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KristynRuth86
KristynRuth86 Member Posts: 140
edited March 2014 in Head and Neck Cancer #1
Well I was all set to start my radiation next week on the 7th. I felt I was pretty prepared for all I had in store thanks to you guys! Well out of the blue they called me Monday to come in on Tuesday to talk with a different Oncologist. So I go and of course my mother tags along. The board of Oncologists decided it would be in my favor to also do Chemo :( 3 bouts of Cisplatin. They said I will definitely lose my hair, which I know is a small price to pay in return for a healthier life, but I can't say I'm not bummed, majorly. I stayed my optimistic self through the appointment, despite my mom being in tears. She just couldn't hold them back! Then the American Cancer Society lady came in with some wigs to try on, it kinda hit me a bit then, but I was still all smiles. Last night I went to bed at about 10:30 and woke up at 1:30 to feed my baby and like a ton of bricks it fell on me. I could not sleep at all last night. It's just so freakin unfair ya kno? I KNOW that I'm lucky to be receiving treatment and that in the end it will be great! I am gonna freak when my hair starts falling out though. Just wanted to share I guess. Anyone have any stories from when their hair started falling out?
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  • D Lewis
    D Lewis Member Posts: 1,581 Member
    Didn't lose my hair
    Hi Kristyn

    I had the eight weeks of radiation with three rounds of Cisplatin for base of tongue cancer with mets to lymph nodes on both sides. So, they gave me pretty high dose Cisplatin (100 ml/m3 or however it is expressed). They told me my hair would fall out. It didn't. Look up Cisplatin on line. Hair loss is not one of the big side effects of this chemo.

    I didn't lose my hair. For a lot of folks here, they didn't lose their hair either, with Cisplatin. My hair did thin out some. It got really brittle and dry, and I would see a lot of it in the drain when I showered. I decided to hold off on buying a wig till it appeared I would need one and I never did. I did cut my hair short, because it wasn't so pretty, and it was easier to care for, and it seemed to look less thin when short. Never got any bald spots. Never had scalp show through.

    Radiation to your throat and neck will cause the infamous "radiation bands" of hair loss at the back of your neck. It makes your hairline higher in the back. I was told that hair lost to radiation would never come back, but mine seems to be.

    I am three months out, and it really took about ten weeks before my hair started growing back in. I just had my hairdresser cut off all the old dead treatment hair. I ended up with a brush cut that is almost as short as Demi Moore's in G.I. Jane. Just wear big dangly earrings and you can pull it off.

    Don't freak out because you have to have chemo. It is one additional step to make sure that the cancer has not and WILL NOT spread further in your body. The anti-nausea meds available now WILL keep you from puking your guts out. I felt lousy for a week after each round, and I needed to take my anti-nausea meds for about six days after each treatment, but I swear, I never puked even once. Didn't even feel nauseated. Ate less. Lost a few pounds. Laid around and read or napped. Lived through it.

    Hang in there, you strong, brave woman, you! You CAN do this! You will come out the other end, and you will pick up your life where you left it off, and go on!

    Deb
  • D Lewis
    D Lewis Member Posts: 1,581 Member
    D Lewis said:

    Didn't lose my hair
    Hi Kristyn

    I had the eight weeks of radiation with three rounds of Cisplatin for base of tongue cancer with mets to lymph nodes on both sides. So, they gave me pretty high dose Cisplatin (100 ml/m3 or however it is expressed). They told me my hair would fall out. It didn't. Look up Cisplatin on line. Hair loss is not one of the big side effects of this chemo.

    I didn't lose my hair. For a lot of folks here, they didn't lose their hair either, with Cisplatin. My hair did thin out some. It got really brittle and dry, and I would see a lot of it in the drain when I showered. I decided to hold off on buying a wig till it appeared I would need one and I never did. I did cut my hair short, because it wasn't so pretty, and it was easier to care for, and it seemed to look less thin when short. Never got any bald spots. Never had scalp show through.

    Radiation to your throat and neck will cause the infamous "radiation bands" of hair loss at the back of your neck. It makes your hairline higher in the back. I was told that hair lost to radiation would never come back, but mine seems to be.

    I am three months out, and it really took about ten weeks before my hair started growing back in. I just had my hairdresser cut off all the old dead treatment hair. I ended up with a brush cut that is almost as short as Demi Moore's in G.I. Jane. Just wear big dangly earrings and you can pull it off.

    Don't freak out because you have to have chemo. It is one additional step to make sure that the cancer has not and WILL NOT spread further in your body. The anti-nausea meds available now WILL keep you from puking your guts out. I felt lousy for a week after each round, and I needed to take my anti-nausea meds for about six days after each treatment, but I swear, I never puked even once. Didn't even feel nauseated. Ate less. Lost a few pounds. Laid around and read or napped. Lived through it.

    Hang in there, you strong, brave woman, you! You CAN do this! You will come out the other end, and you will pick up your life where you left it off, and go on!

    Deb

    Oh, Yeah, and ...
    I just had my three-month PET-CT. ALL the cancer is gone. My Stanford Doc says there is a greater than 95% chance that the cancer will NEVER come back. It was SO worth it. You WILL get to live the rest of your life.

    Deb
  • fisrpotpe
    fisrpotpe Member Posts: 1,349 Member
    I did not
    I did not loose my hair, even after a couple doctors and nurse's all told me I would. I sure hope you do not loose yours.

    Stay Positive.
  • Noellesmom
    Noellesmom Member Posts: 1,859 Member
    hair
    Although I know it seems a small price to pay, hair loss was NOT a side effect of the Cisplatin for my husband. Per his oncologist, Jim received the biggest doses they give. He also had seven weeks of radiation.
    Not sure why your doctors/nurses told you that, KristynRuth, unless they are trying to prepare you for all possibilities, including hair loss.

    I will say that after the birth of each of my children I had hair loss - really, it was more that my hair got thicker while pregnant and went back to normal after their births.

    I think that's more a possibility for you - but the bonus is, you've got a baby to hold!
  • Pam M
    Pam M Member Posts: 2,196
    Is Cisplatin Your Only Chemo Drug?
    I got big doses of Cisplatin during my induction chemo phase, and then had weekly carboplatin with my radiation. My doctor let me know in no uncertain terms that I would lose my hair, and it would be the chemo drug taxotere that I would have to thank. It was the only drug of the three I was on that he said would do it. I was told that the others may cause thinning or weakening, but it wouldn't matter, since my hair was going to fall out. For the record, I did not go completely bald - I had to shave my head, because the patchy look was really creepy - bald looked better. I thought going bald would devastate me - wrong - it turned out to be just another thing - it bugged me sometimes, but nothing like I'd anticipated. Also, hot showers, vigorous brushing, drying and washing encourage breakage and fallout. I had worn my hair very long for years, and now it's short (and thicker, and grayer) and looks better this way (OK, except the gray part). I got my hair cut in a bob before it started coming out, because I couldn't bear the thought of loong hairs falling out all over the place. I still have my radiation bald patch, 5.5 months past treatment - it goes from ear to ear, mid-ear and down. I have a few hairs there, but it's basically bald. Soon, though, my other hair will be long enough to cover it.


    So, hopefully, you won't need the ACS's wig. BUT they offer another service I'd highly recommend. Look good, feel better. Here, they do sessions at hospitals, ACS office, and cancer centers. They give you a bag of beauty and makeup items sorted by skin type. Everyone sits around a table, and gets makeup tips while getting made up, or making themselves up. It's nice, because not only do you get free (some pricey department store items - donated by manufacturers) goodies, you get lots of helpful hints on makeup in general, as well as specific tips for cancer patients while everyone chats (working around rashes, under-eye circles, patchy eyebrows, etc.). It gave me a boost (even though we discovered after I'd already mascara'd one eye that I had lost lots of hairs around the other eye, so actually needed to not use mascara for a while - oh, well - I got a laugh). Phew, now that you've read this post, you probably need a nap.

    And, if you do lose your hair, and you do feel sorry for yourself - you got a right.
  • RushFan
    RushFan Member Posts: 224
    Not for me..
    KristynRuth,
    Sorry you are starting to feel the stress of this terrible process.

    I had seven rounds of Cisplatin, every monday, during my seven weeks of radiation. I did not lose my hair from the chemo. It may have thinned a tiny bit...maybe.

    I did lose some due to radiation on the back of my neck at the collar line. It has grown back.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Nothing But A Thing
    You can do it....Cisplatin isn't as bad (long term) as the radiation anyways in my opinion.

    I did lose my hair, but I was also having nine weeks of it (three week cycles) in addition to Taxotere and 5FU, then an added seven weeks of weekly Carboplatin during the daily head shots of radiation.

    You're a fighter and can handle it, it's nothing but a thing girl....

    Some of the main things with Cisplatin to be aware of are tinnitus, neuropathy and stay hydrated.

    Best,
    John
  • KristynRuth86
    KristynRuth86 Member Posts: 140
    Skiffin16 said:

    Nothing But A Thing
    You can do it....Cisplatin isn't as bad (long term) as the radiation anyways in my opinion.

    I did lose my hair, but I was also having nine weeks of it (three week cycles) in addition to Taxotere and 5FU, then an added seven weeks of weekly Carboplatin during the daily head shots of radiation.

    You're a fighter and can handle it, it's nothing but a thing girl....

    Some of the main things with Cisplatin to be aware of are tinnitus, neuropathy and stay hydrated.

    Best,
    John

    =D
    Wow!! I feel 100% better already!! The doctor had me terrified! I guess they have to give you the worst case scenario, because he told me I would DEFINITELY lose my hair, and that I would be violently naucious! At least now I know there is a good possibly I will be just fine!! Once again y'all have eased my fears lol

    Thank you so much Pam, I hope the ACS has something like that at the hospital I'm at, that sounds really nice!
  • D Lewis
    D Lewis Member Posts: 1,581 Member

    =D
    Wow!! I feel 100% better already!! The doctor had me terrified! I guess they have to give you the worst case scenario, because he told me I would DEFINITELY lose my hair, and that I would be violently naucious! At least now I know there is a good possibly I will be just fine!! Once again y'all have eased my fears lol

    Thank you so much Pam, I hope the ACS has something like that at the hospital I'm at, that sounds really nice!

    Anti-nausea meds
    If they don't offer you several kinds of anti-nausea meds, DEMAND THEM!

    I got three kinds of meds via I.V. just before I was treated each day (emend, aloxi and decadron). I took Emend as pills, before treatments. I took pills afterwards (zofran, compazine for breakthrough nausea, and ativan for extreme nausea). I took them for a full wseek. Ask for these.

    Deb
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member

    =D
    Wow!! I feel 100% better already!! The doctor had me terrified! I guess they have to give you the worst case scenario, because he told me I would DEFINITELY lose my hair, and that I would be violently naucious! At least now I know there is a good possibly I will be just fine!! Once again y'all have eased my fears lol

    Thank you so much Pam, I hope the ACS has something like that at the hospital I'm at, that sounds really nice!

    Violently Naucious!
    LOL, not sure on that, I was prescribed Emend, it's pricy but the best thing ever...I never got sick once with all that I went through.

    Emend is about $150/capsul...but worth every penny if it keeps you from being sick.

    They gave me three capsuls for each thee week cycle (nine total). You take one each day beginning the first day of each cycle (about an hour before).. At least that was my schedule.

    Others on here swear by Emend as well....

    They had me so scared after they gave me the worse case scenarios with each drug also...especially fevers. I told them I was going to stick an electronic meat thermometer in my butt to go off as soon as I reached 100*...LOL, sorry for the Kodak Moment.

    JG
  • CajunEagle
    CajunEagle Member Posts: 408
    D Lewis said:

    Anti-nausea meds
    If they don't offer you several kinds of anti-nausea meds, DEMAND THEM!

    I got three kinds of meds via I.V. just before I was treated each day (emend, aloxi and decadron). I took Emend as pills, before treatments. I took pills afterwards (zofran, compazine for breakthrough nausea, and ativan for extreme nausea). I took them for a full wseek. Ask for these.

    Deb

    Advice...
    Ms. Lewis, you are giving out millions of dollars worth of advice through the personal experiences of all of us. Your ability to "lay it on the line" is truly admirable, and I wish I could remember all the trivial, but highly important facts like you have. Thanks so much for passing it on.

    Larry
  • Pumakitty
    Pumakitty Member Posts: 652
    Hi
    My dad had the same Chemo only 6 rounds. He did not lose his hair at all. He followed the nurses orders and took the anti nausea meds right on schedule. There was only one week at the end that he felt a little bad, that only lasted a day. His radiation did cause him to lose the hair on his face, but it is coming back now.

    I was really upset when I heard he had to have chemo in addition to the rads, but I am glad that he did.

    You will be ok, just follow all of the nurses directions and this will be over before you know it.

    Give the new baby a snuggle for me.

    Kathy
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Hi Kristy


    We understand, just please don’t let it get you depressed keep thinking I am going to be a survivor, I am going to live to see my grandchildren. You are a very strong person this is just a bump in the road of life that some of us have to go through.

    All the best to you.
    Hondo
  • JUDYV5
    JUDYV5 Member Posts: 392
    I didn't lose my hair
    I had 35 radiation treatments and 3 rounds of citsplatin and I did not lose all my hair. I did cut it short, couldn't stand the feeling of the hair bunched up in the mask. It thinned - but it thinned after I had given birth also. (Those many many years ago.) Citsplatin knocked me on my ***. However I was told NED at 7 weeks - so it worked. I had a scc on my hypopharynx that they couldn't remove. The sugeon decided not to remove the
    lymph node if he couldn't remove the tumor. It is unfair that you got the disease. You are strong. By the time that little boy of yours starts trying to sit up you will be finished treatments and feeling good again.
  • Lena Rose
    Lena Rose Member Posts: 73
    Hondo said:

    Hi Kristy


    We understand, just please don’t let it get you depressed keep thinking I am going to be a survivor, I am going to live to see my grandchildren. You are a very strong person this is just a bump in the road of life that some of us have to go through.

    All the best to you.
    Hondo

    Another one who kept hair
    Hi Kristy,

    My husband also went through 7 weeks of cisplatin. The oncologist told him to "COUNT ON LOSING YOUR HAIR." Well, he didn't, it just thinned a bit. Hang in there, stay strong!
  • seahaven
    seahaven Member Posts: 10
    Kristy
    I had Radiation and Cisplatin at the same time. 30 sessions of rad and 3 of cisplatin. I did not loose my hair but it did get pretty thin. The hair on my neck fell out but came back in under two months. I was told that I would not live and I am now cancer free. Hang in there and keep positive.... it won't be long and you will be looking back, holding your baby and this will all be behind you ///// stay positive and prayer helps too.

    Best to you
    ed
  • micktissue
    micktissue Member Posts: 430
    hair loss
    Hey Kristy. I lost hair to radiation, not chemo. The path the rads took through my body are the places that hair fell out. The good news is that it's growing back, albeit slowly. The areas that received the most rads (my neck) are still naked and will most likely stay that way.

    Hair loss due to chemo is symmetrical. With rads the hair loss follows the path of the ray. For months I had a spiral on the back of my head where no hair grew. I looked kind of mangy so I shaved my head to hide the spots.

    Best,

    Mick
  • micktissue
    micktissue Member Posts: 430
    D Lewis said:

    Oh, Yeah, and ...
    I just had my three-month PET-CT. ALL the cancer is gone. My Stanford Doc says there is a greater than 95% chance that the cancer will NEVER come back. It was SO worth it. You WILL get to live the rest of your life.

    Deb

    Great news Deb
    High five!

    Best,

    Mick
  • rush1958
    rush1958 Member Posts: 221 Member
    Hair
    Kristyn,

    Add me to the list of folks who didn't lose their hair to cisplatin.

    I told the doctor up front that I'd shave my head rather than let it fall out to chemo. He told me not to cut my hair. Like others have said, hair loss isn't a major side effect of this drug.

    I concur with the others that you need to stay vigilant on the nausea medications. Take them on schedule. It's much eaisier to prevent than it is to get rid of.

    Rush
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member
    rush1958 said:

    Hair
    Kristyn,

    Add me to the list of folks who didn't lose their hair to cisplatin.

    I told the doctor up front that I'd shave my head rather than let it fall out to chemo. He told me not to cut my hair. Like others have said, hair loss isn't a major side effect of this drug.

    I concur with the others that you need to stay vigilant on the nausea medications. Take them on schedule. It's much eaisier to prevent than it is to get rid of.

    Rush

    Kristyn
    Fear not, girl- you'll be okay. The above advice for Emend is correct, as is having a prescription of Compazine in the ready. I did not do as Rush advises, in that I waited until feeling sick before taking. Worst time was after more sleep than usual, and when I'd first wake-up, due to bad saliva build-up. Only had a couple minor bouts with the vomits, and hope your experience is no worse. And, my hair only thinned, along with losing some in the back at the bottom.

    The best advice I can give is to stay Positive. You might think this'll be difficult, but it can be done. BOTTOM-LINE FACT: YOU ARE GONNA SURVIVE THIS (so get used to it!), and that single fact can be the foundation of everything for you, as you keep your main focus on that light at the end of the treatment tunnel. This is 2010, and great progress has been made. And, not only will you survive, but your post-treatment life will be entirely acceptable, if you let it be. There might very well be rough times ahead for you, but know that many of us have also experienced such times. For me, I kept my Drs. well in the loop as to how I was physically doing, and they provided all the help I needed to get thru the rough times. Would advise you doing the same. You will be okay.

    Believe

    kcass