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Could everyone please post any info they have on the food cancer connection?

california_artist
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Spices, veggies anything. Site addresses for us to reference, books, just about anything that might help in addition to what everyone's already doing?

Mary Ann, you had some spice suggestions somewhere, could you repeat them please?

Thanks, any info can benefit all of us.

claudia

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daisy366
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If you look at the link at the bottom you will find a chart with ratings for anti-oxidant rich foods.

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Oxygen radical absorbance capacity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
* Method|
* Food Sources|
* Comparisons of ORAC values|
* References
Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity (ORAC) is a method of measuring antioxidant capacities in biological samples. A wide variety of foods have been tested using this methodology, with certain spices, berries and legumes rated very highly . Correlation between the high...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_radical_absorbance_capacity - Cached

california_artist
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Mary Ann, thank you. I'll look into it.

california_artist
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Hey, you know you are still my hero. I've been thinking of going back to school recently. You are never too old, you could be too feeble. The doctor who finally helped me with the PET/CT order was an Osteopath.

The only thing I know about red clover is that it is the only plant that doesn't need nitrogen in the soil, as it can pull it right out of the air.

Waiting with baited breath for the rest of your post....

You know, I'm beginnning to think you are a bit on the fringe, guess we both are, c'est la vie.
What is the actual interpretation of the your sign off-email, eh?

california_artist
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Patricia,
Being on the fringe is like most people are over here, and then people like me and you are
over--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------here.

It's actually kinda interesting being out there. There just doesn't seem to be a box, so to speak. Seems our thinking has no limitations, very often we are way out of the predictable venue and searching under every rock on the mountain looking for every possible answer.

Sometimes I would also imagine we can be very annoying, not you so much, but I think I can get carried away in my responses.

Yesterday, or the day before, Deanna mentioned she had all over body itching. I knew that that was a symptom of liver problems to I went and found a site that listed all the other liver symptoms, so she could see if there was more than one. It was a very, very, very, long post.

At the end I did mention that it could just be an allergic reaction to detergent. Another poster who had personal experience, said in about two sentences that her experience had been something very simple. Deanna thanked her. That was personal experience that she could relate to and I couldn’t, not having had chemo or radiation.

Guess the very very long thing is not the way to go.

Fringe Thinking!

Love ya,

Claudia

Thanks for the teacher thing, but I never know what is going to happen when I paint, so it would be hard to explain it to someone else.

california_artist
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He also had very little formal education, and was a huge fan of Mickey Mouse and Ertha Kit.

Can I say that I ABSOLUTELLY LOVE YOUR INTERPRETATION OF MY PAINTINGS. I would appreciate it if you would give your thoughts on any or all of them.

who is John? Did I miss more than I thought????

About the gardening connection you mentioned one other time. I was for the greater part of my ife an avid gardener. Used lots of perlite and vermiculite one of which is now on the substances listed as dangerous chemicals by the state of California or the feds, I've forgotten which. Used to make my own soil mixtures with perlite, vermiculite and peatmoss.I know that rotenone or however you spell, it's a cutting simulator, is highly carcinogenic. I used quite a bit of that.
I'm gonna call you.
That "I hope we are not chasing our tail on this quest." Brilliant. Brilliantly spoken.

Your friend,

Claudia

california_artist
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I will look into getting the book Cancer Etiquette and go to the site you recommended, I save the suggestions from the members to a word doc and then see what I can find time to read.

As for kris carr, while I did like the book, I found her boundless enthusiasm shown in the dvd for all things possible, even with all the cancer in her liver, to put me over the top with hope. I've ordered the organic hard red spring or winter wheat, grew some and continued to research everything I could on its benefits. Still need a wheatgrass juicer as it's quite the chore to try to chew it and then take the fibery stuff out your mouth. She's still alive, married, I think. She gives me hope.

About the penguins, the painting is called Friendly Advice. You can find friendships anywhere, they don't have to be what you would normally expect. Giving kindly advice to a friend is an act of love, it can be scary, but if you feel it can help, as a friend, you have to try, and not worry about how that will effect the friendship.

You ever find out something very important, rush to tell a friend, cause you think it might help them, and they say, "Oh, I already knew that." Well, you're sitting there thinking, hunh??? it would have helped me if I had known, why didn't you tell me.

Why is that I wonder?? different levels of friendship? one with more love than the other? I don't really know.

My philosophy is---if you think something can help--you offer it up. Whether or not the person chooses to act on the info is really not the point. I can sleep at night because I know I offered basically whatever information I have, that could possibly help. that's really all I can do. There are times though when you have to consider if the information might damage a person's level of hope. That is a whole other issue. At times, I choose not to say anything, one never knows what will happen.

When my father was ill with inoperable liver cancer, I was in the doctor's office with my dad, I had mentioned some therapies that could make a person feel better, things like exercise and light therapy (it was winter in Virginia), made my dad smile to think there was something to be done, kinda gave him a purpose. The doctor interupted me to say that there really wasn't anything that would change the outcome, my father was going to die soon. He said that right in front of my dad. At the end of the visit, I followed him out into the hall, made him stop and face me and said, "How dare you take away hope from my father, how dare you???" I explained that these were things that he could do, that would give him the feeling of being able to do something for himeself rather than always having things done to him. I don't know as i've ever been so furious with someone since. Shortly after that, I watched a special on tv about a doctor who felt and proved that hope was a vital part of the healing process and at times far outstripped all other forms of treatment for patients. Doctors can really suck. My doctor told me that I was going to die soon. That was a year and half ago. I suppose soon is a relative term. When asked, he had no idea as to the success or failure rate of his treatments, said that would take a long time to figure out and he wasn't really concerned with that as the treatment was always the same. Excuse me????????
Why would you go to a doctor who didn't know if his treatment was even working???? Or worse yet, DIDN'T REALLY CARE??????? How would he know to tweek things. Oh, wait, that's right, he doesn't care.

When studies are conducted adding in whether or not people have support groups, the ones in the support groups invariably do better than those not in the groups. This is sort of a support group, only without all the visible friendly smiles, although there is lots of love to be had.

You know what I mean.

Blah, blah, blah, blah

Claudia

I can't say how much I hope Linda's scan is alright.

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Just reading this thread and enjoying the sincere friendship that's formed between you two, and had to pop in with a big hug to you both.

I probably won't get tomorrow's CT-scan results until my post-treatment oncologist appointment on the 11th, but I'll be sure and let you know how I make out. I have a good feeling about this scan. Thanks for being there for me.

I've been an organic gardener for over 30 years, but I too have transgressed. Once my beautiful bearded irises got Iris Borers. (Ever see those? Ugliest bug I've ever seen; pinkish ribbed fat caterpillers that bore down the iris stem then eat the rhizome/corm, turning it into slimy disgusting mush.) Anyway, only LINDANE kills Iris Borers. Although I refused to pour the Lindane on my soil (it KILLS the soil!), I did dig up all of my irises, and the ones that looked salvageable, I put in a bucket of water laced with Lindane overnight. The next day I re-planted the surviving irises in another garden bed. So if I ever got cancer from my garedn, I would trace it directly back to the Lindane incident.

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Here's a link I think you will enjoy, something I wrote that was requested so often on the Organic Gardening Magazine website, that they published it in their magazine and posted it permanently on their website:

http://www.organicgardening.com/feature/0,7518,s1-2-10-1396,00.html

I'm fairly 'fringe' myself! HA!

california_artist
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I've got to go soon and I'll read your garden post when I return.

In the meantime, a hearty welcome to a fellow hippy, dippy, Fringette. I thought I recognized some fringish thinking in your replys.

Love,

claudia

I think Mary Ann is also a very strong candidate for:

The Society of Hippy, Dippy, Fringettes.

Just made that up. See........................F-R-I-N-G-E!

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Linda, I am a composter too. I'm curious: Do you use this in the summer too? or do you make a new bin each winter? Great idea. In FL we can walk to the compost pile just about any time -

Mary Ann

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I have 2 juicers and did not get into this - but have wanted to and think this is something that helped my brother-in-law recover from stomach cancer - yes, stomach removed 15 years ago when he was in early 40's.

Juicing is supposed to be the best for our health. I'm going to dust my juicers off and get them working.

Mary Ann

sherab1
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I am new to this site. I have just finished surgery for stage 1 endometrial cancer. No lymph node involvement. I had gone with my intuition that something was not feeling right and asked for a D&C. At this point I consider myself lucky.

I have been taking organic herb preparations for colds, etc. for several years. I have begun using their formulary for cancer "Contra Can." It comes from Tara Mandala, a Buddhist Center in Colorado where I have done retreats and trainings. Website" TaraMandala.org". Friends family members have used it with great results.

I also have also had my own small organic garden and eat as much as I can organically. Check out" Diet for a Poisioned Planet." I am convinced it supports me.

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Here in my neck of the South if it stands still it's covered with kudzu. There are cookbooks for using kudzu in salads, making jellies from the flowers and cooking them like turnips greens. They also make great baskets and wreaths. They're great food for goats, but cows will die eating it cuz they can't derive any nutritional value from it.

I used to live in Southern California...1959 ~ 1972. First near what used to be vast orange orchards outside LA, teen years in agricultural Orange County and astly just outside Camarillo where the crop dusters were constantly overhead. I may have been doomed from an early age.

At any rate, as one about to become a "fringer", I appreciate the links and stories.

Is there a way to make certain threads into "stickies"...meaning they always stay at the top of the list? A couple of message boards I inhabit have the ability to do that.

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