience.

My experience of healing is not a one-off thing. It is something that has been close to me for very many years. And I have never associated it with the presence of "God". You see, I don't believe in God except as a state of Godhood, to which we as spiritual beings aspire. That state would come about when we all truly experience ourselves as one whole and not separate people. I believe that all of our experience leads us in one way or another toward that goal, that the body is just the (present) vehicle for learning the lessons to accomplish that goal.

When I speak of healing from a higher power, it is for me the experience of being brought out of a state of pain or anguish by becoming aware of something that transcends that, something that lifts me into a more beautiful state of feeling. It is always spiritual, and usually it is the form of insight which arrives intuitively or from within. Never from without. I think that's the difference between my experience of healing and that of many who describe 'spiritual healing'.

For me, the strongest form of spiritual healing occurs when I get in touch with what is already inside me, but at a higher level. I believe we all have a "higher self" - that part of oneself which is most closely attuned to Godhood (as I have described). It is that part which needs no belief or understanding to experience ourselves as something more than just our body. And it is that part which can communicate with other spiritual beings, more evolved than ourselves, not in body themselves, who can help us in our pain. I refer to those other spiritual beings as my 'helpers' or my 'spiritual guides'.

My experience of healing can look different at different times.

I was walking down a nearby street feeling very down. Thought I could not feel worse. Then, in an instant, without any reason for it happening, I knew that a spiritual guide was present with me, pulling up my feeling and giving me an insight that said "That's not true. This is true" and in that moment, I knew that everything was allright. No reason. Nothing heard or spoken. Just a feeling of the presence of a spiritual guide.

On another occasion, I sought the service of a spiritual counsellor - with the specified direction that the counsellor provide for me not the understanding that *she* had but instead the space I needed to find my own, someone who also believed in spiritual guides and their ability to bring understanding and healing. Hard to find someone able and willing to do that. She needed not only to sense my guides but to trust them as well. I found such a person, and the work we did together was by far some of the most healing work I've ever done.

There have been too many moments to count when I have experienced the presence of my spiritual guides - guarding me, uplifting me, freeing me of emotional pain. Of physical pain, I cannot speak very much. I've experienced very little in my life. Even since having cancer, I've had very few side-effects. It is the mental disturbance that remains for me the most painful part of my experience. Always has been.

Healing for me now wouldn't require the healing of cancer, but the healing of my relationship to myself and to others. Being free of cancer wouldn't give that to me. Part of my spiritual belief is that we don't die before it's our chosen time to die (chosen before we were born). It also includes the belief that challenges exist to help us learn something. Physical illness and emotional pain both provide such challenges. I definitely don't believe in a judgemental "God". I don't believe in a God to start with, no-one sitting in judgement of us and no punishment metred out in the form of illness of any kind.

I believe that there is an experience of love that transcends where we are in this moment. I believe that we can all access it when we are in touch with our own higher self. It is that experience of a higher love that is the experience of healing for me. It is also why it is never very far away.

It is certainly true that I may not be able to access that healing when I consciously most want to - typically when I'm coming from a position of identifying with pain or lack as I strive to achieve it. The only way to access such healing is to let go, or have it occur spontaneously - despite yourself. You have to believe that such love exists, then you have to get out of your own way.

It was hard to say such things because it is such a personal experience. My belief and my experience of such healing does not imply any judgement on anyone who doesn't share it with me. Neither can anyone else's experience discount mine. We must all of us live true to ourselves.

Yes, my experience of healing is, like yours, exquisite, transcendent and real :)

AussieMaddie

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First let me thnk you for sharing your experiences and feelings and beliefs. I have always felt it's so important to share what we have learned not only in the cancer journey but throughout our lives, what's the point if we don't share what we have learned? I believe that the soul grows with each 'incarnation' of whatever you wish to call it and earth is simply one such 'school' for the developement of the soul.

I do believe that there is a God but each of us is indeed part of the whole and how that works, people wiser than me are still struggling with all of that of course. I just have this KNOWING and I have zero idea why that is.

You said "The only way to access such healing is to let go, or have it occur spontaneously - despite yourself. You have to believe that such love exists, then you have to get out of your own way.". That is so true. When I had the one on one with God in the healing it came on spontaneously and I was totally open and truly believed in Him. If I had known of healings and was asking for a healing proper I think I would have 'been in my own way' and it wouldn't have happened. Too structured.

I might have not explained myself correctly in my posting(s) but I have encountered this power from the inside too. It was a kind of telepathy is the best way I can explain it. It answered questions I was asking as the healing was happening but I was only asking them in my mind, not outloud. For instance I said 'what the heck is happening here?' when the line of heat was descending down my body, and right after I asked that question a 'voice' said 'this is a healing and it's from God'. The message infered it was God who was speaking but it didn't say so plain out. But I knew. It also said 'And it won't be back'. Meaning the cancer. That's all I heard. That was quite enough.

An amazing peace came over me and later I realized that even with something as totally awesome as it was that was happening to me I was never afraid. Freaked out a little when I first felt the line of heat but then I just kind of surrendered to it just knowing it wouldn't hurt me and that it was going to help me. But it did come from within.

I don't believe there is a God that sits up there on His throne, rather I think that God lives within all of us - each a small part of the whole but needing to be made worthy of such a position to the whole. Hence the long journey to reach nirvana.

Thank you for all of your insights and your sharing of your experiences. I'm sure that it will open people's minds to possibilities and others to realize that they are not alone in having spiritual experiences.

Take good care Maddie.

Bluerose

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AussieMaddie
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Few replies have touched me so much

Will try to copy a photo that you might like here .. here's hoping that it works:

It seems to have. I uploaded it to my "Expressions" page under my profile page. Click on my avatar alongside this then click on "Expessions. Then, if you click on the photo itself, you will see it in larger format.

Bluerose, you're one of the people that makes these forums so special for me, especialy as you reconnect me constantly with what drives me, what gives me my greates strenth.

There are not enough thank yous for that xxxooooo

(Having recenty been keeping "normal" hours, I've got back into staying up all night. Will go to bed now and hope to slep in. Either way, I'll catch up on rest.

Goodnight xxxx

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bluerose
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Thank you for your kind words and I am so glad that you find strength in the postings and in this site. I have always said that you just never know when a kind word or soemthing you talk about will help others so much and you just thought of it as any other remark when you originally wrote it. I love when that happens. Words are indeed powerful as are shared experiences. Funny thing is that before I checked in with the site this morning I wasn't feeling well at all but felt I should check the site as it had been down and found your posting here. I read it and was touched with what you said to me and you know what? It gave me energy and I felt totally better and now am not dreading having to go out on a necessary errand this morning. Thank you for that. This site is magic sometimes I feel, things like this happen all the time on here, people sharing and people who need it see the messages and it gives them hope and strenght. I don't know how many times I have gone into chat too, don't go in there nearly as much as I used to so it makes it even more unreal when I do enter there always seems to be a reason why I do and others tell me the same thing too. Always someone who has come in, often for the first time, who needs to hear a certain message and there is usually something in what is said that does the trick and they say so. Amazing place this is, very special. So thank you for that too.

I hope you got the sleep you need and look forward to more of your postings as well, talk about inspirational - you can really write there Missy. lol.

Thanks also for the picture of the dogs, so sweet. I emailed a copy of it to a lifelong friend who has a dog just like the border collie in your photo, she will enjoy that, I added the tag you had on it as well.

Have a great day and talk with you soon.

Hugs,

Bluerose

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(((( hugs ))))

:)

AussieMaddie

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bluerose
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Why is it that I can't read any of Mariam's posts? They just come out with an 'x' in the space where there is a subject and the posting. Why is that, anyone know?

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I assumed she changed her mind about whatever she had posted and removed it. Maybe she didn't have the option to delete the post.

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bluerose
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I have just never seen it appear that way but your explanation makes total sense, that must be it. Thanks.

Bluerose

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