Mickey Had Surgery...

blonde1
blonde1 Member Posts: 8
edited March 2014 in Head and Neck Cancer #1
Mickey had his surgery on Tuesday, results not good according to the Dr's.
They said the SCC was involved on the Carotid Artery, they removed all they could and also said it had spread to muscle and shoulder, but it was micrscoptic cells.
They actually used a number like 3 months, 6 months, 9 months !!! That was Tuesday, yesterday he was realeased and I again asked the Dr. what he was expecting from chemo and radiation again, and his words were, "hopefully the goal is to slow the SCC"
I am so scared and confussed...He is the picture of health, not even any meds perscribed to leave hospital. I am not sure if we should do radiation again, due to the artery involvment, could cause a stroke ??
HAS ANYONE OUT THERE BEEN DEALT THESE NUMBERS AND SURVIVED WAY BEYOND THE DR'S OPINION ??

Thank You all for your prayers and good wishes,
Hope and Mckey

Comments

  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Hi blonde
    Sorry to hear the news, but don’t give up hope. Question; how they know there are microscopic cancer cells in the muscle and shoulders? I too have about 40% blockage in the Carotid Artery due to the radiation. The numbers 3,6 & 9 months are they talking treatment or what.

    Keep you both in prayer
  • blonde1
    blonde1 Member Posts: 8
    Hondo said:

    Hi blonde
    Sorry to hear the news, but don’t give up hope. Question; how they know there are microscopic cancer cells in the muscle and shoulders? I too have about 40% blockage in the Carotid Artery due to the radiation. The numbers 3,6 & 9 months are they talking treatment or what.

    Keep you both in prayer

    Mickeys Surgery
    Hondo

    The 3, 6 and 9 were survial time period from the Dr's.
    Now, when they realeased him yesterday, I asked the Dr what he expected from more Chemo and Radiation, which I agree with you, as to the radiation, I do not think we should do and he replied, well, "we just do not know, hopefully the chemo will arrest/slow the spread of this rampid SCC he has".
    Nothing, since we started this journey has worked out as they have said and this is one of the top surgeons and staff in California.
    What should we do Hondo !!
    Your cases sound similar.
    As to the microscopic spread, I assmue he saw it when he operated, he said he cut until he had clear margins. But, could not get the entire SCC off the artery.
    Mickey is 63 and very healthy except for this.
    He has 1/2 of his tounge rebuilt, but he still cannot eat or chew, he was living on Enusre and shakes, now due to the surgery he is now on peg feeding, which he is doing himself, which according to the Dr., he should be able to swallow again soon....
    I don't know, so much talk and so little results and hope.
    I do pray, I read your bio and see you are very faithful, but mine is shaken and weak right now, seems anything and everything we pray for goes the opposite way.
    He has had chemo, Eributux and Radiation, finsihed in March or April 2010
    This new cancer showed up on the opposite side of the neck, so they did a wide neck disection last Tuesday.
    Sorry for such a long post, it is just that I feel we you he connect somehow ?

    Hope
  • Greg53
    Greg53 Member Posts: 849
    blonde1 said:

    Mickeys Surgery
    Hondo

    The 3, 6 and 9 were survial time period from the Dr's.
    Now, when they realeased him yesterday, I asked the Dr what he expected from more Chemo and Radiation, which I agree with you, as to the radiation, I do not think we should do and he replied, well, "we just do not know, hopefully the chemo will arrest/slow the spread of this rampid SCC he has".
    Nothing, since we started this journey has worked out as they have said and this is one of the top surgeons and staff in California.
    What should we do Hondo !!
    Your cases sound similar.
    As to the microscopic spread, I assmue he saw it when he operated, he said he cut until he had clear margins. But, could not get the entire SCC off the artery.
    Mickey is 63 and very healthy except for this.
    He has 1/2 of his tounge rebuilt, but he still cannot eat or chew, he was living on Enusre and shakes, now due to the surgery he is now on peg feeding, which he is doing himself, which according to the Dr., he should be able to swallow again soon....
    I don't know, so much talk and so little results and hope.
    I do pray, I read your bio and see you are very faithful, but mine is shaken and weak right now, seems anything and everything we pray for goes the opposite way.
    He has had chemo, Eributux and Radiation, finsihed in March or April 2010
    This new cancer showed up on the opposite side of the neck, so they did a wide neck disection last Tuesday.
    Sorry for such a long post, it is just that I feel we you he connect somehow ?

    Hope

    Hope
    Hope,

    Sorry to hear about the latest news about Mickey. After reading your posts I thought of a book that I read recently. It is "Cancer - The Complete Recovery Guide" by Joanathan Chamberlain. This person is not a medical expert but his wife had cancer. He has put together a list of current orthodox practices along with a thorough list of alternative approaches. He leans very much towards the alternative approaches but does not recommend one. In fact he summarizes by saying at decision time you have the following choices:
    1. Orthodox routine only.
    2. Alternative approaches only.
    3. Orthodox approach first and if that doesn't work, try alternative approaches.
    4. Alternative approaches and if that doesn't work, try orthodox approach.
    5. Combine aternative and orthodox from the start.
    6. Do nothing.

    I did the orthodox approach and I'm doing good, but I'm only 15 weeks out. I'm looking to increase my chances by including some alternative methods. I am not doing anything risky or "too out there", but I want to get the odds in my favor. I'm implementing a better diet, the right supplements and vitamins, getting myself in good physical condition and using breathing and mind/body techniques to help my chances along with being in a support group (Here!). There are a lot of other more aggresive alternative methods also.

    I'm not recommending any of these, but I thought this might be a good tool for you and Mickey, if you're so inclined. From your post it appears you both are fighters and if I was in Mickey's shoes I might look at some the more aggressive approaches in the book as possible options.

    My best to both of you. Positive thoughts coming your way!

    Greg
  • debbiejeanne
    debbiejeanne Member Posts: 3,102 Member
    Hope, I'm so sorry the
    Hope, I'm so sorry the doctors couldn't say something more positive but keep in mind that if God's plan is different, He is the one in control. Try to keep your faith in God and we will all pray for Mickey and you as well.
    God Bless you,
    debbie
  • lady4darknight
    lady4darknight Member Posts: 90 Member
    Greg53 said:

    Hope
    Hope,

    Sorry to hear about the latest news about Mickey. After reading your posts I thought of a book that I read recently. It is "Cancer - The Complete Recovery Guide" by Joanathan Chamberlain. This person is not a medical expert but his wife had cancer. He has put together a list of current orthodox practices along with a thorough list of alternative approaches. He leans very much towards the alternative approaches but does not recommend one. In fact he summarizes by saying at decision time you have the following choices:
    1. Orthodox routine only.
    2. Alternative approaches only.
    3. Orthodox approach first and if that doesn't work, try alternative approaches.
    4. Alternative approaches and if that doesn't work, try orthodox approach.
    5. Combine aternative and orthodox from the start.
    6. Do nothing.

    I did the orthodox approach and I'm doing good, but I'm only 15 weeks out. I'm looking to increase my chances by including some alternative methods. I am not doing anything risky or "too out there", but I want to get the odds in my favor. I'm implementing a better diet, the right supplements and vitamins, getting myself in good physical condition and using breathing and mind/body techniques to help my chances along with being in a support group (Here!). There are a lot of other more aggresive alternative methods also.

    I'm not recommending any of these, but I thought this might be a good tool for you and Mickey, if you're so inclined. From your post it appears you both are fighters and if I was in Mickey's shoes I might look at some the more aggressive approaches in the book as possible options.

    My best to both of you. Positive thoughts coming your way!

    Greg

    Book
    Greg, where did you get this book? I would very much like to read it.

    Thanks, Debbie
  • Greg53
    Greg53 Member Posts: 849
    Greg53 said:

    Hope
    Hope,

    Sorry to hear about the latest news about Mickey. After reading your posts I thought of a book that I read recently. It is "Cancer - The Complete Recovery Guide" by Joanathan Chamberlain. This person is not a medical expert but his wife had cancer. He has put together a list of current orthodox practices along with a thorough list of alternative approaches. He leans very much towards the alternative approaches but does not recommend one. In fact he summarizes by saying at decision time you have the following choices:
    1. Orthodox routine only.
    2. Alternative approaches only.
    3. Orthodox approach first and if that doesn't work, try alternative approaches.
    4. Alternative approaches and if that doesn't work, try orthodox approach.
    5. Combine aternative and orthodox from the start.
    6. Do nothing.

    I did the orthodox approach and I'm doing good, but I'm only 15 weeks out. I'm looking to increase my chances by including some alternative methods. I am not doing anything risky or "too out there", but I want to get the odds in my favor. I'm implementing a better diet, the right supplements and vitamins, getting myself in good physical condition and using breathing and mind/body techniques to help my chances along with being in a support group (Here!). There are a lot of other more aggresive alternative methods also.

    I'm not recommending any of these, but I thought this might be a good tool for you and Mickey, if you're so inclined. From your post it appears you both are fighters and if I was in Mickey's shoes I might look at some the more aggressive approaches in the book as possible options.

    My best to both of you. Positive thoughts coming your way!

    Greg

    Debbie
    Debbie,

    I usually buy my books on-line. Sometimes I go to Barnes & Noble or one of the other bookstores when I want to do some browsing, but that selection is somewhat limited when you're looking for something in particular. Someone gave me this recommendation; forget who, but don't think it was from this site. I think I bought it on Amazon. Got it used if I remember correctly for about 1/2 price. Let me know if you have trouble finding it.

    Greg
  • lady4darknight
    lady4darknight Member Posts: 90 Member
    Greg53 said:

    Debbie
    Debbie,

    I usually buy my books on-line. Sometimes I go to Barnes & Noble or one of the other bookstores when I want to do some browsing, but that selection is somewhat limited when you're looking for something in particular. Someone gave me this recommendation; forget who, but don't think it was from this site. I think I bought it on Amazon. Got it used if I remember correctly for about 1/2 price. Let me know if you have trouble finding it.

    Greg

    Thank you
    Greg, Thank you. I will go online and check Amazon, Barnes and Noble and Borders. Will let you know if I find it.
    Debbie