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Hoxsey Clinic -Mexico
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Feb 07, 2004 - 1:04 pm
Has anyone heard of this alternative cancer clinic, or had any experience with it's treatments? |
Joined: Dec 2003
bud is not part of the link...
Joined: Dec 2001
Yes I have heard of his type of protocol. I believe it is all herbal. According to my Alternative Cancer book, even the AMA and the FDA admitted his treatment could CURE some forms of cancer. pg 95 OPTIONS The Alternative Cancer Therapy Book by Richard Walters.
But true to form they eventually shut him down. Oh surprise. Not.
It combines internal and external herbal preparations with diet, vitamin and mineral supplements, and attitudianl counseling.
I can write more on this later if you are interested. They have a whole chapter about him in my book but it is so beautiful outside and I really just popped in for a second.....
peace, emily the librarian
Joined: Nov 2003
When anyone mentions Mexico I think of Laetrile. Apricot pips. Cyanide. Steve McQueen. Major hoax. A neighbor of ours in Montreal was investigated by the RCMP for promoting this cancer cure.
Caveat Emptor and all that.
Joined: Dec 2001
What do you believe is the hoax part? Just curious.
Joined: Nov 2003
I did some research on the founder, Harry Hoxsey. This guy was in bed with some real characters
One of Hoxsey's allies was Gerald B. Winrod, the Kansas evangelist. A militant fundamentalist, Winrod had fought modernism in religion during the 1920's. Later he turned his attention to right-wing politics. A visit to Germany in 1934 confirmed Winrod's pro-Nazi inclinations, although he played this down while nearly winning the Republican Senatorial nomination from Kansas in 1938. During the war he was indicted for sedition for expressing views calculated to injure morale in the armed forces, but the death of the judge halted the trial. After the war, Winrod's personal organ, the Defender, brought to a hundred thousand subscribers a mixture of fervent fundamentalism in religion and morals, right-wing political extremism, violent antagonism toward Jews and Negroes, hostility to fluoridation and mental health programs. The Defender also accepted flying saucers and championed unorthodox healers.
Hoxsey had other similar allies. The American Rally was an isolationist organization, established in 1952 "For Peace, Abundance and the Constitution." Like Winrod's journal, it opposed fluoridation and polio vaccine and believed in flying saucers.
Flying saucers??? Maybe you could take one down to Mexico. Read the whole story:
http://www.quackwatch.org/13Hx/MM/17.html
Joined: Dec 2001
So does the fact that I oppose flouridation (poisoning of municipal water supplies) and do not vaccinate my children, think Prozac is handed out like candy, follow herbal healing, and believe in the Bible would most likely get me lumped in with such "extemists" in your book. Whoa.
Do I sense a violent antagonism towards opinions that think outside the chemo box?
Joined: Nov 2003
Emily, no body is calling you an extremist for not following the medical establishment protocols. You seem to be doing fine on your own regime. And that takes guts, girl. I sheepishly did everything the docs told me because it was scary to hear the C word (well, almost everything--there is still a full bottle of Xeloda here a year after my last chemo tx)
I take vitamins, drink herbal teas and used ginger for nausea. I also posted the coconut macaroon cure to cut down trips to the 'reading' room. Otherwise there aren't enough magazines in the world to satisfy our need.
Where is your funnybone? I was making fun of those fruitcakes in the article, not you.
Please tell me you are not sucking on apricot pips. What would we do without you to keep our radiated butts in line? Mine looks like a road map and it glows in the dark. That's what I got for being such a good patient. Well, I'm still here to ***** about it.
Aspaysia, nostalgic for her bikini
Joined: Dec 2001
But see Aspaysia...I do not consider Hoxsey a fruitcake and to call him such oppresses those who are interested in his protocol to stay "underground" for fear of ridicule from others. I just happen to not care what others think so I refuse to stay underground. Where I am alarmed at the politics of Hoxsey's so called compatriot, I can believe fully that his herbal regimen can heal cancer.
Everyone has a total right to her opinion, but to use such strong language dismisses what could be something really good for Bud.
As for laetrile, it was proven successful by a study done at Memorial Sloan-Kettering but the results were withheld by the muckety-mucks. Just do a search on Dr. Ralph Moss who was supposed to hoodwink the public into thinking it didn't work. Instead he resigned rather than lie and mislead the public.
Besides, if I believed that sucking on apricot pits would create an anti-angiogenesis of my tumor (if I had one) then I would by all mean suck on them. For crying out loud I put organic coffee up my hinder! lol. :-)
So "fruitcakes" or not, when people are dying daily from this plague it couldn't hurt to keep an open mind.
And remember, the quackwatch does have an agenda....and don't be fooled into thinking it has your best interest at heart....just follow the money folks...just follow the money.
peace, emily who actually has a well used funnybone when it's funny
Joined: Dec 2003
at least you've got a hinder to put your organic coffee in... bud
Joined: Apr 2003
Bud, bud, bud...
Look what you started now...
You KNOW it's your fault!
Maybe Mexico would be a good place to cut and run to - the dollar is awfully strong down there and I know lots of people!
Joined: Dec 2003
yea, but it's interesting...where's your 2 cents?
It would be nice to see some science, I mean real statistics. Em is still my hero, I'm just chicken and don't know why I won't cross the road.
We could always take my new RV, although I'd have to add a gun turret.. Bud
Joined: Dec 2001
Well if I really WAS brave I would hop in my VW Vanagon camper, (not the 71 Westfalia camper that is permantly parked and now endearingly called the "Love Shack"), with added snow tires...afterall I'm coming from MN to Alaska, (VW to set the tone for a beatnik roadtrip...okay Haight-Ashbury hippie flashback) and come up and kidnap you to Mexico. So there!
If truth be told Bud, chemo scared the living daylights outta me after I saw what it did to my grandfather, aunt, sister.....
But I have to say, my experience is nothing compared to those on here who lose feeling in their hands, have problems with the heat/cold, lose hair, have disturbing bouts of severe diarrhea, have recurrences and mets to add insult to injury, and have a down-right hard row to hoe.
What I do is a piece of cake in comparison.....that would be organic, stevia sweetened, whole grain cake obviously!
If you see a Blue VW camper roaring up your road someday watch out!
peace, emily who never was even a Dead-Head but owns 2 VW's microbusses! :-)
Joined: Apr 2003
em - you totally, like, groovey, chick, man. Do you have, like, flower power flowers, like, painted on yer bus?
Joined: Apr 2003
Bud -
I'm not gonna weigh in on this one - a man's gotta know his limitations - or in this case I will apply the sage advice of a dead President:
It is far better to hold your tongue and let them think you a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.
I know that asp is right about Steve McQueen, I know that there are many (including em) who swear by naturopathic cures. I know that all I want is to be cancer-free...
As Forrest Gump says; "And that's all I have t' say about that."
- Sponge Gump
Joined: Dec 2001
Yo Bubba,
If you want the other side to the Steve McQueen story go to www.curezone.com and do a search. Very interesting.
A wise man said, "Wisdom calls aloud in the street, she raises her voice in the public squares; at the head of the noisy streets she cries out, in the gateways of the city she makes her speech." Proverbs 1:20-21
:-)
peace, emily who would love to be a Proverbs 31 woman
Joined: Dec 2003
...and to that I would add Robert Frost:
"we dance 'round the circle and suppose,
While the secret sits in the middle and knows.."
Joined: Dec 2001
Bud,
you are in my thoughts and prayers all day long as I mush the woofies through the woods and fields (I just discovered a new trail), stack my fire wood, sit and watch the birds out my window....hoping you are doing fine with your new regimen.
peace, emily who loves to swing from trees...birches