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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi I met my husband 4 years ago, he had had oral cancer and a neck dissection 3 years previously. On our first date I asked him about his scar and he told me about his cancer and honestly my first response was to run away....I was terrified of falling in love with someone who might get cancer again and maybe die. I had to think about it and needless to say we kept dating :)  I decided I would rather spend whatever days we had than to just run away. Well he got cancer again, he just went through another huge surgery and i slept in the hospital with him all 8 days. I seriously didnt think he would get cancer again or at least not for Many years, he is only 39 now. The odds that he will get another cancer are high but I am sticking it out. I love him. You will find someone who deserves you!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:56:55 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>How are you doing?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Lisa...  I read your post just now after searching &quot;cancer and dating&quot; and I can&#039;t believe how similar our stories are!  I am also an RCC (stage 4) survivor and my now-ex also had an affair (3 actually).  I am considering dating now, but the thought of it just makes me scared and sad.  I cried as I read all the replies below.  I hope you are doing well and wonder if you still visit this site. -Amanda&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:21:34 -0500</pubDate>
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 <title>same destination, different boat</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;lisa,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;im in the dating scene but im 18 and still in high school which makes it tuff. i could never imagine having a man say those kind of things to you. im still undergoing treatment. no one deserves to get it but some of us are chosen to get it and we are messengers to help teach others about our cancer. i hope you find that man who is okay about discusing what had happend in your past and will be there for you forever..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;emiyann&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:13:45 -0500</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>EmilyAnn</dc:creator>
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 <title>Oh poor hubby - NOT</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;No one says cancer is easy on any family member, husbands included, but yours seems to be more preoccupied with how it all affects his life and not as worried about how this is affecting you - you the person with cancer.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One thing you said near the end of the post really prompted me to write to you and that was when you said that he truns snappy and has little patience because it stops him from getting on with his own life &#039;so I would hate to be ill again&#039;.  You are more worried a recurrance would hamper him?  That&#039;s what you think first?  No this is backwards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First I want to tell you that this isn&#039;t unusual with some partners, as a matter a fact the percentages are high for relationship failure when cancer shows up but of course usually there were issues there before too, cancer just puts an extra strain on things, a big strain.  But some relationships can become stronger through dealing with cancer so that gives the rest of us hope that there are good relationships even in the face of cancer too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That comment your husband made about you &#039;getting on with it&#039; is a big issue with lots of survivors because we can&#039;t &#039;get on with it&#039; in many ways due to trauma or side effects of treatment or just worry about recurrance.  Those are real issues and not to be laughed at or invalidated.  A lot of people do not understand survivors and often that is very hurtful when it is someone close to us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have to say that your husband sounds very insensitive, telling you about all the women who die of it and that their husbands move on, horrible thing to tell you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What if the roles were reversed and he had the cancer?  Would you be there for him, I have a feeling you would be.  Marriage is about the good times and the bad times, not just the convenient times.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you seeing a counsellor about any of this?  I have my doubts your husband would go with you but you never know.  If not then I would really think about going yourself to talk things out with a professional who can give you some really good input on how to deal with this.  Also of course, keep posting on this board, lots of people know and have gone through what you are going through and will understand and validate you.  If your husband is violent then you need to tread lightly with him though and make sure that you are safe at all times.  A lot of us need to talk things through with counsellors now and again, cancer is a trauma and issues come up.  It&#039;s not something you &#039;get over&#039; after treatments are done in many cases.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All the best,&lt;br /&gt;
Bluerose&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:38:02 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>Isolated</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Since I had half my left lung out in December 2008, I did not need chemo or radiotherapy. I feel that people don&#039;t want to know me when they know I have had cancer. My husband says get over it, its done finished. I do not talk to him much about cancer because he does not understand how I feel, I keep it in and just talk to people who have had cancer. Over the months he tells me about all the men at work who&#039;s wife&#039;s have died of cancer and tells me how they have moved on so quickly finding new partners, in a way its good for the men to find a partner and move on but I feel that my husband keeps on telling me about all these women who are dying of cancer and I do not need to hear all this at the moment. I have had another major operation because my last c.t scan shown three more shadows, the good news is that it is not cancer this time but it still takes it out of me having a big operation again and having to depend on my husband to take care of me. My husband can not cope looking after me after any illness or recovery, he turns snappy and has little patience because it stops him getting on with his own life and hobbies so I would hate to be ill again. Fingers crossed and think positive all will be well. &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 04:00:52 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>Gagging is good sometimes</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Bluerose and all others posting here...I am so blessed to be a part of a community of such caring and strong people!&lt;br /&gt;
It occured to me that the gagging we go through thinking of what our spouses have done, or not done as the case may be, is a good thing.  It can purge us of our unwanted thoughts, negative emotions and in some cases even the spouse.&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to kill my husband last year when he was cheating on me with hookers during my recovery from cancer.  I let him know that he had only one shot if he wanted me to stay with him and set very clear boundaries, a move upstate away from the place where he was acting out, a 12 step recovery program, an intensive 4 day treatment and absolutely no porn or acting out of any kind.  So far a year later, he is in compliance with my boundaries but he knows our relationship will never have the kind of blind trust I once had.  That is sad but actions have consequences.  He knows how much he has hurt me and also hurt himself.  I have cried, wailed, screamed and have not held back from letting him know how I feel.&lt;br /&gt;
So far, glory to God, I am cancer free for almost 2 yrs and am also healing emotionally but it will take time.  I wish you all health and happiness.  &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:30:41 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>Gag me with a spoon - ewwww - dating, lol</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;My kids used to use that expression when something grossed them out &#039;gag me with a spoon&#039;.  lol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Notice how many replies there have been to this issue of relationship breakdown and starting again, it&#039;s a big topic for many many survivors.  High rate of divorce in survivors but like any other challenging situation in life it can bring couples closer or pull them wide apart.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have been separated and divorced now I guess going on 10 years, though the thoughts of revenge still often take over me, lol, just kidding of course - cough cough.  lol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cancer alone is a complicated situation as you all know so add another person, any person into the mix in a situation with cancer in the family and it gets just that much more complicated.  Love to hear the stories though of those who have infinite support from their spouses or significant others, it gives the rest of us hope.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you all for sharing on this important personal issue.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Blessings to you all, Bluerose&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:01:26 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>divorce</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Sometimes things go all wrong and you just need to get youself away from it all.If you are looking for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dadsdivorce.com/&gt;divorce advice for men&lt;/a&gt; you should consider checking out http://www.dadsdivorce.com They offer great legal advice for Fathers who are going through a divorce. &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:41:51 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>getting better</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your support.  You are so right, he was a snake who took advantage of my weakness and good nature.  He is still here by my grace and mercy, supposedly working recovery thru 12 steps and went to a 4 day intensive treatment program for sex addiction.  He has been mean to me thru our 34 yr marriage and I stuck it out because of my goodness and compassion, sometimes too much goodness if you know what I mean.  I have told him he has one chance and not to blow it.  I am hoping he gets his act together for his sake because I will survive and trive either way but if he goes out there again I believe he will be dead in a year.  He is an old overweight sick man and he needs me a lot more than I need him. Again my thanks for all the support and encouragement.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:26:51 -0400</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your support.  You are so right, he was a snake who took advantage of my weakness and good nature.  He is still here by my grace and mercy, supposedly working recovery thru 12 steps and went to a 4 day intensive treatment program for sex addiction.  He has been mean to me thru our 34 yr marriage and I stuck it out because of my goodness and compassion, sometimes too much goodness if you know what I mean.  I have told him he has one chance and not to blow it.  I am hoping he gets his act together for his sake because I will survive and trive either way but if he goes out there again I believe he will be dead in a year.  He is an old overweight sick man and he needs me a lot more than I need him. Again my thanks for all the support and encouragement.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:26:51 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>Thanks for saying that...</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Slickwilly - I just read this post of yours and hope you see my response.&lt;br /&gt;
I wish somebody had told me that about men about 25 years ago. Would have saved me a lot of money, heartache and I would probably be living happily in Seattle right now.&lt;br /&gt;
*sigh*&lt;br /&gt;
Fatima&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:32:47 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>Your pain</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;zjrosenthal-&lt;br /&gt;
First of all I haven&#039;t been on this site in quite a while so sorry for the delayed response. Just saw your post tonight.&lt;br /&gt;
It is incredibly hard to deal with both issues at once. Now that over two months have gone by since I found out about my wife&#039;s affair I&#039;m finally past the shock. It would be a shock at any time, but while fighting cancer your attention and guard are really down. I found that focusing on my recovery and needs helped me begin to get thru it. I&#039;m still not there, but believing that you will be fine on your own helps. It also helped my wife see that I would move on from her and she doesn&#039;t want to lose that. I&#039;m not sure if they think we are at a weak moment and can&#039;t react to their choices- but you can.&lt;br /&gt;
I spent many, many days curled up crying over everything and then reached a point where I said enough. It still hurts and I have down days, but I am looking forward for me. If it works out and she wants to be there (and if I want her to) then so be it. If not I&#039;ll make it alone.&lt;br /&gt;
Stay strong and realize that you are a good person and his actions say more about him. It is not a reflection of you. &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:07:39 -0400</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I am so grateful to know that I am not the only one going thru these emotional crisis in my marriage after cancer.  During my anal cancer treatment last fall, my husband was using porn and it was devastating.  Recently I found out he has also been using hookers.  He has even had them in my bed!  I tried so hard to meet his needs after the radiation burns healed but it didnt make a difference to him.  We are now staying at our second home because I cant be in that place where he was doing those awful things with his 20 something hookers.  I am 66 yrs old and have been married for 34 yrs with 4 grown kids and 4 grandkids.  I dont want a divorce and we are in counseling but he was cheating even while going to the counselor.  He says he is willing to go to a 12 step for sex addiction and a 4 day intensive that I will also attend.  I know he is not telling me everything and it is possible that these affairs have been going on thru our marriage.  I am feeling scared and angry and at this point cant seem to get my head on straight.  Pictures of him with these gorgeous young girls wake me up at night with knots in my stomach.  I have been trying to prove to him and myself mostly that I am as good or better than these little babes that he seems to think will make him young again. I am a strong, good woman who has been a faithful wife all through our marriage.  I am also quite good in the marriage bed department if I may say so myself.  I cry and wail constantly unless I am distacted with daily tasks.  I dont know how this will turn out in the end but I am really feeling desperate.  &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:11:41 -0400</pubDate>
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 <title>He&#039;s still here. Will not</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;He&#039;s still here. Will not look for a job all he does all day is play poker on the computer and talk to his girlfriend. I am on depression meds right now.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:32:36 -0400</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>maya00i</dc:creator>
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 <title>Thank you, Jim...</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;for the good wishes.&lt;br /&gt;
First of all, I am a 23+ year breast cancer survivor.  I was first diagnosed in 1986 (at age 38), again in 1988, and a third time in 1996.  I am just fine now and turned 61 this summer.  My marriage has been over for 13+ years, so I have had some time to think through both issues from the perspective that distance offers.&lt;br /&gt;
My ex was the one who broke off the marriage, like a bolt out of the blue, so I had no chance to prepare for it at all.  He was not interested in counseling or anything that might have helped the situation.  He just wanted OUT.&lt;br /&gt;
I had an 11 year old son and a daughter just 6 months married, so my plans had to include what would also help them cope and heal.  But we found solutions that worked for us and moved on, as that was our only option.&lt;br /&gt;
And, yes, in some practical ways I (and my kids) have been &#039;better off&#039; without him, but we also suffer some long-term effects.  My kids have no real connection to their father.  And I have, for various reasons, chosen to remain single.  He stole a lot of things from us when he left, and I am NOT talking about physical possessions, but he became toxic to our mental and emotional health and the time came for us to protect ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;
In fact, I have a lot of wonderful things in my life now that I could not have had if I was still with my ex.  But that does not in any way speak to your situation.  Only you and your wife can decide whether or not you can repair what has been broken, and I agree that a commitment to fidelity and renewed faith in each other are essential elements in a marriage.  Without them the relationship grows into a kind of cancer of its own.  And it can be more deadly than  this other kind we have already experienced.&lt;br /&gt;
God bless. &lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:44:08 -0400</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Five years ago I was diagnosed with kidney cancer. Renal Cell Carcinoma, stage 2 of 3. I had a partial nephrectomy of my right kidney. About a year after, my ex husband had an affair, that&#039;s why he&#039;s my ex. He was never supportive and wouldn&#039;t allow me to talk about the cancer. He said, &quot;If I talked about it, it meant I wanted it to come back!&quot; Yeah right, that was a horrible thing to say. As of now I am cancer free, but will be taking tests soon. Like I typed above, I have entered the dating world. But it&#039;s like when I tell the person I meet that I am a cancer survivor they run the opposite way.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:42:20 -0400</pubDate>
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