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tat2granny
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December 25, 2009 - 1:15pm

I have been a smoker for at least 40 years! I know,,really bad. I have made up my mind that the best thing for me to do is to finally quit! I have a battle of fighting this bc,,so why not battle two things at once!! I KNOW I can beat this cancer,, so, I can also beat this stupid smoking. My boyfriend is quiting along with me. He says that he supports me in the cancer,, so he can support me thru the smoking. Thank God I have him,, he is a fighter just like me. I know all the healthy reasons to quit. And I know the more support I get the better. I was thinking about posting this on the lung cancer board,, but I don't have that! I have bc,, and I am sure some of you ladies out there have quit the same time you got bc.. Any advise will help more than you know. Thanks again for answering all my questions!

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Tux
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December 25, 2009 - 1:43pm

Hi, tat2--I have not had to take on the challenge of quitting smoking, but I am sure that many on the board have overcome this. The only advice that I would give would be to look for a support group--maybe through your local hospital--if you are the type of person who is helped by being around others with the same fight. (I know that I am, but I know that not everyone benefits from being in such a group.) Good luck in your fight against bc & nicotine!
Let us know how everything goes.

Best wishes for happy holidays...

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December 25, 2009 - 3:25pm

I am not sure what to say, part of me says to quit after your done with all the cancer stuff, but if you want to quit now, get yourself set up to the hilt! If you need patches, chantrix, gum get it. Get hot lemon tea to drink at night after a meal, it will help take your mind of a smoke while your trying to sip it. Get a long cinamon stick, when you have the urge you can gnaw on it. It doesn't fall apart and is real hard so you can grit your teeth when you need to . Plus you can carry it in your pocket. Have it ready at all times. Drink and drink all the liquids you can to get the nicotine out of your system. Keep confessing, I dont' smoke. Say it in the mirror, say it when you drink a cup of coffee, say it all day long. the more you confess something the more you will start to beleive it. If you have insurance, you really might try the chantrix, I did and it worked for me. I needed all the aids I could get my hands on. I was a professional quiter, I quit hundreds of times, I was really good at it. And last but not least, pray, dont' beg, pray and thank God you can do it!!! I hope you keep me posted on how your doing, with your treatments and not smoking, Cheers to you on both battles, you will and can claim victory! Mary

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December 25, 2009 - 6:47pm

Hello and welcome!

I too am a 40 year smoker, and I quit 10 weeks ago! I never thought that I could quit, and the fear of trying is what kept me making excuses for a long time.
My docs all said to wait until I had finished most of my treatment for bc, before trying to quit, as battling breast cancer is somewhat STRESSFUL!! And trying to quit then would have surely ended in failure.

So I waited. Then, I armed myself with nicotine gum and a resolve to quit for good. And it has worked!
I don't miss smoking and honestly, rarely even think about it now. i guess I was just ready.

The fact that your boyfriend is quitting with you...well, talk about a good support system! Bless his heart for doing this with you.

My very best advice is don't be afraid to use a "crutch" for awhile, whether it's gum, patch or prescription med. And if you do slip, remember that it's not uncommon to do so. Don't feel defeated! Just start again.

I wish you the very best of luck, and I KNOW that if I can quit....ANYONE can quit!

Hugs and encouragement to you!

CR

roseann4
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December 25, 2009 - 7:07pm

Smoking is a real challenge. My sister quit 4 years ago after decades of smoking. I know people who have had great luck with hypnosis. Otherwise, I think you need to replace the habit with something. Whenever you would normally have a smoke, you need to have something else you do. Remember the actor who walked around with a lollypop.

Please don't beat yourself up about being hooked on cigs. They design them that way. I'm proud of you for taking control of your life. You and your boyfriend should put the money you save in a BIG jar and do something fun with it once you are out of the woods with this thing. It could be big bucks.

Good luck.

Roseann

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December 25, 2009 - 9:24pm

I quit smoking about 17 years ago now and both my husband and me were 2 pack a day smokers. We did the group hypnosis. Never had another smoke. However, its still not easy because of the habit part. I chewed on straws. You know like after the cup of coffee or getting in the car, on the phone, with a drink.It can be done. Good luck

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December 25, 2009 - 7:40pm

Hi, tat! I have read a couple of your posts and I'm so sorry that you need to be here, but having breast cancer and battling this disease... this is the place that can help. I haven't been posting much because of getting ready for Christmas and being exhausted at day's end.

I was diagnosed in June of this year. I am 2 treatments away from the end. Like you, I wanted to immediately get rid of cigarettes. Although I've been told they are not likely the cause, I thought why continue smoking when I know how terrible it is for my life and all the horrible diseases they cause. I tried several times to stop only to pick up another pack within a day or two after being totally determined I would do it 'this' time. My PCP prescribed Chantix but told me I should check with my oncologist. He said he didn't have a problem with it but when I questioned if he had any other 'chemo' patients that went on it, he said he didn't believe he did and said 'on 2nd thought' he didn't want to throw a wrench into something that was going along so well. My blood counts have been excellent until now and I've had minimal to no side effects. I have a box of patches that I've stuck on the few times I've tried, and I'm planning again to try to give it up for my new year's resolution. I've always wanted a nostalgic date to go along with my 'quit date' and thought hmmm... 01-01-10 sounds like a good one, lol. So I'll try again.

I'm sorry I can't be of help in giving guidance to quitting, but I do know that it can't hurt to keep trying. If you fail, try again, and know that I'm here to understand how difficult it is. Hopefully, we will one day (very soon) be non-smokers on our way to a loooong and healthy new life!

You're very fortunate to have such a supportive partner! I read his note on your expressions page and think it's a blessing you have him in your life in your time of need. I wish you the best of luck and please keep posting. I will continue to pray for our success!

Hugs ~ Mar

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December 25, 2009 - 7:51pm

One thing that is supposed to help is to change up things you do when you smoke. Like if you have a cup of coffee first thing in the morning with a cigarette, skip the coffe, take your shower, eat your breakfast. Just do things differently. This is supposed to be very effective with those "key" cigarettes we have. If you do out and have a smoke right after eating, then go do the dishes, take a walk, read a book, something that changes your patterns because patterns play a big part in our smoking. If you work and have a cigarette at your break time at 10, take you break at 10:30 and go for a walk. These are little things and they won't work all alone but they can help. When I quit I put my cigarettes on the top of the frig. Every time I thought about having one I said I won't have one right now, but in 10 minutes, and after 10 minutes I said 10 minutes again. Each day that I didn't smoke I make the time longer. After two weeks, I threw the cigarettes away. That was about 28 years ago. It can be done. ANd if you slip, then just start over. No guilt, just know that it is hard and that you can succeed.
Stef

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December 26, 2009 - 1:13pm

Wow Stef~ that is pretty much exactly what I did to stop smoking also 28 years ago! I quit one cigarette at a time too! I figured if I didn't smoke This One, I wouldn't smoke the Next One! And so on, and so on!!! And lo and behold, it worked! Quitting one month at a time didn't work; once I picked up a cigarette after 27 or so days and felt like a failure. But one smoke at a time? That I could and did do!

Hugs,
Chen♥

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December 26, 2009 - 1:53pm

I was told that sunflower seeds replace the need for Nicotene. Hope this helps. Jxx

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December 26, 2009 - 4:19pm

And if they don't, you can always spit a big wad of wet, chewed up sunflower seeds at the nearest person who pisses you off while you are having a nicotine fit! Sorry...I don't know where that came from! LOL (perhaps I am channeling Tasha????)

Hugs,
Chen♥

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December 26, 2009 - 8:46pm

Chen

We do have so much in common. And OMG, I laughed out loud at the sight of spitting out the sunflower seeds. That could work well for the stupid things people say about our cancers too. And the channeling Tasha, so funny. Yes that is difinitely something she would say. I love it. And yes, the one cigarette at a time is the best way I think to quit. Just like facing cancer, one step, one treatment, one moment at a time and then you look around and it's all done and you are on the mend.
Stef

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December 28, 2009 - 12:22am

Good luck to you in quitting smoking.

Megan

Katz77
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December 26, 2009 - 4:37pm

I too am a professionl smoker. Getting my master plan under way. I'm also a professional quitter. I can't take Chantix, makes me angry. Going w Wellbutrin, hypnosis, and patches. New combo or me. Right now I'm changing up habits, ie phone, car computer etc. Docs told me wait till treatments are over, and for me that's probably good. Plan to do alot of hard walking too. Angry walking. lol Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. Good luck. Maybe we canbe smoker buddies. Kind of like AA ;)

madcat
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December 26, 2009 - 5:49pm

Some tips from AA can also help with smoking. Here are a few things I did the last time I quit ... Yes I am smoking again ... I re-started right after having my kids (LOL).

Re-wire your thinking. Instead of saying I can't ... say I choose not to. (Silly, but it makes a big difference.)

Say I CHOOSE not to have this cigarette for 10 minutes (5 minutes, 1 minute, 30 seconds, whatever it takes.)

Smoking in the car was a big one and I was stuck twice a day for an hour in the car. I went as far as putting a cigarette in my hand but not lighting it. I rode with the window down and my hand out the window as usual. I said I would wait for ## time and I found that just the act of holding the cigarette took the urge away. The next day I held a pen like the cigarette. It helped. It was the habits, not the nicotene, that made it so hard to quit. I kept a bag of chocolate kisses, and several different flavors of chewing gum with me at all times. I used the nicorette gum for two days and switched to the regular gum. After a few weeks I was sick of gum and quit that too. The kisses (only 1 at a time) were allowed to melt in my mouth so it would take more time and allow the urge to pass.

Anyway ... I have found that the BIGGEST problem with quitting anything is the thought that you CAN'T have something combined with my rebellious nature (Oh yes I can). You also need to only concentrate on right now because if you say forever your rebellious nature will kick in. So the simple step of saying "I can have it but I CHOOSE not to have it right now" is the best solution I have to offer.

Good Luck ...

DianeBC
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December 27, 2009 - 1:21am

I guess I figured that I was fighting one cancer, why did I want another one, meaning lung cancer. That was a huge motivation. Good luck to you! I know it isn't easy.

Hugs, Diane ♥

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February 4, 2010 - 12:29pm

I just figured everyone else seemed so strong, they couldn't possibly be smokers like me. I've been smoking for 30 years. I had head/neck cancer about a year and a half ago and now I have bc. I figure I'm a walking target for lung cancer next. But I'm such a wuss, I wasn't even sure how to begin quitting. With everyone's candid comments and suggestions, I feel like I just may have a chance at quitting after all, cuz now have some great advice from people who were just like me and walked the walk. Thanks for not making me feel all alone in this battle.

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February 4, 2010 - 12:45pm

We may have always been nice, inquisitive, ornery, intelligent, shy, bold, rich, poor or something inbetween, married, single, straight, gay, kids, no kids vegetarians, carnivores~ fill in the blank! But we didn't know strength until we stood up to do battle with the Beast! So, yeah, we also smoke and drink, and are...Human!!!!

I hope the hints/suggestions, coupled with the positive vibes from your sisters here on the boards give all who want to quit the extra boost! You are surrounded by Kindred Spirits who are pulling for you!!!

Hugs,
Chen♥

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February 4, 2010 - 12:48pm

And...when your lungs thank you by clearing up, and all of the cilia are free and moving, and your energy level surprises you, you can change your username to PinkRoze! LOL LOL I couldn't help it, sorry! :-)

Hugs,
Chen♥

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February 5, 2010 - 7:19am

I like it! =) If you start seeing that name, you'll know I've finally done it!!! LOL

Elaine

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February 4, 2010 - 12:39pm

I haven't smoked in 36 years so I'm no help, but I just wanted to say I am proud of you! You go; I know you can do it!

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February 4, 2010 - 1:58pm

Notice I didn't say "quit"? I have never quit, I just havent' had a cigarette in 24 years. When I stopped having cigs I didn't tell a soul except my husband...and you know what? No one noticed I wasn't smoking. That way, if I relented and had a cigarette I wouldn't get flack from people and feel like a failure. I carried cigarette's with me for a couple of months and then on Easter I had an argument with my hubby and had 3 cigarette's in a row and spent the rest of the afternoon laying down cause I was sick. I quit carying them in my purse.

Back then, we still partied very hardy and had lots of cocktails and spent time in our favorite pubs etc and of course that's where I could smoke triple my normal amount so instead I started playing with bar straws, one in each hand and it worked. For me and many smokers it's the act of doing something in your hands that's a big part of the habit. I have read just recently that we get over the nicotine withdrawl in the first 10 days and then we are left with the habit of the whole ritual of pulling out the cigarette case, lighting up, watching the smoke etc. I chewed sugarless bubble gum and blew lots of bubbles, keeps your mouth busy. I did slip a couple of times but because I hadn't "quit" I didn't get all bent out of shape (like when you fall off your diet and say to heck with it until next Monday). We didn't have all the "helpers" back then so we had to be inventive and create our own "helpers". To this day I play with straws, it's fun.

You have to really want to stop smoking or else you will not be successful, so be honest with yourself. Do you really want to quit or do you just know you should quit. Two different animals. It took me five years to actually get in position to stop. It's funny, I didn't even have a "last" cigarette, I just said to myself "How long can you go without one?"

You can do this, this is a difficult time to try this while you're in treatment unless smoking makes you sick right now and then it's a great time. You'll be surprised how short of a time it will take for you to not be able to stand the smell of someone ele's cigarette. I live in Michigan and we are going smoke free May 1 and I can hardly wait!!!!!

Good luck and we are all here with hints and encouragement. As they say "Never stop stopping". You really will feel better both physically and mentally. And no one will be shooting you dirty looks when your in public either.

Hugs, Judy :-)

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February 4, 2010 - 4:57pm

Your post from about 6 weeks ago, hopefully has you progressing into being a non~smoker. One little tip I could share is when my father quit smoking he used black licorice to pop in his mouth when he craved a cigarette~the strong anise taste really did something to help him. It comes in small bite sized pieces.
Hope your doing good!!

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February 5, 2010 - 7:29am

The "do you really want to quit or do you just know you should quit" comment is pretty much where I am. I just know I should quit. And, yes, I think there is a huge difference, too. I think I'm going to read up on all the nasty things it does to your body to maybe get my mind in a place where I really want to quit. Can't hurt, might help!

Elaine

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February 5, 2010 - 10:30am

I, too, was a lifelong smoker...30+ years. I stopped twice, when I was pregnant; however, once I stopped breast feeding, I would start with "just one cigarette" and before I knew it, I was a full-time smoker again. I even went so far as to be the caregiver for my mother who had COPD. She passed away 3-1/2 years ago as a result of smoking. Several of my aunts and uncles on her side of the family died before their 55th birthday's due to emphysema and/or COPD. Well, when I was diagnosed with breast cancer, 6/09, I came to the realization that I wanted to give my body every change I could to kick this beast in the arse. I decided that the one vice I had that was a possible cause of breast cancer was smoking and I needed to quit...once and for all!! I went so far as to "set the date". I picked the day after my 55th birthday, June 29th. For some reason, I felt like I needed a "special" day to do this. So, on June 28th, my birthday, I smoked all day knowing that this was it. When I got up on the 29th, I put on a nicotine patch. I really didn't want to wear the patch because I knew I was still having nicotine going into my body, but I also wanted to be successful, so I wore it. I had my lumpectomy scheduled for July 7th and was advised by my surgeon that I could not have the patch on during the surgery. So, that morning I went to the hospital without the patch. I have never put one on again. I am proud to say that I have been smoke-free for 7 months. Unfortunately, I do have a husband that quit WITH me but he only lasted 77 days and went back to smoking. He is very considerate though and doesn't smoke around me. He is now saying that he is tired of smoking and wants to try to quit again. He asks me how I did it so easily. I told him that it wasn't easy but when I had a doctor tell me I had cancer that made all the difference in the world for me. I know it's not a cure for everyone but wanted to share my story and reasons for quitting. I can validate what Chen said and say that I have noticed a BIG difference in my stamina while exercising now. I have done Jazzercise for years and for those of you not familiar with it, it is a mixture of aerobic, yoga, pilates, and strength training done for 60 minutes. It is an exercise that you do at your pace, either low impact or high impact. I used to do a lot of the routines low impact but since I quit smoking, I can now exercise high impact through the entire class. I'm not tooting my horn, just hopefully giving some HOPE and incentive to those trying to quit. It really is possible, just takes a lot of truly wanting to kick the habit. If we can beat this beast called breast cancer....we can beat the beast called smoking. Good luck to those of you out there trying to quit. You can do it!!!!!

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February 4, 2010 - 11:53pm

Just want to wish you good luck in stopping smoking. I know it is hard, but, you can do it!

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February 5, 2010 - 7:34am

How are things? Good, bad, or indifferent -- I'd love to hear what's happening in your quest to stop smoking . . .

Elaine

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February 5, 2010 - 8:23am

You are so right about reading up on the effects on your body...I almost forgot, during those 5 years it took me to get in position to quit I would lite up, take a drag and then say to myself "Is this the cigarette that will kill me?" "Is this the cigarette that will give my cancer?" "Is this the cigarette that will cause the doctor to say you have inoperable lung cancer?" After a few years of this I scared myself into not smoking. My chest would actually hurt when I lit up and I would put it out. A couple of people have said that was horrible, but you what? It worked (for me).

Now if I could just quit eating and start exercising....

Good luck you guys, you'll make it. Keep us up to date on your progress. And don't be ashamed, many of us were in your shoes once. It's not easy, but you are fighting the Beast and you are much stronger than you think, you can fight the tobacco Beast tool.

Hugs, Judy :-)

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February 7, 2010 - 5:41pm

When I had my last cigarette, I tried saying "Is this the cigarette that's going to give me cancer? Is this the one that's going to kill me?" Let me tell you, that was a really uncomfortable feeling. Scares the heck out of you. You really don't enjoy the cigarette as much as usual. I finally just stopped saying it, I was so uncomfortable. Stupid, I know, but as I said before, I'm still wrestling with the idea of quiting because I want to OR quitting because I need to -- two totally different animals. Pray for me, everybody, to do the right thing!

Elaine

Victoria63
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February 5, 2010 - 1:05pm

I went on the Nicoderm step down patch and only needed step 1. I did allow myself to have my weak moments but after a while I just didn't even crave them and when I thought I did they didn't taste good so I told my self "I just don't do that anymore" I know it sounds silly but it worked for me.
You can do it. I never thought I could and it's been 9 weeks for me now.
Good Luck!

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February 6, 2010 - 12:58pm

Glad that Nicoderm patch worked for you Victoria! A success story!

Angie

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February 7, 2010 - 6:14pm

Worked for me, too (I'm usually on the lung/brain cancer boards), after my third try, and I had to start at the highest level, think it's three. This was 7 or 8 years ago, before my whole brain radiation - lots of things I don't remember well :) But yeah. it took me three re-starts, so don't give up just because you started smoking again - just decide to quit again! And maybe I would have had an even easier time of it if I had been taking Xanax then, something to think about.

Luck and Perseverance to you, tat2granny

Deb

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February 8, 2010 - 12:47am

Congrats to you Deb for quitting! You can do it too tat2granny!

Hugs, Leeza

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February 8, 2010 - 7:46am

I, too, have been a smoker for 40 years. Before the diagnosis of breast cancer I had quit for about 6 months. The day I was diagnosed I bought a pack of cigarettes and the rest is history. Told my doctor about that and he said it was understandable. I've been taking Chantix now and have been off for 6 weeks.

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February 8, 2010 - 9:32am

Tat,
I am a smoker also. I finished my chemo on Dec 22nd. My Dr told me not to try to quit until I was done with treatment. So, on Jan 3rd I tried to quit. I have the chantix, and that REALLY does help with the urge to smoke. It is the habit cigs, the bored cigs that are REALLY hard. However, I will admit, that I started to smoke a few a day. On Jan 6th I was fired from my job for of 10 years. It was unjustified and I am so hurt. My husband has been out of work for 2 years and I was carrying the family with my income and insurance. I feel VERY guilty about smoking. I know I need to quit, for all the health reasons and the money reasons. I just need to get back to the...I CAN DO THIS mind set. I will keep you in my prayers....you can do it. HUGS!