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I have lost all taste for sugar and all bread products taste like a was of flour. Can any one tell me how long this lasts. I have had 3 chemo and 35 radiation treatments.

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delnative
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I don't think anyone can answer that question for you: Everyone's experience is different.
FWIW, I lost most of my sense of taste once I finished the radiation treatments (and the radiation was finishing with me) but it came back within a month or two.
Now, 11 months later, almost everything tastes pretty much like it used to, with one exception: Cognac, which I used to enjoy, now tastes like cough syrup. But that's OK. It's expensive anyway.

--Jim in Delaware

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Jim, you are wonderful!! I love the post about getting your taste back - your attitude is terrific!

I wish my brother was as positive. His attitude is not so great. He has four more rad treatments and is experiencing dry mouth and a lot of mucuous. He drinks water constantly so I'm not really worried about hydration, would not get a PEG tube and can barely get Instant Breakfast down so I'm worried about nutrition. He is reluctant to try different foods. I hope he will recover well. Guess the only thing to do is take it day by day.

All of you guys are great and I am so thankful to have your info. Jim, I wonder if cough syrup would taste like Cognac?

Take care all of you!

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Well that certainly would be very clever if cough syrup did taste like cognac, post rads.
As everyone says, your brother is still in the midst of it all and at what I remember to be the worst part. Time time and more time..things are just getting better for me at 4 months post. Keep trying and if it doesn't work one week try again.
Stacey

ZooDavid
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My doctor told me 33% never get taste back, 33% partial, and 33% most.My experience is after radiation may 08 my taste buds are still messed up.The dryness keeps me up at night because my throat gets stuck shut, from lack of moisture, and I wake up choking.But anyway these are the percentages my doctor told me.
Good Luck!

lstricker
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I too have the same problem, loss of taste. My last treatment was May 30th 09' and I still can not stand the taste of food. I can eat Yogurt but so far thats about it. I can taste a hint of rootbeer and diet coke. The docs tell me just takes time, but they want me to eat. ha

Hope taste comes back soon so i can really eat again and get rid of this tube.

my prayers are with you
LLS

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lstricker : HI: this is a diamond-n-the-rough, I'M a 8yr. survior , wow time flys. But just recently, I battled a servere case of pnemonia. Over my eight years of battling cancer, I never even had a cold. In JULY of this year my doctor inserted an IVC filter through my throat, into my stomach. I think this could be the problem, maybe not. BUT since my bout with pneumonia, my dry mouth has returned,and anything I eat causees stomach pain even my medication. Could anyone shed some light ! OH I failed to mention," my doctor told me that DEATH WAS KNOCKING AT MY DOOR !, SORRY WRONG DOOR ! MY LORD HAS'NT AND WONT FAIL ME !

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I'm unaware of any "scientific" predictor of how much and when saliva and taste regenerate after radiation. Mine gradually improved (sometimes in spurts) over two years post-treatment. My saliva production is now about 80% of what it was; taste is about 30% of old "normal". Good health to you. Rich

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There are excellent replies to your question. As was previously mentioned, all individuals react differently.

I completed my treatment for NPC in June 1998 (just over 11 years ago). My taste came back to less then 50 percent. As I eat a meal, the taste gradually diminishes.

As for saliva, I think mine got worse. I think it is partially due to the aging process. I used to be able to eat a tomato sandwich. Now, it is very difficult.

My personal recommendation is not to let any of the side effects lessen your positive thoughts. I am just happy to be here today and still able to respond to this thread.

BeenThereDoneThat
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I agree with the many responses. I had 30 rad treatment + 3 chemo rounds over 5 years ago.

Saliva about 50%....taste 90+%. Like Jim, I had a strange alchohol response. Lost my taste for beer....but Scotch still tastes good!

Keep positive. Our bodies are tough and don't go down easy to the battering the doctors give ti to kill all the bad stuff. You will win!

George

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Like you I have very little if any taste of sweets... I finished (Jun09) with my 35 radiations treatments with concurrent chemo over seven weeks that was precxeeded with nine weeks (three rounds) of chemo (cisplaten, taxotere and 5-FU).

I can pretty much taste everything other than sweetness. Most things tend to lose their flavor quickly, but a lot don't. I actually have just started tasting a few things that are sweet this last week...cherry turnovers, rootbeer, apple cider...LOL.

Hopefully as it's still very early, I'll get even more taste to return, not to mention saliva production which is still on the very low side.

Good Luck and Hang in There.....
John

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I am 4 years post-treatments and had no taste after treatment and over 2 years I had some tastes come back - cheese, cinnamon, chinese foods. I now have a little bit of taste but find that nothing tastes as it used to. I have found that there is a lot of pleasure in the smell of foods and I enjoy eating foods with nice aromas (such as things cooked with mushrooms, cinnamon, asian foods, cheeses, dark chocolates, etc.) It turns out there is another taste sensation beyond the 4 we learned about years ago in school (sweet, sour, bitter, salty). The 5th is now know as Umami and it turns out to be in a lot of the foods I eat. I still work to maintain weight so am meeting with a nutritionist to discuss what I can eat to take advantage that I still have this Umami taste.

Also, I should mention, during treatments, in case this affects you... that "tinny" metallic taste that foods give can be avoided a lot by not using silverware and use plasticware instead. There's something about the chemo that does that. This helped for both my daughter and I while we were in the midst of chemo treatments.

Even without taste, you can try to find pleasure in eating things with good aromas and enjoy "smelling" your food while you ingest it.

mac1949
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I completed 30 radiation and 2 Cisplatin treatments in May-June 2010. A month later, I can't taste much but my salivary glands seem to be working. I am surprised at how slow the healing process is relating to the back of my throat. Overall, I have no interest in solid food but don't mind Boost. It gives me 360 calories per 8 oz. Funny though, I can't tell the difference between the chocolate, vanilla, or strawberry. I lost 30 lbs the hard way I guess but feel pretty decent now. Energy level is coming back pretty quickly despite only 1400-1700 calories per day. Good luck to all. Neil in Iowa

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I had 35 rads and 2 cisplatin, treatment end in Feb of this year. I had it on the base of my tongue as source. So they hit my tongue pretty hard. My taste ended up pretty much ok. Still sensitive to spices, sweetness isn't as strong. I used to put 2 sugars in my coffee, now I have to put 3-4 to get it to taste like 2.

Sweet tea tastes good, not as sweet as before. So I'd have to say my sweetness hasn't come back fully, if it ever will at all. At least I have some taste of sweet. But like others have said, everyone has a different story to tell.

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I had 33 radiation treatments and 3 rounds of cisplatin. The last radiation treatment ended three weeks ago.

Taste has improved slightly since then. I can taste green veggies and I can make out the tastes of fruits, but I cannot taste any sweet. Dairy products seem to be good.

I can taste Chinese food and chicken works out best for any type of meat. Just keep plugging away.......

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Approaching four months since 35 rads and 3 chemos, and a good number of tastes have returned. Some, like coca cola, are not exactly what they were, but close. I'm still using the feeding tube, and I have read here that using the cans will dull your appetite, which makes sense. My taste has wobbled, some things that tasted ok a month back have lost their appeal, and new ones have come. I lay in bed and imagine things that sound appetizing to me. It's a dice roll when I actually try what I think I might like though, and none of it holds its flavor through a whole helping. Only exception is eggs. I can eat them about anytime, and style, without much effort. So, try an egg.
more taste to all,

Hal

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I bet your taste comes back. I am 3 months out from 35 radiation and 3 rounds of cisplatin and thought I would never taste again. Now I have about 65-75% of my taste. I've just kept trying different things and try not to get too discouraged when I can't taste things I used to like. Easier said than done. The first non liquid I could actually taste was radishes. Weird, but that started me trying all kinds of vegetables and fruits. Now I am finding new things I look forward to eating that I never would have liked before, and not liking at all things I used to love-like chips and candy.
I am like Hal, too. sometimes foods only hold their taste for a few bites...then it fades.
I was told to try Zinc supplements and brush my tongue regularly with my toothbrush. So I do both. Who know if it works but it's at least something I can do rather than just wait.

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Hey, hang in there with the whole "taste" issue. I've been eating for a few weeks and I'm still spitting stuff out. About 1/4 of what goes in - doesn't go down - and gets discreetly spit back out. And flavors do change for me from day to day.

Get yourself through the surgery on the 27th, and I'll drive down and treat you to lunch at the Ahwahnee Hotel. How does that sound?

Deb

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Yeah Dave, a lot of my taste has returned, I just need to get hungry. Deb, that sounds great! I could never turn down an offer from a lady that rides horses and squeezes her own coffee. Thanks for remembering my surgery. Sounds like it should be a a quick mugging in the park from what I've read. Kidding, it shouldn't be bad, and the rest of me should coninue, as it will with you, with treatment recovery.
Hal

mac1949
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Thanks to all for the posts in response to my taste issue. Amazing what we all experience in common. Anyway, based on the encouragement, I again tried some real food. Ridiculous choices of course. Could taste honey roasted cashews a little. Tried some avocado dip I made for my girlfriend and daughter. Tasted almost normal! That was a surprise. I agree about the sweet stuff. Love chocolate but no luck there. The taste does fade after a few bites. I had kind of gotten pessimistic about a week ago after I tried some chicken and rice soup. The rice tasted like wet cardboard-however that tastes. Armed with my new adventurous taste exploration, I am dangerous now. Thank you guys very much. Neil in Iowa.

P.S. I buy the Boost in little plastic bottles. I did not get much metallic taste there.

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Hang in there.

On Saturday I tried a buffet to see what I could taste. Salads and veggies were good, but the main menu items left alot to be desired. I tried sweets from the dessert bar, but they had absolutely no taste at all.

On Sunday I went with my wife to the grocery store. She tried to get me to try some sweet cherries, but I knew I couldn't taste them. To make a long story short, she got me to try one and I could taste it! It was sweet! I actually cried in the store..... That was the first time since early April that I had tasted "sweet."

Less than 24 hours made the difference from not being able to taste something and getting the taste back. Be adventurous!!!

Rush

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Its funny how emotional it is to taste after not being able to taste.
I would have never thought it would be as intense a feeling as it is!
I like the boost in plastic cups, and iced coffee frappes!
mmmm
Stacey

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I now consider eating a culinary adventure lol! Each day is getting much better & I am getting braver to venture out more. I so miss going out for lunch or dinner but was afraid to choke or spill something plus embarass the people that I am with. I am about four & a half month's post treatment & can really feel the difference!

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I now consider eating a culinary adventure lol! Each day is getting much better & I am getting braver to venture out more. I so miss going out for lunch or dinner but was afraid to choke or spill something plus embarass the people that I am with. I am about four & a half month's post treatment & can really feel the difference!

rozaroo
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I now consider eating a culinary adventure lol! Each day is getting much better & I am getting braver to venture out more. I so miss going out for lunch or dinner but was afraid to choke or spill something plus embarass the people that I am with. I am about four & a half month's post treatment & can really feel the difference!

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Most of us have taste and eating issues. You will find the things you can taste the most - are salads and fruit.

Coincidentally, these are the best things for you. Turn this 'disadvantage' into an 'ADVANTAGE' and focus on eating healthy salads and fruits. You can get very creative with vegetable recipes and salads, and salad dressings (Sesame oil + Olive Oil + Dash of light Soy one of my Favs). Try new vegetables in your salads. Beetroot, avocado, and get the bright colored vegetables in there. They are full of good nutrition.

You will find you can taste them and enjoy them and you get the bonus of getting healthier. Make sure you get a few nuts into you during the day and maybe a health shake to top up on nutrients. I do this now and I feel the best I have in over 15 years despite the horrible experience of going through treatment. I finished rads October 10 last year (2009).

All the best
Scambuster

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While I'm super appreciative that I have regained most of all of the taste in food as before. One thing that I'm really greatful for is that water tastes like water again....

There was a period about half way through the rads where water just plain tasted like sweat....and water has always been the only thing that truely quinches my thirst...sooo glad it tastes like water again.

Best,
John

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I was just thinking today how good it is to drink plain old, room temperature water from a tap. Great big swallows....and bottled water is like an imported champagne for me or something. Vive L'eau...

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I am going on 5 1/2 mounts of no taste or eating I tried a can of beer and it burnt my mouth to bad I like beer what type would be the best?

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While some don't advocate alcohol, I too like a beer or two...

I like Corona Lites, but you might try one of the non-alcohol beers just for the taste, other wise a light beer might not burn you.

I haven't had the burning problems a lot have had...but I'm nearly two years post treatment of 16 weeks of chemo and chemo/rads.

I did have problems with acidic juices, but that has also gotten better.

Best,
John

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I have had 9 chemo and 35 radiation treatments I have been finished with my last treatment for 2 1/2 months but i still cain't eat or swallow food has no taste and it's hard to swallow hurts very bad my throat seen's swollen I am still useing a feeding tube but the ensure i use makes me sick and gives me heartburns I dont seen to be geting any better and get very depressed at times. Any help please let me know.

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Hi Robert,

I have sent you a PM (Private message).

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I had 2 chemos and 35 rads and sweet stuff also isn't the same for me. I am 5 months post and the thing that I miss the most is peanut butter! It still just tastes like cardboard! I used to eat 3 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches at a time, lol, not anymore though. It's such a bummer! Also chocolate isn't as good :( Bread is ok, but it's so tough to swallow, and milk, milk is not that good anymore either! On the plus side, I have maintained my skinny frame! It's a major bummer and I'm sorry that we all have to go through this! Hang in there!

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I found a peanut butter and jelly ice cream that I can eat. It's really good. Wegman's brand. It's like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with out the bread. The peanut butter ice cream is just like peanut butter, but I can swallow it, and it has big grape jelly swirls. :)

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omggggg that sounds sooooooooo good!! *drools* lol

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It is really good. I don't know if there are other brands that make PBJ ice cream or not.

PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY ICE CREAM

VEGAN PNT BTR JELLY ICE CREAM RECIPE

Or you can cheat and probably make your own with peanut butter ice cream or peanut butter folded into vanilla ice cream.

Ok, so I guess I will go start dinner now cause I am hungry. :) That made my belly growl. Haven't found anything yet that can make me drool!

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Kristyn, it will get better, or more than likely will...

As you know, I am nearly two years post chemo/rads. I have always been a big milk drinker, and do like some chocolate mostly toffee or chocolate almond bars, oreos.

It took a really long time before milk tastes good again, and even longer for chocolate, but they have both come back and are as good as ever.

I do still have problems with some sweets, but mainly ice cream...not sure why, might be something with the coldness.

Best,
John

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Thanks so much to all of you who have responded on this site. I am heading into my 4th week of 35 rad treatments. I could have never possibly related to anyone talking about a loss of taste. I now have total empathy!!! And, how much taste is one of the 2 highest, ultimate pleasures in life. When it's gone, it's devastating.

I have already completely lost my taste combined with an extremely raw throat, sunburn and ongoing heartburn. Everything I eat tastes like I am eating a non-scented bar of soap covered in lard with a hint of tin-foil!

Up till now, I have always been really healthy, active and exercised regularly. This really blind-sided me! I'm trying to maintain as normal a life as before and keep up with my business at the same time. I'm blessed because I'm really busy, but because of the 3hrs a day away from my office to do the treatments, I'm having to go in really, really early, stay late and make up time on the weekends to keep up with it all. I'm starting to feel a little fatigued because of these hrs combined with the fact that I now absolutely dread the thought of eating! I'm starting to lose weight because my calorie intake is really down. They're telling me that I need to listen to my body and slow down. Hasn't been my nature and it messes with your mind. Experimenting every day just trying to find anything hi-protein that will go down easily and possibly provide me with a hint of taste.

Thanks so much to all of you for hope! I needed to hear that my taste can possibly return. I was so mistaken to think that water (the most basic of taste's) had no taste! Like you, John and others, I long for the day of savoring the wonderful 'taste' of water again. I had no idea.

I am so-o-o-o happy to still be on this side of the grass, though.

Again,
Thanks for the hope,
Pete

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Welcome to the family here on CSN, sorry to hear about you having this C stuff but you have found the right place for answers to your many questions

Have a great day my friend
Hondo

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Well it's about time you quit lurking, I was wondering when you were finally going to post...I've had my eye on you for several weeks now, LOL....

Welcome to the forum Pete....

Yes, water even tasted like sweat to me at my worse. I'm over 2 /2 years post treatment now, and all is good.

I have pretty much all of my taste and nearly all saliva...other than a little at night during sleep.

Like you said, "Other than having cancer, I was in perfect health,
LOL"....

You sound to have the right attitude,and I'm sure you will do well.

BTW, since that post in March above....,I can now also taste ice cream, and yummmm, it's as good as ever.

Best,
John

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amazed with your status. 4th week and your working full time.... awesome man
amazed with your PMA (positive mental attitude) i have learned and believe that 70-80 percent of kicking cancer's butt is maintaing PMA

those two amazements are huge in having hope. I can not say your taste will return, hell i am 15 plus years post treatment and my taste is gone and has been. what i have had to learn is to accept the new normal and once that happened eating with no taste was fine as long as I could eat and smell. the smeller kicked in big since the loss of taste so I almost think i eat well by smeller.

welcome to a wonderful family for support, information and hope.

prayers for continued pma and strength.

john

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Thanks so much for the positive feedback, but at this early stage I'm just trying to figure out how to deal with all of this and make it over this temporary bump in the road.

I am a firm believer that a positive attitude is huge! My sister had ovarian cancer for 16 years (I had heard that the average was 5?) and came alongside so many people during her journey. She was the inspiration for so many that at her eventual passing, about a quarter of the 400 people that showed up were unknown to us; her own family! Many of them stood up and to an open mic, spoke of how she was there for them when they could have given up. She got her strength from her faith and helping others.

I've already had a couple of miracles in the past few months. Out of my 3 surgeries in 4 months, I was told twice by the surgeons that I was absolutely for sure going to have to have my entire ear removed because the Squameous Cell cancer (very aggressive) had consumed the entire area. I was having to get my head around a prosthetic ear and no hearing on that side at all. Miraculously, I came out of these with the outer shape still relatively in tact and only the 'bowl' reamed out! The canal was saved and I still have my hearing! However, they found it in the areas behind and below my ear lobe to under the jaw. Had to have my saliva glands and lymph nodes removed on that side. Now it's heavy doses of radiation to catch those invisible 'rogue' cells. Fortunately, for the moment I have good teeth and didn't have to have any removed before these rad treatments. They do feel strange, though.

I hope that I can be an example to others and as positive as my sister during this journey. I have to keep up for myself and hope that this translates into help for others. Pretty tough now, but I believe that the light I see at the end of the tunnel is a victory and not an oncoming train!

Thanks all for the encouraging words.
Pete

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""I am a firm believer that a positive attitude is huge!

You are 100% correct, a positive attitude is huge. Surround yourself with positive people and family also.

Faith, Family and Friends

Best,
John

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So far as I can tell, all my sense of taste has come back, and did so within a few mnonths of ending radiation. As everyone's said, it's different with everyone.

Good luck!

Be well.

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I dread eating now! Never, ever thought I'd say that. Major chore to get 80g of protein each day without drinking those horrible, thick, sweet protein shakes. I have absolutely no taste left at all! Only if you want to call 'metallic' a taste.

I HAVE discovered that trader Joe's Steel-cut oatmeal is the most tolerable thing I've tried. My wife is experimenting every day for me. I feel sorry for her as she is trying so hard to get me to eat. Everything is tough to get down with a raw, dry throat. Even water tastes awful. Trying everything for calories and protein. We've tried sweet potatoes, salmon, green beans, asparagus, BBQ chicken, home-made chicken/vegetable soups, Minestroni soup, seasoned pasta with tomato sauce, cottage cheese, ice cream shakes and smoothies with fruits, aloe, etc. (tolerable) and different protein shakes.

Any suggestions out there? I feel hungry in my stomach, but when I try to down things it is absolute drudgery. Have to fight the gag-reflex and it takes a long time to get through the little I do eat.

Thanks for listening to my appeal.

Pete

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You can fight it all ou want....

I'd be hard pressed to say that anything you can eat now, or for sure in the near future will even come close to the calories you will get from shakes similar to Ensure Plus at 350 calories per can.

Bottom line, taste and enjoyment will or should be secondary to survival and getting through treatment the easiest and most comfortable way you can.

I know that's not the news you wanted to hear, but it's the truth from my perspective and experience.

Best,
John

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There may be something I can suggest to you instead of the thick milk based nutritional supplement drinks. You can try Resource Boost Breeze. I used to order it through walgreens. It is sort of like a Hi-C drink box. It still has sugar in it, but it's not thick and milky.

Taste was an issue for a long time for me, but my problem was severe pain, mouth sores, bleeding, and tongue issues that made me peg reliant. I always said that when I finally was trying to eat again, that everything tasted like metal and salty wallpaper paste. Also every thing hurt me and burned me. Even water.

Flat Mug Root Beer, was the first thing I could drink and it tasted good and was almost soothing to my mouth and tongue.

LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE HERE FOR THE BOOST BREEZE.  ALSO THE BENECALORIE MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO YOU AS WELL

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Thanks John and Sweetblood for your input. Was having a really bad day yesterday as far as nausea, no appetite, but famished at the same time, metallic-taste overload and raw throat. I'm back to feeling fairly good today. Sorry for the venting.

Anyway, I will look into your suggestions and you are absolutely right . . . I'm should just be glad that I didn't lose my ear, I still have my hearing, I have tons of friends, a good church family, lots of communication, a resurgence of business, understanding clients, still able to go to the gym and get my mind off of this stuff for awhile and a wonderful, wonderful wife and kids. What more could you ask for? I stopped for a silent moment this morning and really thanked God for his protection, all the above, mercy and grace. A lot of people praying for me.

Thanks,
No more complaining . . .

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It does a body good, LOL....

Where are you a graphic designer?

Both Sweet and I do art work, both have photos of our work in our individual expressions pages. Though on mine you might be subjected to several of my fishing photos posted there as well, LOL...

My son is a Creative Art Director out in San Fran... He used to work for BSSP, now ISOBAR.

He has done projects for MiniCooper, Radio Shack, Priceline, Columbia Sportswear....pretty cool career.

Best,
John

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Even though a couple of years ago my business took a hit when companies went into survival mode and marketing wasn't on their radar, I love what I do. Creative inspiration comes so easy more often than not, but can be a real struggle at times. Every project is like re-inventing the wheel and my day-to-day routine is NEVER the same. A friend psychologist asked me one time if I knew the definition of a 'rut'. Well, of course I gave him the dictionary meaning . . .he shot this back at me: "A rut is a grave with both ends kicked out"! I always remembered this and am fortunate that my only rut has been this past year on this cancer journey. Thank God every day for what you have, surround yourself with good, positive friends and cherish family to the utmost. Never heard of anyone on their death bed asking to be surrounded with all their 'stuff' It's ALWAYS family.

I have a design studio in Orange county, California. Clients in many business sectors. Probably weighted 70/30-B2B/consumer. Sounds like your son is working with more consumer.

You probably said earlier, but where are you located and where do you fish?
Most of my fishing has been spin and fly in the CA Sierra's, Montana, Colorado, Idaho, Wyoming and Utah. Got to go to the Northwest Territories in '94 via float plane to a really isolated lodge. It was a customer who paid for it for me if I gave a 15-minute talk on their upcoming years plans. Needless to say, I jumped on it! :~))

One of these days when I have a moment I'll post some photos and create my profile.

Pete

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