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carol41
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September 15, 2009 - 3:30am

Tomorrow I will have the last of 35 radiation treatments. My onc wants me to go on
Femara. Has anyone had experience with this? I'm just so tired of being tired. I
have already done the adria/cyclo and taxol chemo and have been at this since my
dianosis in May of 2008. Are there any side effects??

m_azingrace
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September 15, 2009 - 4:32pm

Dr. started me on Femara about 2 weeks ago. So far the side affects have been minimal...hot flashes mostly. However, Femara does weaken the bones, so he's also going to start me on a monthly infusion of something like Zometa. That also causes side affects in some people, so I will be monitored closely for kidney function. There's a down side to everything. I've known a couple of other people who are taking Femara, and they are doing great with it. I take one pill a day.

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Akiss4me
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September 15, 2009 - 7:07pm

Sorry I don't have info on the Femara (I'm taking Tamoxifen) but wanted to say congrats on your last Rad treatment tomorrow. I know what you mean about being tired of being tired. It does SLOWLY get better, so set your sights on that next phase! Pammy

sgamtd
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September 15, 2009 - 10:20pm

Carol, I also want to say congratulations on finishing radiation. I will start radiation next week, be done early november and also was told I should take femara for 5 years.
I hope many survivors that have been using it for a long will post and let you and us know how they are doing, I have osteoporosis already, a t score of -3.63, have been taking fosamax for years, and my onco doc suggested reclast IV (a yearly dose I think)since I am not improving anymore on the fosamax, but at least not getting any worse either.
I have until early november to read up on the femara and reclast, and plan to, both have side effects, alas they can be helpful too. Sure wish more of these treatments came with GUARANTEES, lol.
You have had a long time in treatment, I can understand you are tired of being tired, but hang in there, someone will post and let us know what to expect. Did the onc mention the improved percentage in surviving bc if you took femara ? Mine would actually only improve 1%, therefore I am still undecided. Good luck to you
sgamtd

carol41
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September 16, 2009 - 1:59pm

Thanks for all your imput and encouragement . . . my doc said that for me he preferred Femara.
The downside is that it is quite a bit more expensive if my insurance doesn't cover. Canada Drugs has it for about half price if they won't and an even cheaper generic. There is no generic here in the states.
Had a bone density test about 3 years ago and I do have good bones. He scheduled me for another test next month, but since I am still the same height as in high school, I'm thinking that for my age (68) it should be fine. The hot flashes are another issue . . . maybe they will stop before I turn 90!! Chemo and rads really get your hormones raging.
Sgamtd, hope they will find an answer for your osteoporosis. In the meantime, stay off of ladders and rooftops!!!

sgamtd
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September 16, 2009 - 8:40pm

Carol41, lol, I never get up on the roof, the ladder only when my husband is standing right there holding on to me firmly. Osteo arrived in my life in 1993, I am now 68, have lost 2.5 inches in height, so I have to be careful what meds I take due to the osteo.
I never did have hot flashes, probably because I was prescribed HRT in 93 for the osteo, stopped the HRT in 2002 or so, like alot of women did, and started the fosamax, calcium w/d which I have been on ever since. For sure all meds have a side effect, and may times we are left wondering if it's really worth it. I have never had a fracture due to the osteo.
sgamtd

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HillBillyNana
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October 2, 2009 - 8:06pm

I have been checking the price of the Femara and also the generic (letrozole). One company in Canada has the generic pric of 90 pills for $155.70 and the brand name Femara is 90 pills for $490. I am going to check tomorrow and see if my insurance even covers it and what my co-pay would be if I have to get the brand name here in the U.S. I appreciate the info here on Femara. another 6 weeks and I will be starting it.

arbojenn
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September 16, 2009 - 7:23pm

I was just told today that my onc wants me stay on Femara for the rest of my life! (I am 58.) I'll do it for five years then see. (I stopped after five years of tamoxifen and ONE year of Femara the first time. I'll give the Femara at least FIVE this time.) Anybody else advised to plan on making aromatose inhibitors a lifetime partner?

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alessia
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October 2, 2009 - 12:23pm

hi, i've read on this website that taking femara beyond the five years does nothing.
it's the first five years that are important! look up femara on the american cancer society treatment options. good luck.

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HillBillyNana
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October 2, 2009 - 8:07pm

I wonder why my oncologist would want me to take the Femara after I have taken Tamoxifen for 5 years. I will look it up. Maybe I don't even need to take it?

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October 23, 2010 - 6:01pm

Your oncologist probably wants to give you more protection since you had several other female cancer (on your bio site) besides breast cancer. It's added protection often given today to avoid the possibility of being stage IV.

Best,

Doris

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lanie940
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September 16, 2009 - 8:17pm

Fosamax did nothing for me but give me acid reflux. So now I'm taking Aciphex. I stopped taking the Fosamax last Fall.

m_azingrace
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September 16, 2009 - 8:38pm

I'm a little confused...They aren't the same, are they?

sgamtd
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September 16, 2009 - 8:43pm

M_azinggrace,
One of Femara's side effect is bone loss, so if you already have osteo it not good for the bones but good for treating the ER + breast cancer. So one has a choice to make.
Hope this helps
sgamtd

carol41
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September 17, 2009 - 4:28am

M_azinggrace (love the name),
Fosimax is for osteoporosis.
Tamoxifen and Femara are estrogen inhibitors (so I've been told)
Your pathology report will tell you if you are ER+ and one or the other is usually
prescribed for 5 years after you finish all the other therapies. I'm ready to do
whatever it takes never to have to do this again!!

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alessia
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October 2, 2009 - 12:26pm

hi, can you tell me if you did rads and femara concurrently? or did you start taking femara after the rads treatment.
i will be starting radiation treatment in a few weeks and was also prescribed femara at the same time. i wonder if i could start the meds after the rads to hopefully avoid double side effects! thanks.

sgamtd
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October 2, 2009 - 6:33pm

Hi Alessia, I'm sorry I can't answer that question, maybe someone can. I hope so. Mostly from what I read others have done, they started after radiation.
I am currently taking radiation treatments, just finished # 10, have 23 more to go, and am scheduled to start femara in November when I go back to the onco doctor. I happen to have osteoporosis, so before I start femara, the onco doc wants to give me an IV infusion of an bone builder medication called reclast first, and then she said she will prescribe the femara. I was told for 5 years. Maybe I just had to wait because I have osteo.
Again, I hope someone can answer your question, of course you could also ask the doctor why ?
Good luck
sgamtd

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Akiss4me
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October 3, 2009 - 6:56am

This is a question you will definitely want to clarify with your Rads Onc and Med Onc. I was given my script for Tamoxifen but was told to hold off taking it until after my Radiation was completed. I think it depends on your individual treatments. So please ask prior to starting the Femara if you already have it filled. Keep us posted. Pammy

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November 17, 2009 - 10:22pm

I am on a slightly different aromatase inhibitor (arimidex)--very similar to femara. I did have rads while on the arimidex. I didn't notice any big side effects. A little queasiness from the radiation (didn't have that with radiation before but this time they had to zap part of my liver in order to treat my ribs). The arimidex made me tired if I took it in the am, so I switched to pm and have been good to go. Everyone is different though.

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mgm42
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October 2, 2009 - 7:53pm

I started on Femara three days ago after a year and half on Arimidex, and a brief bout with Aromasin. So far, so good. No side effects. I already have some joint stiffness and muscle spasms so I can't blame the Femara for those things. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I know how important it is to inhibit the estrogen in my system. Oh - I will be checking with my oncologist this Monday and will find out about Zometa for me. So far, my bone density has been good (normal). I'm 67. We'll see what she tells me about Boniva, Fosamax, and/or Zometa. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF US. Hugs, Marilynn

ohilly
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October 3, 2009 - 7:26am

Marilynn, I am keeping my fingers crossed for you about the Femara!

Good luck,

Ohilly

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HillBillyNana
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October 9, 2009 - 9:54pm

Hi marilynn, i have been wondering about your and the Femara. How is it going? I know it is probably too soon to tell, but December is getting closer. What about the Zometa? Hope you have no bad side effects from the Femara.

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HillBillyNana
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November 17, 2009 - 10:10pm

Marilyn, just wondered how the femara is affecting you. I havne't been on here for a while. I am going to get a baseline bone scan friday. Then I am supposed to start the femara December 4. I have been reading and reading and hoping I don't have the side effects that some have had such as hair thinning and joint pain. Please let me know how you are doing. Anybody else that can help me decide about this Femara please I would appreciate it. I am 64. I took tamoxifen for 5 years after finishing 6 months of chemo and 6 weeks of radiation. I am not taking anything right now. Just wanted to be 'drug free' for a while. Now I wonder how much it will help me to take the Femara. Or will it? Thanks for any input. Inez

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lanie940
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November 18, 2009 - 6:16am

Watch it if you take fosamax, I swear that I got GERD from it. I had been on it for almost 4 years though before I realized I was getting more and more frequent indigestion!

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mgm42
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October 2, 2009 - 9:30pm

Hey, girlfriends. To find the least expensive places to purchase Femara, Arimidex or their generic equivalents, use www.pharmacychecker.com. This site will give you the names and profiles of several oversees drug companies from which you can order your meds, including the price as well as shipping costs. This site is a good resource. When I was on Arimidex, my prescription was from a New Zealand company. They were professional in the way they conducted their pharmacy business and had great customer service. I use pharmacychecker.com for all of my prescription drug cost comparisons. P. S. Aromasin has no generic equivalant.

Hope this is helpful. Hugs, Marilynn

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lanie940
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October 3, 2009 - 8:30am

We have to use Express Scripts with my husband's insurance. For long term use, anyway. I use CVS for short use. I already checked up on Arimidex and Femara. Both are 80.00 for 90 days. My Aciphex I take for acid reflux is also 80.00 for 90 days. So, by what i'm reading 80.00 for 90 days isn't too bad. Good luck with Femara. I'm hoping i'll be able to tolerate the Arimidex!

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November 17, 2009 - 10:26pm

I've been on Femara now for 2 months, being used to reduce my tumors so I can have surgery. I haven't noticed too much in the way of side effects, mostly just night sweats. My onc said I'll be on Femara for 5 years so I'm sure I'll have to watch for bone loss. I have osteopenia, so already at risk. So far my onc has been given me samples of Femara since I'm in the donut hole with my insurance. I'm going to ask about the generic. Since Aciphex is expensive my dr. told me to try Omeprozole, which you can find otc.
Arimidex and Femara are used to suppress the estrogen level. I will find out Thursday if there is any reduction in my tumors.

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natly15
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November 18, 2009 - 7:07am

Sunrae when you get out of the donut hole, check what your copay would be with an RX for omeprozole (prilosec). I think I paid $20 for otc, and copay of $10 with RX.

Wishing you a good report on thursday. please let us know how it turns out. By the way, your backyard garden should be called the serenity garden. It is beautiful. Sending hugs and prayers your way.

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November 18, 2009 - 3:35pm

Natly, my primary gave me a prescription for Omeprozole and its cost was $40 for 30 pills. I bought it otc and got 42 for about $20. If you watch the drug stores put it on sale and if you can find it at a wholesale store its even cheaper. I try to pay otc as much as I can because it keeps me out of the donut hole somewhat. My primary gives me samples of Aciphex when I'm there, but its only for a month or so. Thanks for your comments on my garden. That's my passion; it keeps me busy but I love it.

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November 19, 2009 - 12:49am

I've been on Tamoxefin till today. I saw my oncologist who told me that the results of the blood test to determine if I was metabolizing the Tamoxefin showed an intermediate result. He told me that that result is very confusing because it doesn't really tell us how much effect I'm getting from the meds, so I'm starting Arimidex tomorrow. I'm supposed to check with my insurance to see how much the copay is going to be and if it's too much they'll put me on Femera or Aromasin, which ever is the most cost effective. I had a bone density test last fall which showed that I have had some bone loss, but I'm on Zometa as part of a trial study and I'm supposed to up the amount of calcium and vitamin D3 while I'm on this. Anyway, I hope I don't have any bad side-effects from this. Tamoxefin didn't cause me any problems, not even hot flashes (maybe that's because I wasn't metabolizing much). It's all such an adventure! Whoopee!!! We need to keep posting with how we're doing. Connie

New Flower
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November 19, 2009 - 2:38am

Can you explain about your results with Tamoxifen test.I an going to ask my oncologist about this test on my next visit.

I also have question to everyone. Do do you or your oncologist choose between Femara Arimidex, and Aromasin.

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November 19, 2009 - 12:17pm

The CYP2D6 blood test will let you know if you'r metabolizing the Tamoxifen or not. The results will comeback as positive, intermediate, or negative. My results came back intermediate, which basically means that they don't know how much benefit I'm getting from the meds, so that's why they changed me to Arimidex. They gave me Arimidex to begin with, but they want me to check with my insurance to see which one of the three meds would be the cheapest for me. I suppose I'll be on the onet hat is the most economical for me. They all the same class of medicine and work the same way. As far as the CYP2D^ blood test, I'm glad I had the test, because I wouldn't want to be taking Tamoxifen for two years and not having it do much. Hope this helps. Connie

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November 19, 2009 - 12:17pm

The CYP2D6 blood test will let you know if you'r metabolizing the Tamoxifen or not. The results will comeback as positive, intermediate, or negative. My results came back intermediate, which basically means that they don't know how much benefit I'm getting from the meds, so that's why they changed me to Arimidex. They gave me Arimidex to begin with, but they want me to check with my insurance to see which one of the three meds would be the cheapest for me. I suppose I'll be on the onet hat is the most economical for me. They all the same class of medicine and work the same way. As far as the CYP2D^ blood test, I'm glad I had the test, because I wouldn't want to be taking Tamoxifen for two years and not having it do much. Hope this helps. Connie

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November 19, 2009 - 9:50am

I am on the Zometa infusion, too, and haven't had much trouble with it. I do take 2000 IU of Vitamin D a day along with a Calcium/Magnesium supplement. Have you had a Vitamin D test done? Mine was insufficient, so my doc. recommended the highest over-the-counter dose for me. The one serious potential side effect of Zometa are jaw problems, so you might want to get a good dental check up before you start.

As for metabolizing Tamoxifen, it's an important test to ask your doc. about, New Flower. You can be a poor, intermediate, or high metabolizer depending on your genetic makeup. It would be a shame to keep taking the drug if you are a poor metabolizer. Your doc. would probably switch you to an AI in that case.

Mimi

m_azingrace
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November 19, 2009 - 10:37am

Connie, are you taking Zometa in the daily pill form, or getting the monthly infusion? The reason I asked is because my onc told me that the pills are not nearly as effective...but he didn't elaborate on the degree of difference. I get the infusion, and except for the first one, I have little to no side effects. As someone else mentioned, Zometa can cause a condition called "osteonecrosis of the jaw"...the bone dies. So you would definately want to have a complete dental exam with x-rays, and a cleaning. And then if you need dental work done, get it all finished and be healed before beginning the zometa treatments. My dr was very careful about that, and was relieved to know that I'd just been to the dentist and was okay. I hope all goes well for you. Hugs, Gracie

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November 19, 2009 - 12:23pm

I'm on the monthly infusion. I just completed the first six months of the study and know will have the infusion on a quarterly basis. I had to have a dental exam before I was able to begin the study and I have one every six months anyway. Yes, they were very careful about the dental thing before I began the Zometa, also. I haven't had any problems with it other than a few bone aches and pains. I'm glad I'm on the study. I figure anything like this can only be good. Connie

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November 19, 2009 - 12:23pm

I'm on the monthly infusion. I just completed the first six months of the study and know will have the infusion on a quarterly basis. I had to have a dental exam before I was able to begin the study and I have one every six months anyway. Yes, they were very careful about the dental thing before I began the Zometa, also. I haven't had any problems with it other than a few bone aches and pains. I'm glad I'm on the study. I figure anything like this can only be good. Connie

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November 19, 2009 - 3:27pm

prior to the start of Tamoxifen. I am still surprised why he did not check before prescribed it.
My next visit is scheduled for NOV 30, I am going to ask.
We have been doing D and Calcium., and yes my levels were low and I am taking 2000 IU of D3 and daily Ca/Mg supplement as well.

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November 19, 2009 - 5:03pm

See my thread called "Good News from my Onc" posted today.. The Femara is working well but I don't know how the cost stacks up with other aromatase inhibitors. Hope the rest of you are having good results.

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October 23, 2010 - 6:22pm

As far as I know only Arimidex has gone generic. Femara and Aromasin have not gone that way nor has Faslodex. Tamoxifen has been on the market for years so it to has a generic equivalent.

SIROD

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October 23, 2010 - 6:18pm

Hi New Flower,

I don't think that Tamo has the same effects as the Aromatase Inhibitors (Arimedex, Aromasin, Femara). Tamoxifen and Faslodex both given to ER/PR+ have a different make up than the AI. They all are the target treatments for hormonal positive breast cancer, but they don't all work the same or have the same side effects.

Best to you,

SIROD

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October 23, 2010 - 6:14pm

I've been on Femara 19 months and my biggest side effect is bone and joint pain. I have other medical conditions that make this side effect a living hell for me. It is doing the job of keeping my stage IV cancer stable. I still have tumors that like to hang out in my lungs and pleura but they are hibernating. So, I take the pill daily and give them eviction notices that are ignore. That's ok with me, "Stable" is a great word.

One of my medical conditions doesn't allow me to take bisphosphonates (Zometa, Aredia and etc.). I risk bone fractures. While using Arimidex, I fell, didn't hurt myself but did manage to have 3 compression fractures in the vertebrae. If on Femara, your doctor should give you something to make your bones stronger. Estrogen depletion is a serious issue with aromatase inhibitors. Vaginal dryness is another problem. I used a product called "Estring" while on Arimidex. My oncologist doesn't want me to use it this time. I do have minor hot flashes, but with everything else wrong with me, it is a non-issue in my case.

To avoid being tired, I take my pill at bed time. When I took the pill in the morning, a few hours later, I felt like falling asleep.

Good luck to you, Carol.

SIROD