Great Advice for people with No Insurance

connieprice1
connieprice1 Member Posts: 300 Member
edited March 2014 in Head and Neck Cancer #1
My wife just got results from her biopsy today. She has stage IV tongue cancer. My question is we no longer have insurance and I was wondering if anyone might know if their is anyway she can get help for this condition. Her doctor told us to try to get her on medicaid but I am afraid this could take too long because her cancer has already spread to the lymph nodes. I really feel bad about not having insurance but we have been behind on our bills since 2008 when the recession started and my business went south. A REALLY WORRIED HUSBAND

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  • Glenna M
    Glenna M Member Posts: 1,576
    Medicaid
    I was in the same position, was laid off and had no insurance when I was first diagnosed. Check with the hospital or cancer center where your wife will be receiving her treatment to see if they have a financial assistance department. The hospital where I received my treatment had their Medicaid specialist at the financial assistance dept contact me and she did all the work for me, I was approved within a couple of weeks and they paid some of my medical bills retroactive. If they do not have this assistance then go to your local Health and Human Services and they will tell you everything you will need to do to qualify for assistance. Please don't put this off, it is unfortunate that we find ourselves in this position but this is one of the things cancer does to people. I hated to ask for help as I had always worked and had always had my own insurance but when disaster strikes we are forced to ask for help.

    Please check into this today, once you supply them with all the necessary paperwork you could be approved within a couple of weeks.

    My best to you and your wife. Please post again so we know how you both are doing. We are here to help you in anyway we can.

    Stay strong,
    Glenna
  • Jimbo55
    Jimbo55 Member Posts: 590 Member
    Another Option
    Hi and welcome to the site. Sorry that you are here. One more option would be to look at getting treatment outside the US. There are a number of countries that specialize in 'medical tourism'. Some have excellent medical facilities and the costs are substantially lower than what the same treatment costs in the US. I live and work in Thailand presently and received excellent treatment at a hospital in Bangkok. I wouldn't have elected to receive treatment here if I wasn't fully confident after meeting with the MD's and seeing the facilities. Even after figuring in the travel costs etc, the savings would still be appreciable. My diagnosis was Stage 4 base of tongue cancer and I underwent chemo and radiation treatments. I'm not sure if this would be feasible for your situation, but it is an option and can be easily researched on the internet. Cheers

    Jimbo
  • abbimom
    abbimom Member Posts: 87 Member
    Jimbo55 said:

    Another Option
    Hi and welcome to the site. Sorry that you are here. One more option would be to look at getting treatment outside the US. There are a number of countries that specialize in 'medical tourism'. Some have excellent medical facilities and the costs are substantially lower than what the same treatment costs in the US. I live and work in Thailand presently and received excellent treatment at a hospital in Bangkok. I wouldn't have elected to receive treatment here if I wasn't fully confident after meeting with the MD's and seeing the facilities. Even after figuring in the travel costs etc, the savings would still be appreciable. My diagnosis was Stage 4 base of tongue cancer and I underwent chemo and radiation treatments. I'm not sure if this would be feasible for your situation, but it is an option and can be easily researched on the internet. Cheers

    Jimbo

    Glenna is right
    I also had stage IV tongue cancer the only good thing was that I was 21 when it happened so I was on my parent's insurance at first but in the middle of treatment things got messed up. I ended up using the state program for prescriptions and then was put on medicaid. Listen to Glenna and speak with the hospital, there are also social workers at the hospital who could help. You could also try fundraising. I worked at Ruby Tuesdays the summer before diagnosis and they had a fundraiser for me. If there are any businesses that you are close to that is also an option to help out. But don't put treatment off. Also before she gets the treatments the doctors may suggest to see a dentist depending on the treatments they want to do. The dentist looks to see if you have any problems to fix before treatment and also to help protect your teeth during treatment. Best of Luck!
    Linda
  • luv4lacrosse
    luv4lacrosse Member Posts: 1,410 Member
    INSURANCE
    Good evening and welcome to our site. Let us help you with your journey.
    I am being treated at a very large Medical Center in St. Louis. It is also part of the School of Medicine. I have seen an office somewhere in the complex that is for financial aid. With all of the research monies avaiable, I bet if you start asking some questions, you may hear some good news. There are 100's of trial type programs going on at my facility where I know the patient pays nothing to participate.

    Also try to deal with a facility that is certified by the National Cancer Institute. I just think there are sources of revenue to help you out.

    Best of luck and post all of your results as the legwork you put into this could end up being someone else's answer.

    Thanks

    Mike
  • connieprice1
    connieprice1 Member Posts: 300 Member
    Glenna M said:

    Medicaid
    I was in the same position, was laid off and had no insurance when I was first diagnosed. Check with the hospital or cancer center where your wife will be receiving her treatment to see if they have a financial assistance department. The hospital where I received my treatment had their Medicaid specialist at the financial assistance dept contact me and she did all the work for me, I was approved within a couple of weeks and they paid some of my medical bills retroactive. If they do not have this assistance then go to your local Health and Human Services and they will tell you everything you will need to do to qualify for assistance. Please don't put this off, it is unfortunate that we find ourselves in this position but this is one of the things cancer does to people. I hated to ask for help as I had always worked and had always had my own insurance but when disaster strikes we are forced to ask for help.

    Please check into this today, once you supply them with all the necessary paperwork you could be approved within a couple of weeks.

    My best to you and your wife. Please post again so we know how you both are doing. We are here to help you in anyway we can.

    Stay strong,
    Glenna

    Glenna - I want to thank you
    Glenna - I want to thank you for your reply. My wife applied today for financial assistance at MD Anderson Cancer Hospital in Houston, Tx. God willing, they will except her. We applied for Medicaid two days ago but was told she would be rejected before they even looked at our application. It is frustrating we applied at our local welfare office and one guy stood out to me. He had 3 kids, tattoos from head to toe and wore his pants low so his underwear was there for everyone to see. Of course he had no job so he qualified for welfare, medicaid and housing. It seemed to me that they did not understand how a person can work everyday to pay back people in business and how a person can own a business and not be able to afford insurance. It's easy to lose your insurance policy, all you have to do is miss one payment. Anyways hopefully she will be accepted and she can start treatments. I was told today by my sister (registered nurse ) that cancer travels up and that if she didn't get treatment soon it could spread to her brain. After the shock of finding out your wife has cancer, I want her to get treatment right away.
  • connieprice1
    connieprice1 Member Posts: 300 Member
    Jimbo55 said:

    Another Option
    Hi and welcome to the site. Sorry that you are here. One more option would be to look at getting treatment outside the US. There are a number of countries that specialize in 'medical tourism'. Some have excellent medical facilities and the costs are substantially lower than what the same treatment costs in the US. I live and work in Thailand presently and received excellent treatment at a hospital in Bangkok. I wouldn't have elected to receive treatment here if I wasn't fully confident after meeting with the MD's and seeing the facilities. Even after figuring in the travel costs etc, the savings would still be appreciable. My diagnosis was Stage 4 base of tongue cancer and I underwent chemo and radiation treatments. I'm not sure if this would be feasible for your situation, but it is an option and can be easily researched on the internet. Cheers

    Jimbo

    Thanks Jimbo for the advice.
    Thanks Jimbo for the advice. My wife could go to Canada for treatment but if we go there I don't know how we could make a living so I would have to return home without here to work. We don't want to be separated at this critical time. It will be our last option since she is a Canadian citizen. We have been married for 25 years and lived in Texas and have 2 sons here so we want to keep our family together. Nonetheless thank you for your kind advice.
  • connieprice1
    connieprice1 Member Posts: 300 Member
    abbimom said:

    Glenna is right
    I also had stage IV tongue cancer the only good thing was that I was 21 when it happened so I was on my parent's insurance at first but in the middle of treatment things got messed up. I ended up using the state program for prescriptions and then was put on medicaid. Listen to Glenna and speak with the hospital, there are also social workers at the hospital who could help. You could also try fundraising. I worked at Ruby Tuesdays the summer before diagnosis and they had a fundraiser for me. If there are any businesses that you are close to that is also an option to help out. But don't put treatment off. Also before she gets the treatments the doctors may suggest to see a dentist depending on the treatments they want to do. The dentist looks to see if you have any problems to fix before treatment and also to help protect your teeth during treatment. Best of Luck!
    Linda

    Linda - Thanks for your
    Linda - Thanks for your response. I am in a trade but right now my wife wants to keep the situation private. Our biggest problem may be all the red tape that takes so much time. I pray MD Anderson will see the urgency and get her in right away as she has a tumor in her lymph nodes on her neck that is 6 centimeters x 6 centimeters. I want this to take a few days and so far any help may take a few weeks or month or more.
  • connieprice1
    connieprice1 Member Posts: 300 Member

    INSURANCE
    Good evening and welcome to our site. Let us help you with your journey.
    I am being treated at a very large Medical Center in St. Louis. It is also part of the School of Medicine. I have seen an office somewhere in the complex that is for financial aid. With all of the research monies avaiable, I bet if you start asking some questions, you may hear some good news. There are 100's of trial type programs going on at my facility where I know the patient pays nothing to participate.

    Also try to deal with a facility that is certified by the National Cancer Institute. I just think there are sources of revenue to help you out.

    Best of luck and post all of your results as the legwork you put into this could end up being someone else's answer.

    Thanks

    Mike

    Mike - I hope you are doing
    Mike - I hope you are doing well. I read some of your posts and responses and you have definately got a positive attitude. I appreciate knowing that this could work out ok, cause I don't want to lose my partner of 25 years. Your story of treatment and all the other storys gives us hope. Thank you and I will keep posting.
  • Glenna M
    Glenna M Member Posts: 1,576

    Glenna - I want to thank you
    Glenna - I want to thank you for your reply. My wife applied today for financial assistance at MD Anderson Cancer Hospital in Houston, Tx. God willing, they will except her. We applied for Medicaid two days ago but was told she would be rejected before they even looked at our application. It is frustrating we applied at our local welfare office and one guy stood out to me. He had 3 kids, tattoos from head to toe and wore his pants low so his underwear was there for everyone to see. Of course he had no job so he qualified for welfare, medicaid and housing. It seemed to me that they did not understand how a person can work everyday to pay back people in business and how a person can own a business and not be able to afford insurance. It's easy to lose your insurance policy, all you have to do is miss one payment. Anyways hopefully she will be accepted and she can start treatments. I was told today by my sister (registered nurse ) that cancer travels up and that if she didn't get treatment soon it could spread to her brain. After the shock of finding out your wife has cancer, I want her to get treatment right away.

    Don't understand
    I don't understand how they could refuse your wife before they even read her application??? Is it because she is a Canadian citizen???

    Hopefully she will be able to get financial assistance at MD Anderson, also ask the cancer center about some of the drugs she will be receiving during chemo. My chemo nurse put a request into the drug manufacturer of one of the drugs I would be receiving and they allowed me to receive it at no cost. There are several drug companies that will do that now and it is a Godsend.

    I also have a list, somewhere, of different organizations that will help out cancer patients. I will look for it and post it for you.

    If I think of anything else that may be of help to you I will let you know.

    My best to you and your family,
    Glenna
  • MarineE5
    MarineE5 Member Posts: 1,030 Member
    This may be of some help
    Worried Husband,

    Another board member posted this information some time back and I bookmarked it for future use. It is called Social Security Compassionate Allowances, Head and Neck cancers is on the initial list of allowances. I am not sure if your wife is on Social Security yet, but this will help with some finances.

    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/compassionateallowances/

    This is something that Social Security started in 2008. When I had tried to apply for Social Security Disability in 2004, I was denied right away, but things have changed with this newer program. The original poster stated that the time involved was only a few weeks of waiting to be approved. I'm not sure if she would be able to then be on Medicare right away? You may have to look into that a bit further, or someone here may know the answer.

    My Best to Both of You and Everyone Here
  • Glenna M
    Glenna M Member Posts: 1,576
    MarineE5 said:

    This may be of some help
    Worried Husband,

    Another board member posted this information some time back and I bookmarked it for future use. It is called Social Security Compassionate Allowances, Head and Neck cancers is on the initial list of allowances. I am not sure if your wife is on Social Security yet, but this will help with some finances.

    http://www.socialsecurity.gov/compassionateallowances/

    This is something that Social Security started in 2008. When I had tried to apply for Social Security Disability in 2004, I was denied right away, but things have changed with this newer program. The original poster stated that the time involved was only a few weeks of waiting to be approved. I'm not sure if she would be able to then be on Medicare right away? You may have to look into that a bit further, or someone here may know the answer.

    My Best to Both of You and Everyone Here

    Social Security and Medicare
    I was told by the financial assistant at my cancer center that if you were receiving Social Security Disability for 2 years you would automatically start receiving the Medicare benefit, you do not automatically get this.

    I believe it is from the date you were approved, not the date you received your first check. I could be wrong but this is what I was told.

    Hope this helps,
    Glenna
  • MarineE5
    MarineE5 Member Posts: 1,030 Member
    Glenna M said:

    Social Security and Medicare
    I was told by the financial assistant at my cancer center that if you were receiving Social Security Disability for 2 years you would automatically start receiving the Medicare benefit, you do not automatically get this.

    I believe it is from the date you were approved, not the date you received your first check. I could be wrong but this is what I was told.

    Hope this helps,
    Glenna

    SS and Medicare
    Glenna,

    You are correct about the 2 year disability time frame. I think the date starts from the date of the original claim filing. My question would be if any person would be eligible sooner due to the new Compassionate Allowance system? Would a person still have to wait 2 years to receive Medicare?

    I most admit that this insurance stuff is way over my head, so I don't often reply to such questions. But, I thought that the original poster on this site that mentioned the Compassionate Allowance was very helpful for future patients. We have enough on our plates when we first hear those words " You Have Cancer " and our world gets turned upside down.

    My Best to You and Everyone Here
  • Glenna M
    Glenna M Member Posts: 1,576
    MarineE5 said:

    SS and Medicare
    Glenna,

    You are correct about the 2 year disability time frame. I think the date starts from the date of the original claim filing. My question would be if any person would be eligible sooner due to the new Compassionate Allowance system? Would a person still have to wait 2 years to receive Medicare?

    I most admit that this insurance stuff is way over my head, so I don't often reply to such questions. But, I thought that the original poster on this site that mentioned the Compassionate Allowance was very helpful for future patients. We have enough on our plates when we first hear those words " You Have Cancer " and our world gets turned upside down.

    My Best to You and Everyone Here

    MarineE5
    I don't believe you would get Medicare any sooner because of the Compassionate Allowance system as that was in effect when I was approved. All of my paperwork and filing was done electronically by the Medicaid Specialist at the hospital where I was being treated so I know it was done correctly and she is the one who explained the 2 year wait to receive Medicare. I'm like you and do not understand all the insurance paperwork ;) so I am very grateful to this woman for all of her help. I met with her a week after I was diagnosed and she had everything approved before I started treatment which was only 3 weeks after meeting her. I would still be trying to figure out all of the forms if not for her. It would be wonderful if all hospitals had the Financial Assistance and Medicaid Specialist departments. It would especially make life easier and less stressful for anyone with a cancer diagnosis.

    Stay well,
    Glenna
  • luv4lacrosse
    luv4lacrosse Member Posts: 1,410 Member

    Mike - I hope you are doing
    Mike - I hope you are doing well. I read some of your posts and responses and you have definately got a positive attitude. I appreciate knowing that this could work out ok, cause I don't want to lose my partner of 25 years. Your story of treatment and all the other storys gives us hope. Thank you and I will keep posting.

    NEVER GIVE UP
    NEVER GIVE UP, AND NEVER BE AFRAID TO ASK THE HARD QUESTION. WHAT I MEAN BY THIS IS THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY YOU ARE BEING TREATED AT WHO CANNOT OR WILL NO PAY. I AM A FIRM BELIEVER IF YOU TALK TO ENOUGH PEOPLE AND PRESENT YOUR CASE OVER AND OVER, YOU WILL GET SOME HELP.

    BEST!!!

    MIKE
  • sweetblood22
    sweetblood22 Member Posts: 3,228
    Glenna M said:

    MarineE5
    I don't believe you would get Medicare any sooner because of the Compassionate Allowance system as that was in effect when I was approved. All of my paperwork and filing was done electronically by the Medicaid Specialist at the hospital where I was being treated so I know it was done correctly and she is the one who explained the 2 year wait to receive Medicare. I'm like you and do not understand all the insurance paperwork ;) so I am very grateful to this woman for all of her help. I met with her a week after I was diagnosed and she had everything approved before I started treatment which was only 3 weeks after meeting her. I would still be trying to figure out all of the forms if not for her. It would be wonderful if all hospitals had the Financial Assistance and Medicaid Specialist departments. It would especially make life easier and less stressful for anyone with a cancer diagnosis.

    Stay well,
    Glenna

    You still have to wait the
    You still have to wait the two years even with the compassionate allowance. I lost my insurance. I was one day late on payment due to memorial day holiday. My Medicaid won't kick in until July. I did apply at the hospital and my necessary health care will be covered until May of next year so their will be a two month gap or so.
  • connieprice1
    connieprice1 Member Posts: 300 Member
    Glenna M said:

    Don't understand
    I don't understand how they could refuse your wife before they even read her application??? Is it because she is a Canadian citizen???

    Hopefully she will be able to get financial assistance at MD Anderson, also ask the cancer center about some of the drugs she will be receiving during chemo. My chemo nurse put a request into the drug manufacturer of one of the drugs I would be receiving and they allowed me to receive it at no cost. There are several drug companies that will do that now and it is a Godsend.

    I also have a list, somewhere, of different organizations that will help out cancer patients. I will look for it and post it for you.

    If I think of anything else that may be of help to you I will let you know.

    My best to you and your family,
    Glenna

    Thanks again, Glenna The
    Thanks again, Glenna The people on this website are the BEST. Since we just the diagnosis 6 days ago we are getting so many different options. Our problem is time, I would like to get help now and it seems like so much red tape. I haven't said anything To Connie but it seems like the tumor in her neck has gotten much bigger in the past month. My sister told me that once you have a biopsy the cancer has a good chance of spreading and that their is the possibility of it getting into her brain which would lower her chances of recovery even more. She told me that cancer moves up and this has drove me into a panic! I think my biggest problem getting aid is my company grosses over $100,000 - $200,000 a year but this does not mean I would see a profit and for the past 3 years I haven't so I hope they don't allow my wife to die because I work. If I did not have a job we would be elgible but since we have owned a business for years it is working against us.
  • RitaDGonzalez
    RitaDGonzalez Member Posts: 1

    Mike - I hope you are doing
    Mike - I hope you are doing well. I read some of your posts and responses and you have definately got a positive attitude. I appreciate knowing that this could work out ok, cause I don't want to lose my partner of 25 years. Your story of treatment and all the other storys gives us hope. Thank you and I will keep posting.

    Mike- Everything goes well with you
    Hi Mike,
    Just gone through all the post related to the story. I am independent medical tourism consultant and have ties with various established medical tourism agencies name like www.globalbenefitoptions.com . Most of these agencies have tie-up with leading hospitals of the world including Cancer hospitals. You can view these hospitals list at here http://www.globalbenefitoptions.com/medical_tourism_directory.php . Might be these are of any help for you.
    In case you need any information, please feel free to ask me.

    Regards,
    Rita
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member

    Mike- Everything goes well with you
    Hi Mike,
    Just gone through all the post related to the story. I am independent medical tourism consultant and have ties with various established medical tourism agencies name like www.globalbenefitoptions.com . Most of these agencies have tie-up with leading hospitals of the world including Cancer hospitals. You can view these hospitals list at here http://www.globalbenefitoptions.com/medical_tourism_directory.php . Might be these are of any help for you.
    In case you need any information, please feel free to ask me.

    Regards,
    Rita

    Hi Rita
    Thanks for your info I am sure a lot of people here can use it.

    All the best
    Hondo
  • jim and i
    jim and i Member Posts: 1,788 Member
    Medicad and cancer spread
    I applied for medically needy Medicaid for Jim the first week Jim was diagnosed and he was approved 45 days later. He was however on Medicare so I do not know if that made a difference.

    As for the biopsy. Jim had his mid May and treatment was delayed over a month before they could start treatment do to waiting for gums to heal. He had stage 4 base of tongue with mets to two lymph nodes. As far as I know the biopsy does not spread the cancer, I believe that is a myth. Check with your doctor to be sure. Remember that nurses and even doctors who do not specialize in cancer are not specialist and can give wrong information. My mother has a nodule in her lung. She ask her grandson in law (he is a neurologist) if they could do a blood test to determine if it was cancer. He said yes. But when asking a lung cancer specialist the same question, he said no. I have also had a nurse tell me last week that a pseudocyst was not attached to my mother's pancreas. When I checked with the specialist I found out it is.

    I know you are worried. Jim and I were beside ourselves with all the delays. Just remember the squeaky wheel gets oiled and don't give in to the negative information. I do not know if you believe in the power of prayer. If you do, pray and have everyone you know pray. I will also pray for a good outcome.

    Blessings

    Debbie