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dakotarunner
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We have all read different comments on this site about Prostate Cancer(PC), and how little a lot of people know about it, and that many think it is just a slow cancer that is a good type of cancer to have, and it sure dosen't look like we have anything wrong with us if we have PC.

As men, we don't push the issue like we should. Admit it guys, PC is affecting our lives, our families, and all those around us. It is time to stand up and face the world and say "I've got Prostate Cancer and I am going to kick its ass".

Women are blessed with Breast Cancer(BC), and men with Prostate Cancer(sarcasim). Take a look at the number of posts/comments on the BC discussion site, and the number of the posts/comments on the PC site. Are we unable to communicate, or are we embarressed, or just to plain dumb to discuss it. PC is not a sin to have. I do not wear it like a medal or badge of courage, but I do believe in talking to my friends and co-workers about it. It does not take to much to put a bug in someones ear to get a PSA check, or to have them suggest that their husband, father, uncle, brother or friend get a check. Many people do not know diddly-squat about PC, or how easy it is to do a basic check for it. I remember telling the members on my management team at work that I had PC, and the woman that was our health benefits manager asked is she should worry about getting checked for PC. Like I said, many people don't know diddly-squat.

Several comments have been made about the Susan B. Komen run against BC. I participated in my home-towns first run 2 years ago. Approx. 1700 people participated in the inagural event. Men, women, children, seniors, and they all had a good time. It took effort on the part of many people to ull it off. BUT, an event like this always has to start on a small scale somewhere. We PC'ers can do the same thing. You do not have to have a huge event to make a difference. PC'ers are spread across the nation and the world. You probably have more of them within 50 miles of you than you think. We can work together within our smaller geographical areas to not only put on a run to raise PC awareness, but we can provide a network of people for newly diagnosed PC'ers to talk to. Much like AA, a person with PC can more readily relate and talk to a newly diagnosed PC'er.

So it is time to stand up to PC. We can talk the talk, but can we walk the walk?? All PC'ers can have a part in kicking PC's butt. Maybe just to talk to someone who just found out he has it, maybe by holding a public discussion, maybe by promoting a community event like a run. Heck, if nothing else, a guy can just dribble on PC(said tongue in cheek). WE CAN DO IT.

I hope this lights a fire under our PC asses that will get us off our butt and doing something about PC. You can email me at kickincancer@hotmail.com

Best to all. Dakotarunner

HIFUgal
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Do you know about HIFU?

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dakotarunner
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Just what I have been able to read on this site. Looks interesting so far.

Thanks, dakotaruner

hopeful and opt...
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Please stop spamming

Trew
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I do talk to men about having their PSA levels checked, but I am not comfortable discussing this problem in mixed company, or with just any man. Actually, I am embrassed by PC and feel for some reason I am standing a little less tall than I once did.

My I hate this thing.

But I am interested in pushing awareness of PC, too. Fw men understand what "the shot" means to a man's life. Or what surgery means, or could mean. So I am conflicted about seeking privacy and pushing public awareness.

I guess it is how I am feeling from day to day- you know, "the shot" effect.

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When I was first diagnosed with PC, my Dr. at that time thought it had mets to rib cage. Called off surgery, gave me a "the shot", told me to come back in 3 months for another shot, and we would see what things looked like in 6 months. My biopsy was 4+3, and numbers had been going up for approx. 4 yrs. During the hour drive home, I decided to get a 2nd opinion and went to Mayo, and ended up with RP surgery. No regrets. I did get hot flashes about 6 weeks after the shot - gave me a whole new look on what women go thru.

I don't feel embarassed about talking about PC, either to men or women. Usually the person I am talking to expresses embarassment that they have so little knowledge of what PC really is and what it involves. I am still the same person I was before PC, and I think maybe I am a little bit better for having PC. To me, it is a disease, not a scarlet letter.

Everyone has their own feelings and thoughts about talking about PC to others. I fully respect your feeings and like you, I hate this thing, but I am stuck with it, and recently found out is back. Dumb PC, it just doesn't know what it is up against.

Best to you. I have enjoyed your posts. Keep up the good fight, and keep posting.

Trew
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I will be doing a funeral for a man on Thursday who just died on Saturday morning. The "I Looked Death in the Face" post tells some of the story. I have seen this ugly cancer before. And at times I want to rattle PCa's gage and do him some real harm. But then the eligard swings around, or I wet my pads, or my pants, and I want to just run for cover until my emotions settle down. And so it goes. Under the right conditions, I do want to stand up and fight this thing.

I am planning to make a contribution to ACS on behalf of Don this week.

That is also one way to fight back. But I also want to know what organization has the best track record for fighting PC- that is the one I want to really support. I do not want my sons to go through what I have.

Remember Gregory Peck as Capt. Ahab in Moby Dick crying out, "Death to Moby Dick!"

That is how I feel about PC most days.

I hate this thing!

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I never felt embarrassed about having PCa, and to my own surprise I soon found out that I didn't mind talking about it. I will bend anyone's ear about the importance of getting checked. The reluctance of many, if not most, men to speak up or seek support and information baffles me. Look around, there are pink ribbons and breast cancer awareness events everywhere, but nearly nothing for our favorite disease, even though it affects and kills about the same number of people. It certainly looks like it's up to us to make noise about it, since nobody else is doing it. Just being here on this forum puts you in a small percentage of PCa survivors. This is an easily accessible resource, but even so, it is ignored by the vast majority of men faced with a PCa diagnosis.

Don't be embarrassed. It's not your fault. Don't be afraid to talk about it. Keeping quiet just sustains the ignorance.

I live in a rural area, and I have to travel about 75 miles to get to a monthly support group meeting that usually has about 15 survivors (plus a few spouses). I am quite sure that there are a LOT more than 15 PCa survivors within a 75-mile radius of the meeting, but that is all we get. I will admit that it took me some time to get up the nerve to go the first time, but now I look forward to the meetings. It wasn't exactly obvious to me that the support group existed in the beginning, because nobody told me about it, or any other resources, for that matter. So I would say that is part of the communication problem -- Did your doctor point you at support and information resources at diagnosis?

Trew
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No. I have had a very strange doc/patient relationship with my urologist. He did surgery on March 23, I saw him 7 days later on March 31 for the path report, and I believe I have not seem him since then- I have only seen his PA. Very strange.

But I do feel like my life is embrassing. I am wetting a lot again since radiaiton, the "shot" well, it is sometimes difficult for me to discuss this, even with my wife, but I do not like living with the effects of the shot, but I should just be glad to be alive, but that is not how I feel about all this.

I am encouraging men to get their PSA checked.

From day one this whole thing has been a bit overwhlelming to me. And it seems some men take it so well.

Hopefully I will get some urinary control back soon and regain what I had before radiation.

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I am all too familiar with side effects from the shot!
After some discussion with my wife, I swallowed my pride and asked my doctor about antidepressants. I had a bad physical reaction to the first one, but the second one was fine. Feeling like crap all the time is neither necessary nor productive. Depression is real, compounded by the emotional problems of dealing with cancer and by the hormone disruption. Toughing it out is not an effective treatment, although many men seem to believe that it is, for some reason. Antidepressants reduce the uncontrollable lacrymation too, in my experience.

When I was hospitalized for bone met pain last fall, the ER doc told me, "You don't get any extra points for suffering." If you need the meds, take them.

To salvage this post from being completely off-topic...
Take a look at http://www.ustoo.org/Default.asp
They have some good information about "Getting Involved".

hopeful and opt...
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great post..........there is an organization........Us Too tht does a great job..1800-808-7866......... www.ustoo.org

ira

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dakotarunner
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Thanks for the link. I checked it out and have added it to my favorites. More info. and chances for involvement are appreciated.

Fight on!

Trew
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Just to the left there is an opportuntiy to "donate Now." I made a small gift yesterday and I hope to make more next year. However, PC has used a lot of my money this year. Besides what insurance pays, there are a lot of co-pays and deductibles and pads, and travel, and....

But every bit hurts so I sent them something.

Fight on!

And Run Dakota, run!!

HIFUgal
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So sad....that dakatorunner has only heard about HIFU from what I've written, see? How will men hear about it if I quit..."spamming"....telling men there is another option, one that has verrry little chance of any side effects....my paticipation here makes me a bad girl? I've helped so many and recieved so many thank yous...the few of you who are nasty to me won't quiet me, not until HIFU is approved and available to everyone. Stop the misery.

Here's another letter from a guy:
"HIFU works and works well. Dr. Suarez did the procedure on me almost 4 years ago. My PSA is 0.5 and I have a great sex life. Sadly I got this disease in my late 40s. Hopefully the FDA will do the right thing and approve HIFU in the US and give guys another choice in the battle vs. cancer."

He still has a PSA of .5 because he still has the gland capsule, with surgery the capsule is gone ~ that's why the PSA should be lower.

bdhilton
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Go away with your spam HIFUgal

hopeful and opt...
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or any treatment option, but the hifugal posts generally have no substance, and interupt discussions that are ongoing...........In my opinion this hifugal is a troll, or is missing something.

bdhilton
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I support and wish anyone the best with any treatment (or no treatment). I researched every available treatment and considered each one. My Urologist even said he would have flown up to Canada with me to have HIFU if I meet other criteria (he treats folks that have HIFU, Radiation therapy, Surgery, etc)…I am just tired of hearing one-sided statements misrepresenting the actual facts… best to you

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Sorry HIFU,but I had RP back in '04. I felt it was the best deal then, and still stand by my decision.

Call me old fashioned, but I kinda like an approved procedure. To each their own, so please don't put me in as your topic of "So sad...that dakotarunner".

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HIFU sounds good, at least everything YOU say about it anyway..... but, there is one fact that remains.... the US still has not approved it and insurance doesn't cover it. Those are facts. AGain, for something that has been done supposedly for 19 years in Europe if it was really that successful how is it still yet to be approved by the US....19 years? There has to be a reasonable reason...and don't give me radiologist and surgeons determine what gets approved because surgeons are the ones doing the HIFU procedure - it's not some techno geek. I agree with bd your exhaustive thrust of HIFU on here borderlines irresponsibility and really just looks like a planted stooge from HIFU International. Seriously, do you get paid for each post....a cut of the non-insurance paid procedure from someone getting the procedure done mentioning they heard about it from you? Here's a fact I was able to garner from my over 1 hour conversation with a nurse that called me back from HIFU international. HIFU's business is markedly down from two years ago....the economy has had a large effect according to the nurse who I discussed the procedure with. Do you really work for HIFU international? Do you see where this is going....if you have prompted me to write the above about you....what do you think others are thinking here in this forum. If I was you I would back off a bit. Oh, here's another fact...most every poster on here states...here is how my path went in deciding the procedure for me....specific detailed snipets along the way....but about 100% of us always qualify our decisons with...the choice has to be your OWN.....funny I don't ever remember seeing that kind of comment in your posts???? Hey...I could be wrong and if so I appologize in advance but hey I try to call it as I see it. Oh, here's another question for you. Your husband...who actually had the procedure done....why have we not heard from him on here?...why is it the spouse spending all this time and energy here pushing the result when you personally have not even experienced the procedure and cannot effectively talk about details everyone here is interested in about the after affects on the body? What's your name? What's your husbands name? Are you getting my line of thinking yet? I don't wish any bad outcome on anyone and never will, in fact I want all of us to be cured. Maybe HIFU is viable and a great option for many....I just don't appreciate the impression you are giving all of us based on my thoughts I have presented above. I post my stats (very detailed one's at that) on many of my posts so I won't do it again here.

Randy in Indy

Trew
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How could I have typed "every bit hurts?" Of course I meant, every bit helps.

Run Dakota, run!!

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dakotarunner
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I knew what you meant. Thanks.

Keep up the good fight POPC!

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Yes Dakotarunner I agree we need to be proactive ,If a friend had not warned me I would not be here today.In all the hostpitals and docs surgeries you always see breast cancer screening or on the media very rare to see have you had a psa checkup.I think if more men new about the blood test as apposed to the magic finger test they would all get it done. good luck for the future hope alls on the mend keep up the good work thanks again Shane

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dakotarunner
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I was visiting with my main boss on the job I am on today. He had recently had a check up and I asked him if he had a PSA blood check done, along with a DRE. He had no idea of what I was talking aobut. He is approx. 55-57 yr. old. He knows now of the importanace of the two procedures. Whether he will follow up or not, I don't know, but you can bet I will follow up on this with him in the next few weeks.

Take care of that grandchild.

Keep up the good fight,and POPC!

bdhilton
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I tell anyone that listens when the opportunity comes around…Had a friend last month that listened, got tested and had a PSA over 10. He is waiting now for his biopsy results…but without these conversations I have found many guys just do not think about getting them done…

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I lucked out by being in the right place with the right person...my partner who is an RN. My father died from Alzhiemer's - well no one really ever dies from Alzhiemer's they die from asphyxiation when food is sucked into their lungs because they have no memory of how to control breathing while eating in advanced stages of Dementia. Anyway, I had his body autopsied and in the report I find he had prostate cancer with PSA's reported over 30 in medical records. That fact should have been my clue to get a PSA done starting in my early 40's but I was not smart enough about that so here I am at the state fair in Indiana and my partner wanted to visit the health building...something I would never have done on my own or perhaps had I had another partner that was not an RN. She wanted to see if the giant walkthrough colon was still there...I said, OK I'm up for walking through the giant rectum! Come to find out the giant rectum must have been replaced by a more friendly exhibit...but...I did notice a large white poster board accross the building that had written on it FREE PSA test...I said hey I need to do that...didn't my dad have prostate cancer when he died...10 years ago. I was lucky this happened or I would still be walking around now totally oblivious to having cancer growing in my body...no symptoms other than getting up several times in the night to pee. Lucky Lucky Randy. What mountain is it you are climing with your son this summer? ...my brother has done some fourteeniers not sure how many but he wants to do 14 of them I guess. His next trip in the spring is to backpack into the Grand Canyon with his two daughters on an indian reservation. Back to the theme of the thread...I am telling all males and females with males...get a PSA every year and know your number and what it means.

bdhilton
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Yes I truly believe that everything happens for a reason in life (do not believe in the Chaos Theory) good, bad or indifferent.

Thanks for asking -Half dome out of Yosemite Valley...My picture is standing in the “Saddle” looking up at the last 400+ feet to the top of Half Dome. Rising nearly 5,000 feet above Yosemite Valley and 8,800 feet above sea level, Half Dome is a Yosemite icon and a great challenge to many climber and hikers.

The 14- to 16-mile round-trip hike (depending o route) to Half Dome is not for you if you're out of shape or unprepared. Along the way, you'll see outstanding views of Vernal and Nevada Falls, Liberty Cap, Half Dome, and--from the shoulder and summit--panoramic views of Yosemite Valley and the High Sierra….incredible…

I have personally climbed Half Dome (real climb) in years past but I will be taking my son on the most famous--or infamous--part of the hike…and that is the ascent up the cables. Two metal cables allow hikers to climb the last 400 feet to the summit without rock climbing equipment (if cables not there it would be a class 5.1 + climb). Nothing like getting your blood pumping…Anyway this is my goal and my urologist told me I will be able to do it…Perhaps I should do it for the “Piss on Prostate Cancer” cause and fly the flag at the top….

The Grand Canyon is incredible…about a 20 mile hike to the bottom I would suggest pack mules with all of your gear to the bottom and hike out (now that is about 20 miles as I remember straight up-I was 13 when I did it with my Dad)…They will never forget the trip…

hopeful and opt...
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have both a PSA and a digital rectal exam........I guess some men do not feel comfortable getting a dre..but early detection is where its at.

By the way, (a little humor) I've seen various doctors at teaching hospitals where there are residents and fellow following them around......well the main doc at these different institution do DREs and the the residents and fellow also want to do a DRE which I decline...........I guess that I'm a s l u t, but I don't do orgies.

Ira

Ralphie62
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We need t-shirts!!! I'm thinking black and "I had prostate cancer, and I kicked it's ass" on the front and "i'm a survivor!!" on the back. I really appreciate your push to get out the word and fight for prostate awareness. You know, the problem is, there is no "guy doctor", no one looking out for us. Women have ob/gyn's, but guys don't have a "main man". I think it's because guys hate the doctor and only go if absolutely necessary. I had to have a lense replacement. I had to have a recent physical to have the surgery, and (thank God) found that my PSA was up...........whoever thought a lense replacement might save your life? Ralph

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additionally, us too has blue plastic ribbon type clip ons and wrist bands.....you can wear these all the time, and engage in conversations.

Ira

Probably a good idea for us to post prostate awareness activities in our areas as we come across them.

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I love the T Shirt Idea even hats would be good .How about a funky poster , I think this could really take of a very possitive attitude keep up all this good stuff. thank heavens for the lense surgery Ralphie.

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http://www.zazzle.com/prostate+cancer+awareness+month+slogan+gifts?pg=8

Page 4 has a shirt for your dog even!

I see a beer mug I would like!

Still searching for more slogans.....

Randy in indy

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dakotarunner
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I agree Randy - Zazzle has lots of interesting PC items. I tend to like the "Piss on Prostate Cancer" T shirts, but they also have lots of good posters, etc. Thaks for the site. I could not copy and paste your link, but just goggled it.

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http://www.cafepress.com/awarenessgifts/3477345

Hockey Fans....Picture of puck with large Light Blue cancer cell written inside the cell "Puck Prostate Cancer"

More sites:

http://www.cafepress.com/gifts4awareness/5784604

For all you golfers out there this is interesting:

http://www.zerocancer.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=9205

Another great site with multitudes of ideas on Prostate awareness.

http://www.psa-rising.com/blog/category/events/

I'm going to bed...nighty night folks.

randy in indy

Ralphie62
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Wife and i are laughing silly over puck thing.... totally getting something with that on it!!Ralph

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erisian
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Thanks for staying up late doing research!

At CafePress, you can set up your own store, for free (at least it used to be free), and upload your own designs for custom printed shirts,hats mugs and just about anything else.

Now we need more slogans...

I like the "survivor" theme for T-shirts."Prostate Cancer Survivor" or "Cancer Survivor".

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dakotarunner
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I also like the survivor theme. It is lots better to be a survivor than the alternative.

I am stealing a motto from "The Band of Brothers -Easy Company" to thro this out on the table - "Prostate Cancer Survivor -
We stand alone together"

Keep up the good fight everyone POPC

bdhilton
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Perhaps a tad morbid but

Dead Man Walking (front)
Prostate Cancer Survivor (Back)

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WHW
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The front reads;

1 in 6 Men WILL Get
Prostate Cancer

The back reads;
Are YOU One of
The Lucky 5!!

Sonny

bdhilton
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Illustrated your design at http://bdhilton.com/

TonyJr
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I really wish I was as confident and you are, right now I'm still in total shock, I'm trying to deal with this the best way I can. I'm not giving in to it, but I'm trying not to let it or allow it to take control of my life, the way I feel it's trying to...but hopefully I'll eventually get a handle on it..

Thanks TonyJr

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What are your stats and where are you on the path in this unlucky club?

Randy in indy

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What are your stats and where are you on the path in this unlucky club?

Randy in indy

Trew
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I understand your sentiments- I am fighting that same battle since march 09 when I had surgery. Confident? Not a bit. I would describe myself more a living in the shadows, wondering what is coming next.

I hate this thing!

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Hi, I am a registered nurse and the wife of a wonderful man just diagnosed 3 days ago. I'm off on medical leave from major surgery right now, and he is at work, so here I sit at the computer trying to make some sense of this thing called prostate cancer.
I guess what I want to say is this: I never before realized how difficult the decision was for what to do about one's prostate cancer. At least a woman with cervical cancer who has a hysterectomy can still have sex, and is not usually incontinent. At least a woman with breast cancer can have reconstruction. This is a crappy disease and I just never realized it before!
My husband's story: PSA 4.3, prostate size 27, 12 samples taken, ONE suspicious, ONE positive for adenocarcinoma (5% of sample). Gleason 3+3 for 6.
We are considering DaVinci or HIFU..although I'm getting a little scared of HIFU because it seems to be being sold all over the Internet...

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dakotarunner
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Greetings.

Sorry you are here, but glad you are here. I had read your first post, but did not reply cuz' I went with RP as a choice for surgery. I tink you will find many different opinions at this site. Everyone did what they thought was best in their case, so it can get a little confusing. I can say that is is a club that we did not volunteer to join, but once a member, we quickly come to appreciate each others support.

PC is a "crappy" disease, and the results of fighting it seems to affect different people different ways, even if they have had the same procedure done. You and your husband will be faced with many possibilities and the final decsion will be yours. Take your time to the options and make your decsion.

The members of the PC club are here to offer support, to lend an ear, and what ever else may help you and husband.

Sincerely, Dakota Runner POPC

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mrshisname
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Hi and thank you so much for your reply.
I just feel really lost today. Have spent most of the day on the internet and still don't have very good answers for my hubby.
I'll be hanging out here a lot from now on, soakin' up info. So glad to have found this site/message board...

Ralphie62
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I know exactly what you mean. I spent the first week straight on the internet, and found the CSN....this site saved me. I spent hours searching ,reading (crying)...until I got to a place where I felt like "we could do this". We are going to do this and beat it!!!We've just got todecide how. And you will not find any people better, more helpful, or compassionate than the "family" on this site. Sorry you're here, but welcome! :)Ralphie's wife

bdhilton
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I designed a t shirt is your honor on my site :-)

jojo72455
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As the wife of a man with prostate cancer and an RN I totally agree with you.... especially now that the trend is to avoid doing PSA's which is the only way to diagnose it before there are symptoms. Make sure to tell your friends and relatives to ask for a PSA test. Otherwise, like my husband, you may not get one in time to treat the cancer.

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I watch that and "the Doctors" sometimes...don't want people to think I don't work...cuz I do many, many hours a week. But I have two DVR recorders in my home and record all kinds of programs...Dr. Oz is just one. Anyway, program the other day was an all about men show...5 things below the belt that can kill men. Anyway one was prostate cancer...I sat throught the entire @#$%ing show and not ONE SINGLE TIME did they even bring up getting a PSA test...they did an actual DRE...guy was laying down on his side....I ask you have you ever had one lying down in a Dr.'s Office....Sheesh bend over dude.... I was really pissed feel like I should call them...they only stressed the DRE exam and talked about heridity and how if its in your lines the age is 40. I just don't get it...they showed on National TV a guy getting a DRE...good to see the man was not in pain and didn't have a problem (guy from the audience) and they lost the opportunity to say "GET A PSA TEST" EVERY YEAR and KNOW YOUR NUMBER and KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER MEANS!!! I would think they should have started with that....as who's afraid of a blood test vs who's afraid of a finger? Many men fear that I think...but I don't have a problem with either personally because I feel I'm more in touch with my body than most people from the 100,000 miles I have run in my lifetime...maybe I should say previous life because I don't run any more due to arthritis in my hips. Anyway...I was truely disappointed that not once did Dr. Oz or the Uroligist he had there to do the DRE mention getting a PSA test.

bdhilton
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Two points…

A friend of mine in recent history went to his doctor after talking with me about my scare and his doctor gave him a DRE (not a PSA) …So he tells me the story of the DRE and I ask “so what is your PSA…” He says “what is a PSA…” I say run to a urologist and get one and dump this quack…he does and his PSA is over 10…he is shopping options right now…

There is a school of thought out there from what I read (lead by a Harvard doctor-nothing against Harvard doctors my step father was one)…that PSA are #$@%@^$#^ …PSA may not be the most definitive test but it for sure from my point of view raises a flag…btw my surgeon is the one that developed this test many years ago (Dr. Catalona)…

Watch out…quack quack quack

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