Numbness in hands and arms.....

pinkkari09
pinkkari09 Member Posts: 877
edited March 2014 in Breast Cancer #1
Hello pink ladies, I have a question for you....I was supposed to have my tenth round of taxol today (already finished 4 a/c and 9 of 12 taxol) and my doctor called it off because the numbness in my hands is starting to run up my arms. I've been told this damage is irreversible, has anyone else had this happen? I struggle to hold on to stuff, and my dexterity is terrible. I have surgery after this taxol is done (bilateral mastectomy, all lymph nodes, both ovaries) and I'm scared s@#$less!! While I'm at it, I just as well keep venting, a bunch of my family and friends completely avoid me now, I have cancer not the plague, this breaks my heart!! I feel so ugly, so sad, and so alone, even though I have an amazing daughter and a few good friends/relatives, I just want to get this over with. Ok, I'm done now, Happy New Year to all of you and God Bless,
Kari

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  • Mama G
    Mama G Member Posts: 762
    THAT STINKS!
    When did the numbness start? I just completed #7 and have a little numbness in my feet. Does it continue to worsen with each Taxol? I know everyone is different, but it makes me think maybe you could just take a few extra days between treatments to allow the numbness to go away.

    As for your friends and relatives, remove the "good" part of that sentence. How sad... I wonder if they make a shirt that says " NOT CONTAGIOUS! JUST CANCER!"
    I would love to wear that one. I've been working at a school for 4 years now and many of the teachers avoid me like the plague. I just figure they're either not very nice, don't know how to handle it, never really liked me in the first place, think I'm contagious.
    Luckily I have 5 really nice, caring teacher friends who are awesome to me! Even just a smile and "how are you doing?" can make my whole day so much better.... I've learned a lot through this and wonder if I was that "walk right by and hope she didn't notice" person in the past when someone needed a hug or a smile....
  • Marlene_K
    Marlene_K Member Posts: 508
    Friends
    I'm sorry, but I can't help you with the numbness. I'm on TAC and have had 4 out of 6 treatments. I'm really sorry you're going through that, but the 'friends' thing is something I can relate to. I truly believe, as crazy as it sounds, that they try to protect themselves. I just recently had a friend come forward that never talked to me about my breast cancer... she just disappeared out of my life even though she knew. She told me that because she recently lost her dad to cancer, she couldn't face going through it again, so she opted to isolate herself from my situation to avoid the possibility of being hurt. Wow! I thought it took a lot of guts to admit something like that. Although I don't agree with it and don't ever think I could react the same way, I respect her a lot for being true to her feelings. I'm getting the feeling that a lot of people just don't know what to do or say, so they instead opt to back off. But that's ok... we will come through and show these people that cancer doesn't have to mean death. We will enlighten them and in the end, we will know who our 'true' friends are. It's sad, Kari, I know... but there aren't many!

    Happy new year! I'm sure you are just as willing to wish 2009 ado and move onto a much better and healthier new year!

    Hugs ~ Mar
  • natly15
    natly15 Member Posts: 1,941
    Kari I just had my first
    Kari I just had my first round of taxol this past Monday, and at moments I can barely walk from the pain. I have 3 more to go. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

    You are not ugly, you are a very pretty lady. Cancer is ugly but we are not. I think people avoid us because they dont know what to say and they Do Not Understand cancer treatement. This is not a one shot deal like surgery. You have surgery, you are under the weather and then you get better. This is ongoing and people dont get it. They expect us to be feeling better and we dont feel better for any length of time because after every round of chemo we get sick again.

    I'm with you, I cant wait till this is over and we can get back to some normalcy without pain and nausea. Keep your chin up. Wishing you a healthy 2010. You are not alone, believe that. I'm sending a New year prayer your way. May God bless you.
  • pinkkari09
    pinkkari09 Member Posts: 877
    peripheral neuropathy, that's what it's called....
    ....this is a condition that can or cannot be reversed. You can find the information at
    http://www.chemocare.com/MANAGING/numbness__tingling.asp
    My doctor told me from the start to let her know of the symptoms, I was not totally honest with her on the severity of them because I didn't want her to stop my treatments because my cancer is so far advanced....big mistake!! If you experience any numbness let your doc know. Mine started in my fingertips, now it's up my arms, in my face, in my feet and at times I have to look to see where my arm is before I move it, scary!
    THANK YOU so much everyone for your encouraging words on friends and family, although it stinks that it has to happen I'm grateful we have each other and that I'm not the only one with this issue.
    Love to all,
    Kari
  • dmc_emmy
    dmc_emmy Member Posts: 549

    peripheral neuropathy, that's what it's called....
    ....this is a condition that can or cannot be reversed. You can find the information at
    http://www.chemocare.com/MANAGING/numbness__tingling.asp
    My doctor told me from the start to let her know of the symptoms, I was not totally honest with her on the severity of them because I didn't want her to stop my treatments because my cancer is so far advanced....big mistake!! If you experience any numbness let your doc know. Mine started in my fingertips, now it's up my arms, in my face, in my feet and at times I have to look to see where my arm is before I move it, scary!
    THANK YOU so much everyone for your encouraging words on friends and family, although it stinks that it has to happen I'm grateful we have each other and that I'm not the only one with this issue.
    Love to all,
    Kari

    Kari-I'm so sorry to hear about your neuropathy
    I had chermo four years ago, come this next Feb, with a/c and taxol. Though I did not have the duration that you are have, I did (and still do) experience neuropathy. After the chemo, the neuropathy was exceptionally bad and, I too, could not hold onto things very well. In time, the neuropathy in my hands and arms improved. I still have some neuropathy in my feet, but it has become more of an annoyance than a problem. I just need to careful as to what kinds of shoes I wear, that I hold onto a stair railing when when I walk up or down steps on my really bad days in particular, and that I consciously aware of where my feet are (that may sound funny, but after awhile it becomes second nature). I was told, too, that the neuropathy may, or may not, go away with the passing of time. At first, I was so frustrated (and even cried) when I dropped things. The worse thing was when I was not thinking and tried to carry of jar of applesauce with one hand while holding the phone under my chin (like "normal" folks do) and the jar dropped. As luck would have it, it broke all over my hallway carpet and there is NOTHING that cleans-up apple sauce (not even Oxi Clean)! I suppose it's a good thing that I am not materialistic, because my once light green carpet is stained a very nasty-looking brown (it's worse than the puppy "spills" that never came completely clean).

    As for the friends, well, all I can say is that when one really needs a friend is when you learn who your strong and faithful friends are, because these are the ones who stand-by you no regardless of the pain they feel because of the pain you are enduring.

    I had a friend for over 30 years that never wrote to me again after I told her I had cancer. We were inseparable during high school and beyond, and we continued contact with one another even after I moved several states away from her. At first, I was hurt, but now I have accepted it and I am no longer angry with her. In fact, just recently, I tried to call her to tell her that I am well now. Cancer is a frightening thing and, to those who know and love us, it frigthens them as well. People run from fear, our friends are no different. Wouldn't we have run from it, too, if we had been given a choice?
    dmc
  • Cher2063
    Cher2063 Member Posts: 12
    I see your photo
    Kari,
    I see your photo. Two beautiful women. No ugliness there. I will keep you in my prayers.
  • New Flower
    New Flower Member Posts: 4,294
    Cher2063 said:

    I see your photo
    Kari,
    I see your photo. Two beautiful women. No ugliness there. I will keep you in my prayers.

    hopefully numbness is reversible
    Kari,
    you look great on your picture and will looks even better after you complete your treatment.
    Just wait and be gentle with yourself, We all have been there and feel your pain.
    Hopefully numbness will go away after Chemo stops, Physical therapy and time will help.
    Have a very healthy New Year,
  • carkris
    carkris Member Posts: 4,553 Member

    hopefully numbness is reversible
    Kari,
    you look great on your picture and will looks even better after you complete your treatment.
    Just wait and be gentle with yourself, We all have been there and feel your pain.
    Hopefully numbness will go away after Chemo stops, Physical therapy and time will help.
    Have a very healthy New Year,

    I just finished number 9 of
    I just finished number 9 of taxol. i have numbness n my fingertips and toes, worse a t night. sometimes transient pain in my wrists. They say vit B helps and glutamine. MY onc says it s normal and will prob go away it waxes and wanes. Prob be worse this weekend. some people also take neurontin.
  • meena1
    meena1 Member Posts: 1,003
    I had 12 treatments of Taxol
    I had 12 treatments of Taxol and i did have a little numbness, but it did go away after treatment. I just have a problem with the cold weather, it actually hurts to walk outside. I was also scared at everything that was going on, but you will find that you are stronger than you think. And as for your family and friends avoiding you, that happened to me also! I think it was because they thought they might have to do something for me, and they have such a busy life. I needed so much at the time, it was so overwhelming and they were not there for me. Still gets me upset, but this is 2010 and i can not hold a grudge.
    Remember that this is just temporary. You will feel beautiful again, and you will be healthy. Take care
  • newbiefromcananda
    newbiefromcananda Member Posts: 234
    wow.. I feel for you, I have
    wow.. I feel for you, I have not had the numbness ... but I just must say you are absolutely stunning..... I am sorry I cannot answer your question but just know that we all feel this way at times... I feel fat, bald ,,lonely and I guess this is normal..sad but normal... (((((BIG HUGS))))) Lisa xoxoxoxo
  • carkris
    carkris Member Posts: 4,553 Member

    wow.. I feel for you, I have
    wow.. I feel for you, I have not had the numbness ... but I just must say you are absolutely stunning..... I am sorry I cannot answer your question but just know that we all feel this way at times... I feel fat, bald ,,lonely and I guess this is normal..sad but normal... (((((BIG HUGS))))) Lisa xoxoxoxo

    I have learned to not focus
    I have learned to not focus on the people who could not be here. I focus on the ones who are. I think it is where they are in theor life and maturity. In the beginning it made me angry. If it was that they xcouldnt cope I forgave it. if it was meaness or selfishnes I learned their true colors and they were off the list. no loss.
  • crselby
    crselby Member Posts: 441
    Both people in the picture are gorgeous!
    I did not have chemo and cannot relate specifically to your fear of permanent numbness, only in general terms. I liked (and I hope you did too) hearing from some of the respondants that theirs eased up or disappeared after treatment. You have a good reason to feel afraid; your body is out of your control, not in a good way! Yikes! I hope the women on this board have given you courage and hope, but I hope you get some good, fast answers and action from your oncologist, too.

    As far as friends dropping you when they learn of your cancer... I joined Myspace after a young, distant cousin in Germany asked me to join it. Within 2 weeks my boyfriend of 3 years during college and grad school connected with me on it. We were writing back and forth via email every few months for almost a year. Our 40th high school reunion was this past summer and we were going to meet there. He planned to be without his wife, and it was looking like my husband didn't want to go. Starting to get dicey. But then I got breast cancer in June. The email when I told him about the cancer was the last time I heard from him! Hahahaha! I didn't go to the reunion because I wanted far more to take a vacation with my husband to Oregon for 3 weeks at that same time. The dates for it had gotten bumped due to surgery. So, good riddance. But I am sorry that I didn't see a few of my other old friends. Maybe at the 50th, and I will be a 10 year survivor then!

    Good luck to you, Kari, and please post again so we can know of your progress.
    ~~Connie~~
  • sallyf
    sallyf Member Posts: 33
    Numbness
    What a brave and amazing woman you are, Kari. If you can, forgive those who aren't there for you. I'm so glad you wrote to us all and I hope you have a local support group that you can go to for help. It's my understanding that the neuropathy CAN lessen over time. I'm pulling for you, girl! I start my TC chemo on Thursday.
    Holding you in my heart!
    Sally
  • sallyf
    sallyf Member Posts: 33
    Another chemo question
    This Thursday, I will start on a combo of taxotere/cytoxin every 3 weeks for 12 weeks. I guess it's normal to be scared. The surgery didn't scare me anywhere near as much. Plus, my oncologist told me I MIGHT have a reaction within the first 15-30 minutes of the infusion - like DIFFICULTY BREATHING!! Anyone else have that? I know I'll be OK, just wanted to get rid of some of the fear with your help : )
    Thanks, Sally
  • carkris
    carkris Member Posts: 4,553 Member
    sallyf said:

    Another chemo question
    This Thursday, I will start on a combo of taxotere/cytoxin every 3 weeks for 12 weeks. I guess it's normal to be scared. The surgery didn't scare me anywhere near as much. Plus, my oncologist told me I MIGHT have a reaction within the first 15-30 minutes of the infusion - like DIFFICULTY BREATHING!! Anyone else have that? I know I'll be OK, just wanted to get rid of some of the fear with your help : )
    Thanks, Sally

    I am on taxol but was told
    I am on taxol but was told the same thing. I got premeds decadron. pepcid and benadryl. I (knock on wood) have not had any issues. but I was VERY anxious as I have read that it can happen. So best wishes and hope its fine.
  • mickeymom
    mickeymom Member Posts: 117
    numbness
    I had 4 A/C and 4 Taxol treatments that finished up the end of September. I had numbness in my hands and feet that started right after the first Taxol treatment. Since chemo ended it has definately gotten better, but is still there. My hands and right foot have good days and bad days. Sometimes almost nothing, sometimes they hurt and don't work as well. My left foot rarely has any numbness now. Weird. It will get better and I think now I'm starting to get used to it because it doesn't bother me too much anymore. I took B6 vitamins and glutamine. I don't know if it worked or not, but this really does go away. I'll send positive thoughts your way!

    PS: You have a really beautiful smile!
  • mickeymom
    mickeymom Member Posts: 117
    sallyf said:

    Another chemo question
    This Thursday, I will start on a combo of taxotere/cytoxin every 3 weeks for 12 weeks. I guess it's normal to be scared. The surgery didn't scare me anywhere near as much. Plus, my oncologist told me I MIGHT have a reaction within the first 15-30 minutes of the infusion - like DIFFICULTY BREATHING!! Anyone else have that? I know I'll be OK, just wanted to get rid of some of the fear with your help : )
    Thanks, Sally

    adverse reactions
    I had Taxol and not Taxotere, but they both can have bad reactions but they are manageable. I had no reaction to Taxol on my first treatment - only dexadron and benedryl as premeds. On the second treatment, about 30 seconds after it started I had a terrible reaction. My nose stuffed up completely and my head and face got really hot and my face turned red. They stopped they flow of the Taxol and loaded me up with more steroids and then started it again and everything went fine. The same thing happened with the third treatment including a drop in my blood pressure. They did the same thing (stopped the flow of the Taxol - loaded me up with more steroids and benedryl) and everything was fine. For the last treatment they gave me so much benedryl before the treatment I practically slept through the whole thing but I had no reaction. After the first treatment they also slowed the flow down considerable which I think helped alot too. It took forever (7 hours all together for the whole treatment.) It is scary but the chemo nurses knew what to do to handle it. Good luck with the treatment!
  • Lee27
    Lee27 Member Posts: 5
    Numbness
    Hello All and Happy New Year!

    I'm new to these Boards...Just wanted to add my 2cents. I'm just over 2 1/2yrs. out and still have a bit of numbness in my toes. I too just watch when I purchase new shoes. As far as numbness in my arms, that happens if/when I find myself rolled over on my side while sleeping. So, I sleep with a ton of pillows to keep me upright. LOL I could be a commercial for bedding.

    Not to be too concerned with those that seem to abandon you. There are those that come forward to be there for you that you least expect. Those that do not come around are really saying they cannot cope. It is our responsibilit to teach them how we need to be treated. This includes interactions with the medical professionals too. Suggestions: Go to a support group where you can vent all you want where others understand. One of my Oncs has her clients attend just as she would write a prescription for her patients. She even follows-up to see how it is going.

    Hang in there.

    You are not alone!
    Lee27
  • pinkkari09
    pinkkari09 Member Posts: 877
    Thank you :)
    Thanks for all the great advice and information!! I truly love all of you!! My daughter is in my profile picture and she is the most amazing woman in the world :) She's 20 years old and going to college to be a clinical nurse practitioner. She has been by my side for every treatment, all tests, and all doc. appts. Not only is she a full time nursing student, she works full time as well. I don't know what I would do without her.
    The neuropathy is still pretty bad, I'm wearing out the "backspace" button on my laptop because I hit wrong keys a lot. As for allergic reactions to taxol I had one treatment where my face got really hot and they slowed the drip and I was fine. I get decadron, pepcid, and benedril before every dose and as soon as they put the benedril in I fall asleep within minutes. I sleep through every taxol treatment. I see the onc on Thursday and will update everyone as to what they are going to do, I only have 3 of 12 taxol left, maybe they will go to surgery. Thanks again!!
    Love and peace to all,
    Kari
  • scout5000
    scout5000 Member Posts: 94 Member
    neuropathy
    I had 4 A/C treatments, then 3 Taxols. I had to skip the last Taxol because of neuropathy, hearing loss, and colon swelling. It has been 5 months and my feet and fingers are still numb, hearing is better, colon is healed. I can't imagine going through all of the treatments you have been through, you are a trooper. Sending you positive energy.