mistletoe injections hopkins cancer center

Different

Never heard of this  have to  ask my onc next week.

I take Mistle toe extract for

I take Mistle toe extract for the last year.  I am hedging on that it works. 

 

Best Always,  mike

Johns Hopkins

2013:

From the Baltimore Sun:

The mistletoe trial's three phases will take between five to eight years and involve patients with different kinds of cancers and ultimately cost in the millions. Diaz expects that once the trial begins, it will attract other funding. Weleda Group, the Swiss manufacturer of Iscador, is providing the extract free for the trial.

The full story is here:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-09-11/news/ph-om-believe-big-0905-20130911_1_mistletoe-iscador-alternative-cancer-treatment

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04/02/2003	To be frank, there is virtually nothing scientifically known about this. Which also means we don't know if it is harmful or not. When in doubt, steer clear of unknowns like this.

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Benefits are reported by some users of the organization that is paying for the study:

http://www.believebig.org/Blog.html?entry=mistletoe-not-just-for-the

 

The injections have not been proven to do anything as yet, and remain as an experimental alternative to standard chemical therapy and radiation.

 

And it wouldn’t be me typing this, if I didn’t include the comment that Traditional Chinese Medicine has been around for nearly four thousand years; hardly considered “experimental” by any standard.

 

My “blog” here tells my story, and the herbs I’ve researched and used are all listed on that blog.

 

My last surgeon remarked that I should continue using the herbs I had used, since it’s apparently the only reason that he found remnants of dead cancer tumors inside me.

 

“Whatever works”, he added.

 

There are many other ways to fight cancer and perhaps mistletoe injections might be another viable option; only time will tell….

 

In the meantime, anyone can buy the imported medicinal strength herbs I had used, for around 5~6 per pound.  Each pound lasts over a month and a half, and seven herbs were part of the script. Hospitalization for injections were not necessary, since the broth is simply ingested. A TCM practitioner or experienced herbalist should be available as a safety measure, but taken within the prescribed limits, there is nothing known to be unsafe regarding any of the herbs I listed.

 

If and when you’re told that your survival via standard procedures are extremely limited, why not try something that’s actually worked for someone else? How about a few billion “someone elses’”?

 

“Whatever works”.

 

Best wishes for better health to all,

 

John

 

 

atlanticcanada said:

just  s side note  mistletoe

just  s side note  mistletoe also lessens chemo side effects , and helps with a positive mood.

Update?

 

Chemo side effects.

 

 

John23 said:

Johns Hopkins

2013:

From the Baltimore Sun:

The mistletoe trial's three phases will take between five to eight years and involve patients with different kinds of cancers and ultimately cost in the millions. Diaz expects that once the trial begins, it will attract other funding. Weleda Group, the Swiss manufacturer of Iscador, is providing the extract free for the trial.

The full story is here:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-09-11/news/ph-om-believe-big-0905-20130911_1_mistletoe-iscador-alternative-cancer-treatment

___________________________________________

From 2003 – Johns Hopkins:

Ask an Expert is a free question-and-answer service about breast cancer and breast health that is available on weekends. If you'd like to ask a question or comment, please visit us again on Saturday or Sunday. In the meantime, please search the existing topics using the search tool at the top of the page. It's quite possible that one of our many existing topics already addresses your question.

Ask an Expert Home

Forum		Questions	Ask a Question
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Asked	Publicly Submitted Question
04/02/2003	Do you have any information on the benefit (or lack thereof)of Iscador or Mistletoe on breast cancer treatment or prevention of recurrence? Any reason not to take it, that is, harmful effects? Thanks.
Replied	JHU's BreastCenter Reply
04/02/2003	To be frank, there is virtually nothing scientifically known about this. Which also means we don't know if it is harmful or not. When in doubt, steer clear of unknowns like this.

Please note: This service is not intended to provide primary medical advice concerning specific medical care or treatment. Ask an Expert is a free service operated by health care professionals at the Johns Hopkins Avon Foundation Breast Center. Due to the volume of questions and their complexity, there are times when medical oncologists, surgeons, radiation oncologists or oncology nurses are consulted for their input. These individuals volunteer their time for this service and will respond as soon as they are able. Please do not post or send the same question to us in multiple locations or categories.

© The Johns Hopkins University, The Johns Hopkins Hospital, and Johns Hopkins Health System, All rights reserved.

http://www.hopkinsbreastcenter.org/services/ask_expert/viewquestions.asp?id=1725

 

______________________________________________

 

Note:

 

Benefits are reported by some users of the organization that is paying for the study:

http://www.believebig.org/Blog.html?entry=mistletoe-not-just-for-the

 

The injections have not been proven to do anything as yet, and remain as an experimental alternative to standard chemical therapy and radiation.

 

And it wouldn’t be me typing this, if I didn’t include the comment that Traditional Chinese Medicine has been around for nearly four thousand years; hardly considered “experimental” by any standard.

 

My “blog” here tells my story, and the herbs I’ve researched and used are all listed on that blog.

 

My last surgeon remarked that I should continue using the herbs I had used, since it’s apparently the only reason that he found remnants of dead cancer tumors inside me.

 

“Whatever works”, he added.

 

There are many other ways to fight cancer and perhaps mistletoe injections might be another viable option; only time will tell….

 

In the meantime, anyone can buy the imported medicinal strength herbs I had used, for around 5~6 per pound.  Each pound lasts over a month and a half, and seven herbs were part of the script. Hospitalization for injections were not necessary, since the broth is simply ingested. A TCM practitioner or experienced herbalist should be available as a safety measure, but taken within the prescribed limits, there is nothing known to be unsafe regarding any of the herbs I listed.

 

If and when you’re told that your survival via standard procedures are extremely limited, why not try something that’s actually worked for someone else? How about a few billion “someone elses’”?

 

“Whatever works”.

 

Best wishes for better health to all,

 

John

 

 

On the other hand

Mistletoe is widely used in the European countries, yet you don't hear they have significant if any lower cancer death rates then here.

Ofcourse having tried just

Ofcourse having tried just about everything, mistletoe is no exception. U'll find info on it and my experience on my blog.

Personally I don't believe that it does anything for cancer, however it does appear to generally stimulate the immune system. After injections my blood tests would typically show an increase in certain white blood cells. 

manwithnoname said:

YES

and thats why I never used it or TCM, no conclusive evidence, YET it still seems to help SOME people and so far I never heard of any bad side effects, unlike TCM.."Chinese medicine has caused kidney failure and even cancer"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1254746/Chinese-medicine-caused-kidney-failure-cancer-So-safe-popular-cures.html#ixzz2f2AjfyNp 

Misinformation

 

I really love the way some individuals dole out misinformation to satisfy their need to disprove anything they do not understand.

 

The quote posted was taken from this website:

http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/4/281.full

 

And what was neglected to be posted from that article by the poster’s wonderful information efforts, was this:

 

“In the USA, a well-developed country with the increasing cancer incidence and mortality in the last tens of years and higher cancer burden than China, the total cost of cancer in 2005 was US$209.9 billion (7).”

 

When one actually reads the information presented at that website, one would understand that it is the westernization of China and it’s culture that is found to be the cause of the rising rate of all maladies.

 

Children smoking at earlier age, lack of exercise and overeating of foods that are not conducive to good health practices, have all begun with the westernization of this country.

 

The one problem of basic Traditional Chinese Medicine is that it can not make symptoms disappear as fast as western medicine. If one’s quest is to work and make money, that person will not desire to wait for the cause of symptoms to be cured, they will take whatever will remove the debilitating symptom to allow the individual to continue working regardless of the underlying problem.

 

That…. Is the difference between the practice of western medicine and TCM; TCM locates the underlying problem causing the symptoms and attempts to resolve that problem. Western medicine only removes the symptoms of an underlying problem, leaving the real problem to fester and cause a worse condition later on.

 

The continued promotion of misinformation on websites and forums is counterproductive to the promotion of better health. It is industry inspired and promoted and serves only to perpetuate the production of medicines that do nothing to better one’s health.

 

The posting of the so-called “reports of the dangers of Chinese herbs” should not be taken seriously if one understands the dialog they are reading. Water is the necessity for life, but one can also drown in it. Likewise, to cite liver damage from taking an excess of anything does not equate to that substance being too toxic to take when proscribed in the proper amounts. Ingesting an aspirin can thwart a heart attack; ingesting a bottle full can cause death.

 

Common sense should always prevail in life’s venture. When it does not, you get misquotes and misinformation in the form that this misguided poster had presented.

 

Traditional Chinese Medicine is safe. It promotes the building of one’s immune system, while addressing the cause of one’s symptoms. Like any medical practice, it requires that a practitioner has the experience and knowledge to diagnose symptoms accurately, related to their science involved.

 

I was recently misdiagnosed with Pneumonia and “congestive heart failure” by three western medicine physicians. My TCM doc properly diagnosed the symptoms and resolved my problems.

 

There are good and bad in all areas of life, just as there are knowledgeable and objective thinking individuals in all walks of life. Physicians are no exception.

 

Neither are those that post to forums.

My best wishes for better health,

 

John

 

coloCan said:

the following is about a year old:

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-11-mistletoe-treatment-colon-cancer.html

(Don't know if "viscum album" is the same as the "fraxini" spoken of here")

 

Fraxini

Fraxini comes from the ash tree. Most mistletoe used is the iscador m, which us from the apple tree. The mistake tie from the ash tree is available in Europe but hard to find elsewhere, even in Canada. I tried to source it and was advised that you need special permission from the Canadian government to bring it in on a compassionate basis. It is much stronger. I gave used the iscador m since I was diagnosed. I did stop when my white blood cell count dropped from chem and I required nupogen. I am taking mistletoe again now. I can't say if it makes a difference. I now have had a recurrence. But I can say that it substantially reduced my side effects from the folfox. I felt almost normal when sing it along with chemo.