What's the difference between a 'radical' and a 'modified radical'

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Rague
Rague Member Posts: 3,653 Member
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
mastectomy?

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  • survives
    survives Member Posts: 254 Member
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    I think---
    a radical mastectomy takes the muscle under the affected breast as well as the breast, plus they remove more nodes from different areas. This surgery goes to the chest wall. In a modified radical mastectomy (what I had), the muscle is left intact, the breast is removed and some of the nodes under the arm are removed. (I lost 13).
  • New Flower
    New Flower Member Posts: 4,294
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    survives said:

    I think---
    a radical mastectomy takes the muscle under the affected breast as well as the breast, plus they remove more nodes from different areas. This surgery goes to the chest wall. In a modified radical mastectomy (what I had), the muscle is left intact, the breast is removed and some of the nodes under the arm are removed. (I lost 13).

    Radical versus radical modified
    I was explained radical modified all lymph nodes were removed.
  • survives
    survives Member Posts: 254 Member
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    Radical versus radical modified
    I was explained radical modified all lymph nodes were removed.

    You are right, New Flower.
    That AND the muscle is removed. It is quite an extensive surgery. Usually done when cancer is on chest wall as well as breast.

    edited to add::

    From breastcancer.org
    Surgery for breast cancer in which the breast, chest muscles, and all of the lymph nodes under the arm are removed. For many years, this was the most common operation for breast cancer. It is rarely performed today.

    Woman with radical mastectomy. A pink highlighted area indicates tissue removed at mastectomy B axillary lymph nodes: levels I C axillary lymph nodes: levels II D axillary lymph nodes: levels III E supraclavicular lymph nodes F internal mammary lymph nodes

    Copy and paste this link: http://www.breastcancer.org/pictures/treatment/skin_sparing_mastectomy/radical.jsp

    And I do hope I'm breaking the rules for posting link to another site!
    Jennifer
  • VickiSam
    VickiSam Member Posts: 9,079 Member
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    survives said:

    You are right, New Flower.
    That AND the muscle is removed. It is quite an extensive surgery. Usually done when cancer is on chest wall as well as breast.

    edited to add::

    From breastcancer.org
    Surgery for breast cancer in which the breast, chest muscles, and all of the lymph nodes under the arm are removed. For many years, this was the most common operation for breast cancer. It is rarely performed today.

    Woman with radical mastectomy. A pink highlighted area indicates tissue removed at mastectomy B axillary lymph nodes: levels I C axillary lymph nodes: levels II D axillary lymph nodes: levels III E supraclavicular lymph nodes F internal mammary lymph nodes

    Copy and paste this link: http://www.breastcancer.org/pictures/treatment/skin_sparing_mastectomy/radical.jsp

    And I do hope I'm breaking the rules for posting link to another site!
    Jennifer

    Thank you 'Survives' ...
    Often wondered .. knew radical had to do with muscles and lymph nodes removal. It's odd on what we remember or forget during our chemo and surgery periods.

    Vicki Sam
  • Chrispea
    Chrispea Member Posts: 123 Member
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    I had a radical mastectomy,
    I had a radical mastectomy, and my surgeon took a bit of muscle and 15 lymphnodes. They tested the muscle and it was clear.

    I did physical therapy. My insurance only paid for 15 sessions, but it was totally worth it. I wish I could go every week still. I always felt great afterward. I'm still sore, but can lift my arm up almost the whole way.
  • survives
    survives Member Posts: 254 Member
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    Chrispea said:

    I had a radical mastectomy,
    I had a radical mastectomy, and my surgeon took a bit of muscle and 15 lymphnodes. They tested the muscle and it was clear.

    I did physical therapy. My insurance only paid for 15 sessions, but it was totally worth it. I wish I could go every week still. I always felt great afterward. I'm still sore, but can lift my arm up almost the whole way.

    Good for you!!
    Is there anyway you can do your exercises yourself? Wonderful that your range of motion is coming back!! My aunt said that that was the hardest part....getting that back. Isn't it too bad that insurance companies don't understand what is needed in any kind of rehab? 15 sessions?? Wow.