Recurrence Prevention

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  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member

    My take on the diet thing

    is simply that we should nuture our bodies with healthy foods and exercise and avoid things we know are bad for us (cigarettes, processed foods, etc) so we'll be as healthy as possible for whatever comes our way.  And we will all have a health crisis some time.  It doesn't have to be cancer!  And on occasion, we need to nuture our psyche and have that meal or dessert that gives us sublime pleasure.   And I actually practiced that after my diagnosis.  And I felt really good (except when I was on chemo).   For the past year,  eating healthy and exercising has become an occasional experience rather than the norm and that is not making me happy or healthy.   

     Anti Cancer - A New Way of Life by Dr. Servan-Shriver is an excellent book and gives you plenty of food for thought.

    I wish us all the abiity to live as healthy a lifestyle as we can - however we define that.

    By the way, my cancers were caused by running behind the mosquito abatement trucks and playing in the fog as a child!  And if you believe that  . . . .

    Suzanne

    Suzanne, are you from the

    Suzanne, are you from the South?  My husband used to bicycle behind the mosquito fog to get a good blast.  He speaks fondly of the old smell (yuck). Lol, he has never had cancer. Wink 

  • PennyJ
    PennyJ Member Posts: 31
    some thoughts about breast cancer risk

    My only risk factors for breast cancer were being overweight and having an aunt and a great aunt with the disease.  I agree also that so far we don't seem to have a good map to follow for preventing recurrance or for not getting cancer in the first place.  The one thing that does concern me is that excess body fat apparently produces estrogen, having had an estrogen receptor positive tumor.  I am in complete menopause now (at age 48) and am faithfully taking my Arimidex but have been trying to lose some weight in hopes of improving my chances a not having a recurrance.  That being said, I'm going to be really cranky if I deprive myself and end up with a recurrance anyway, so I do think moderation with some cheesecake (and I'd love to try bananas foster!) is the way for me!

  • Unhappy
    Unhappy Member Posts: 88
    Sometime I don't think it make any difference as to who

    get cancer and who don't  What we eat ,what we drink , what in the air all can be bad .I do try to eat health I am a dibetic and have to watch what I eat but it is what if should of been doing before I got dibetis.I do try to walk every day 20min or more I like going up hill it give me a better workout.As for cancer returning I am like you I don;t want to wast my time thinking about it but I do keep doing what the doctor says to do .If cancer returns I will deal with it then.

  • SIROD
    SIROD Member Posts: 2,194 Member
    PennyJ said:

    some thoughts about breast cancer risk

    My only risk factors for breast cancer were being overweight and having an aunt and a great aunt with the disease.  I agree also that so far we don't seem to have a good map to follow for preventing recurrance or for not getting cancer in the first place.  The one thing that does concern me is that excess body fat apparently produces estrogen, having had an estrogen receptor positive tumor.  I am in complete menopause now (at age 48) and am faithfully taking my Arimidex but have been trying to lose some weight in hopes of improving my chances a not having a recurrance.  That being said, I'm going to be really cranky if I deprive myself and end up with a recurrance anyway, so I do think moderation with some cheesecake (and I'd love to try bananas foster!) is the way for me!

    For PennyJ

    Since we come in all sizes, skinny, medium, large, x-large, I don't believe anyone should feel guilty because it is not a real cause in why we are diagnose with breast cancer.   The bottom line is they simply don't know the cause of breast cancer.

     

    In the area of "Statistics for Breast Cancer" - the following:

     

    Causes:  Metastasis happens despite vigilance and precautions.  Healthy lifestyles, timely screening and early detection are no guarantee a person will not metastasize.  Even stage 0 patients metastasize.

     

    http://www.metavivor.org/Awareness_Stats.html

     

     I doubt that I will ever have a Bananas Foster and thank you Cypress Cynthia for posting it.  I enjoyed it without gaining a calorie. Smile

     

    Best,

     

    Doris

     

  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member
    SIROD said:

    For PennyJ

    Since we come in all sizes, skinny, medium, large, x-large, I don't believe anyone should feel guilty because it is not a real cause in why we are diagnose with breast cancer.   The bottom line is they simply don't know the cause of breast cancer.

     

    In the area of "Statistics for Breast Cancer" - the following:

     

    Causes:  Metastasis happens despite vigilance and precautions.  Healthy lifestyles, timely screening and early detection are no guarantee a person will not metastasize.  Even stage 0 patients metastasize.

     

    http://www.metavivor.org/Awareness_Stats.html

     

     I doubt that I will ever have a Bananas Foster and thank you Cypress Cynthia for posting it.  I enjoyed it without gaining a calorie. Smile

     

    Best,

     

    Doris

     

    Doris ( and everyone else),

    Doris ( and everyone else), You never know when you may come down to New Orleans!  Contact me if you do and we will "pass a good time" (that's Cajun talk).  The Fench Quarter and Uptown were never hit by Hurricane Katrina because they are high ground, so to speak.  And , after the Super Bowl, the city should be looking especially nice then.  Just don't come in the summer.  It is too hot! 

  • MsGebby
    MsGebby Member Posts: 659

    My take on the diet thing

    is simply that we should nuture our bodies with healthy foods and exercise and avoid things we know are bad for us (cigarettes, processed foods, etc) so we'll be as healthy as possible for whatever comes our way.  And we will all have a health crisis some time.  It doesn't have to be cancer!  And on occasion, we need to nuture our psyche and have that meal or dessert that gives us sublime pleasure.   And I actually practiced that after my diagnosis.  And I felt really good (except when I was on chemo).   For the past year,  eating healthy and exercising has become an occasional experience rather than the norm and that is not making me happy or healthy.   

     Anti Cancer - A New Way of Life by Dr. Servan-Shriver is an excellent book and gives you plenty of food for thought.

    I wish us all the abiity to live as healthy a lifestyle as we can - however we define that.

    By the way, my cancers were caused by running behind the mosquito abatement trucks and playing in the fog as a child!  And if you believe that  . . . .

    Suzanne

    I remember

    the mosquito spray trucks and doing what you did too Suzanne.  I also remember a DuPont Plant exploding in my neighborhood when I was about 10 or 11.  I can't imagine how many chemicals invaded my body through both methods.  But I have to ask "why only me in my family?"

    My daughters cannot believe for one second that they might be targeted.  I can't believe they can get this.  If I was afflicted due to my environment, then they are pretty much going to be OK.  Since I am the first in my family to have cancer, BRCA was not performed.  SO I have no idea if I have a gene that passes along to my children.  I just pray they will be spared.

     

    As for trying to prevent a recurrence....sometimes I just think it's impossible.  Other times, I convince myself it was a fluke and that it will never return.  

    I pray that our scientists can find a way to stop this beast.  To leave it up to the victims to figure out how to stop it from coming back is just a cruel as having the disease.  

     

  • MsGebby
    MsGebby Member Posts: 659
    Unhappy said:

    Sometime I don't think it make any difference as to who

    get cancer and who don't  What we eat ,what we drink , what in the air all can be bad .I do try to eat health I am a dibetic and have to watch what I eat but it is what if should of been doing before I got dibetis.I do try to walk every day 20min or more I like going up hill it give me a better workout.As for cancer returning I am like you I don;t want to wast my time thinking about it but I do keep doing what the doctor says to do .If cancer returns I will deal with it then.

    I Hear ya

    No need to cross THAT bridge if it isn't built!  I just thought it was a topic worth discussing.  I am so sick of folks telling me how to eat, when to eat, when to excercise, what excercise I should be doing ...  

    I don't talk about cancer like I used to.  It's a bad memory.  So when I am asked how I am feeling, I usually don't equate that question with cancer.  I refuse to.  

    I don't like to talk about cancer.  It's just too unpleasant.  I can't deal with it. I don't want to deal with.  I filed it under NEVER AGAIN and there it will stay.

    I guess having had cancer, I am predisposed to a recurrence.  But I know a few ladies who told me they have been cancer free for 10, 15, and even 20 years.  So I know I that can be my destiny too.

    Wishing you good health 

    Mary

  • disneyfan2008
    disneyfan2008 Member Posts: 6,583 Member
    My sister did the same with

    My sister did the same with my Mom..(she died 6+ yrs ago but no cancer) MY sister would make her drink (daily even if staying with me post hospital stays) home made (nasty looking) juice. (green slime to me) MY mom I must say was JUNK JUNK JUNK food eater and ate like a child (burger and fries, corn)

     

    MY mom just appeased her..and then ate what she wanted...lol... to this day rest of family chuckle over her having health drink in one hand and soda in the other..

     

    Denise

  • CypressCynthia
    CypressCynthia Member Posts: 4,014 Member

    My sister did the same with

    My sister did the same with my Mom..(she died 6+ yrs ago but no cancer) MY sister would make her drink (daily even if staying with me post hospital stays) home made (nasty looking) juice. (green slime to me) MY mom I must say was JUNK JUNK JUNK food eater and ate like a child (burger and fries, corn)

     

    MY mom just appeased her..and then ate what she wanted...lol... to this day rest of family chuckle over her having health drink in one hand and soda in the other..

     

    Denise

    Life can be such a crap

    Life can be such a crap shoot. Danny's mom used to fuss about Danny's grandmother's (Mimi) coca cola habit.  She said it was going to kill her drinking those awful sodas.  Well Mimi lived to be 95 and died in her own little apartment (not assisted living).  She was overweight but healthy until she died.  His mom is 80 but really struggling with dementia, hypertension and epilepsy and is in assisted living.  Go figure!

  • hope4thebest
    hope4thebest Member Posts: 108
    MsGebby said:

    I Hear ya

    No need to cross THAT bridge if it isn't built!  I just thought it was a topic worth discussing.  I am so sick of folks telling me how to eat, when to eat, when to excercise, what excercise I should be doing ...  

    I don't talk about cancer like I used to.  It's a bad memory.  So when I am asked how I am feeling, I usually don't equate that question with cancer.  I refuse to.  

    I don't like to talk about cancer.  It's just too unpleasant.  I can't deal with it. I don't want to deal with.  I filed it under NEVER AGAIN and there it will stay.

    I guess having had cancer, I am predisposed to a recurrence.  But I know a few ladies who told me they have been cancer free for 10, 15, and even 20 years.  So I know I that can be my destiny too.

    Wishing you good health 

    Mary

    stay happy

    my Grandmother was also a cancer survivor.  SHe had a mastectomy and radiation in her 80's, and that was back in the 1990's.  She survived and flourished in her later years.  She had the best attitude, and I think that is what kept her alive for so long.  She did what made her happy-- spending time with her son, staying in her own home instead of a 'home'.  We shared much love with her in our small family, but that kept her spirits high.  Stay happy, only you know how-- no need to listen to others.

  • sea60
    sea60 Member Posts: 2,613
    Mary, when I got the

    diagnosis, I just remember hearing my brother in law's words..."stop drinking diet cokes, they gonna kill you!" I just felt the NEED for answers. What did I do or eat to cause this? No one in my family had it although my Father is a colon cancer survivor and I have read a few articles linking colon/breast cancer. Anyway, as many of you stated, I  believe there are many factors that play a part in the development of cancer. Stress, obesity, genes, environment...etc. My dear mother blamed a drug she took back in the 60's to keep from miscarrying me labeled DES. It was touted as some vitamin so she took it for a few months. Not long after it was found to cause abnormalities and yes, possibly breast cancer.

    All in all, I do believe a good diet of fruits and vegetables, fish, lean meats and chicken and the "occasional" indulgence can only do your body good as opposed to high sugar and fat that can be found in a lot of processed foods. My doctor told me that she sees many breast cancer survivors develop diabetes as she feels the organs have been compromised with such heavy duty drugs so it's crucial to watch the sugar intake. I have such a sweet tooth so that's a challenge. Dark chocolate 82% with low sodium almonds...in moderation of course.

    I personally believe demographics play a part in my cancer. We lived close to an air force base growing up and years later there were rumors of toxic waste in and around our area. As of today, practically every household had someone with cancer. Not only in my parents generation, but in their children. That just doesn't sound like some coinsidence.

    I'm just curious as to WHY breast cancer has increased so much in the past 10 years? Is it computers? Could it be the lead-laden purses we carry close to our breasts? Plastic water bottles? Who knows? It's frustrating as heck when I hear of yet another person diagnosed.

     

     

  • RozHopkins
    RozHopkins Member Posts: 578 Member
    Hi

    My hubby is the greatest.  However, he doesn't understand what it takes to keep the weight off at my age plus Tamoxien.  Those who dont put on weight are so lucky.  I certainly did.  My doctor and oncologist said I will not get rid of tummy, now two tummies..........  I have to say recently I did a little more exercise than normal, slightly different diet and am finally loosing weight. 

    I wont eat anything I dont like, so found healthier things I enjoy, made all the difference.  Walk a mile at the gym daily or outside of course for those who prefer.  (tread mills boring)  One mile doesn't take long so suits me.  Pilates twice a week (excellent for strength) and Yoga three times a week (my joints have never been this pain free for years).  All these things must be done properly ie warm ups, cool downs, positioning and posture so as not to get injuries.  The one other thing I do and it takes 10 mins max a day before or after a class is 200 situps for our tummies.  This sounds a lot, but when using the little sit up frame at gym or the ones you can buy they support the head and neck well and make it easy.  I could only do a few when I started now dont even feel breathless.

     

    This all sounds a lot.  But in fact when I attend a class the other stuff adds on an additional 30 mins max.  Plus I ENJOY it.  I have had a painful shoulder for two and a half years, realized something I had been doing wrongly and built up the shoulder muscle with correcting Yoga moves.  I am pain free now.  Bad posture all my life.

    Finally food.  I do not like the vitimin craze here.  I do take Calcium and that is it.  Eat sardines, kippers on toast.  Fish Oil tablets have been found not to work well.  I jazz up salads with adding a little Wasabi for a kick.  Still have potatoes, bread (the healthiest I could find) but also treat myself with the bad stuff sometimes, make desicious soups from scratch.  I do not like chicken, find it very bland, unless cooked on the bone.  Dark chocolate, is good for you, just a bit and almonds, not too many.  Loads of vegetables, I luckily like cabbage, turnips, parsnips, cauliflower, etc. etc.  Yes I have steak, lamb and mince just not a huge amount.  My vice is strong tea and I enjoy a glass or two of wine.  Always decaf coffee but decaf tea is gross.  Pasta and rice in moderation.  All sauces, tinned veg, tinned soups, and a lot of cereals are bad for you.  The salt etc is not good at all.  So I make all sauces, gravies from scratch.  Let me tell you, red pepper soup is great and made in minutes, mushroom soup is delicious and made in minutes.  My husband loves my black bean soup and carrot and ginger.  A good thickner is spinnach, cornstarch rather than flour.

    Sorry to go on.  It took me a while to get there, just wanted to share.

     

     

     

  • burcu123
    burcu123 Member Posts: 66
    there are clues about what causes breast cancer

    It is not totally understood what causes breast cancer. However there are very good clues. This is a disease that has been decribed in ancient Egyptian writtings.

    There are women who are genetically predisposed tothe disease, like women with BRCA 1 and BRCA 2 mutations. These genes help repair DNA and when defective DNA can not be repaired effectively causing cancer. Women with these mutations are also morelikely to have ovarian and colon cancers.

    So far evidence suggests that for other majority of women, prolonged Estrogen exposure seems to be the main reason. Estrogen has been declared by NIH to be a class one cancerogen. Breast cancer cases has increased tremendously in our modern world, because women are exposed to huge amounts of estrogen. this estrogen is mainly coming from inside our own  body. Effect of estrogen we get true plastics, and chemicals etc are actually not the main cause. It is true some in some areas poluted water has caused high incidences of cancer, many such areas are military bases.

    Today women have less children , at a later age , breast fed less often and shorter, mensturate a longer period of time. just 100 years ago , women started having periods much later age, shortly after they were married, get pregnant, there was nothing as formula ( at least most part of the world), so either they breast fed or the baby died ( cow milk was not a very good substitude and even finding clean constant supply of cow milk was difficult), Women were not supposed to have this long a mensturial period. It is estimated that 100 years ago most women had a total of 300 to 500 peroids at their life time, while today women on average have 1500 to 2000 periods per life time, tremedously increasing their estrogen exposure.

    Let me give you two examples from animal world. Did you know if not spayed 1 out of every 4 dog will develop breast cancer. If a dog is spayed before it's 2nd heat , chances of a dog developing breast cancer goes down to less than 1%. Same applies for mice, if a mice had it's ovaries taken out at an early age it will not develop breast cancer. These clearly show the cause of estrogen on breast cancer

    Human studies show that bilateral removal of ovaries decrease breast cancer risk in general by 50%( earlier they are removed higher the decrease) Also women with higher estrogen levels has much higher risk for breast cancer. If a women has high levels of both estrogen , progesterone and testestoren her cahnces of breast cancer increases 6 fold.

    It is not this simple offcourse there might be many contributing factors, Still estrogen is one of the top causes of breast cancer.

    Estrogen is good for women too, it gives us all the characteristics of a women, it decreases chances of heart disease, it probably makes us more social, loving, caring and smart too. But there has to be a balalnce like everything some is good too much of it is not good.

    Prevention and recurrence of breast cancer is possible , especially for estrogen driven ER positive cancers. Sisters and daughters of breast cancer patients are increased risk, their chances can be decreased by anti-estrogen medications, like tamoxiphen, raloxiphen and Arimidex. Please do not burry your heads in the sand and think it was a fluke it is not going to happen to mey daugter or sister. It may not, but it may and it definetly does not hurt if they consider and discuss chemoprevention with their physicians

     

  • laughs_a_lot
    laughs_a_lot Member Posts: 1,368 Member
    Mary
    One thing is for sure. You have reached the age in life where you should be doing as you please. I am the same age. I am lucky as my kids have not tried to insinuate what I should or should not do or eat. Formerly I felt like you, that I had to please others prior to my being happy. However, I have come to realize that there will always be someone who complains about the way I go about living my life. I find this funny because I am quite the goody two shoes person, and my brothers thought I should have been a nun. Fear is behind thier comments. Do your best to care for yourself in the way that brings you the most pleasure while doing so. Then let the rest go. Remind people that God gave you a free will and you intend to exercise it.
  • MsGebby
    MsGebby Member Posts: 659

    Mary
    One thing is for sure. You have reached the age in life where you should be doing as you please. I am the same age. I am lucky as my kids have not tried to insinuate what I should or should not do or eat. Formerly I felt like you, that I had to please others prior to my being happy. However, I have come to realize that there will always be someone who complains about the way I go about living my life. I find this funny because I am quite the goody two shoes person, and my brothers thought I should have been a nun. Fear is behind thier comments. Do your best to care for yourself in the way that brings you the most pleasure while doing so. Then let the rest go. Remind people that God gave you a free will and you intend to exercise it.

    I LOVE

    your post!  Your last sentence says it all!!!  

    I agree with you (and the others) that I should be able to do as I please and not worry about making others happy.  I think I am pretty smart and have a good handle on what is good for me and whatnot.  Having a life threatening diagnosis has made me just want to "live free".  Live free of stress, sadness, negativity, etc.  I deserve to lead my life my way as long as I am not hurting others.

     

    Thnaks so much everyone!

  • New Flower
    New Flower Member Posts: 4,294
    sea60 said:

    Mary, when I got the

    diagnosis, I just remember hearing my brother in law's words..."stop drinking diet cokes, they gonna kill you!" I just felt the NEED for answers. What did I do or eat to cause this? No one in my family had it although my Father is a colon cancer survivor and I have read a few articles linking colon/breast cancer. Anyway, as many of you stated, I  believe there are many factors that play a part in the development of cancer. Stress, obesity, genes, environment...etc. My dear mother blamed a drug she took back in the 60's to keep from miscarrying me labeled DES. It was touted as some vitamin so she took it for a few months. Not long after it was found to cause abnormalities and yes, possibly breast cancer.

    All in all, I do believe a good diet of fruits and vegetables, fish, lean meats and chicken and the "occasional" indulgence can only do your body good as opposed to high sugar and fat that can be found in a lot of processed foods. My doctor told me that she sees many breast cancer survivors develop diabetes as she feels the organs have been compromised with such heavy duty drugs so it's crucial to watch the sugar intake. I have such a sweet tooth so that's a challenge. Dark chocolate 82% with low sodium almonds...in moderation of course.

    I personally believe demographics play a part in my cancer. We lived close to an air force base growing up and years later there were rumors of toxic waste in and around our area. As of today, practically every household had someone with cancer. Not only in my parents generation, but in their children. That just doesn't sound like some coinsidence.

    I'm just curious as to WHY breast cancer has increased so much in the past 10 years? Is it computers? Could it be the lead-laden purses we carry close to our breasts? Plastic water bottles? Who knows? It's frustrating as heck when I hear of yet another person diagnosed.

     

     

    Cup of Raspberries or Cupcake?

    Cup of Raspberries instead Cupcake? maybe both while walking?

    Let's encourage everyone, who is utilizing any valuble prevention idea, including healthy approach to life

    Er+ Ladies

    please do not forget that TNBC survivors have only diet, physical excersises, and happiness as prvention tools at their disposal. 

    Cheers to all

  • Lilly2013
    Lilly2013 Member Posts: 12
    Prevention is the cure

    Your daughter is brilliant!!  www.naturalnews.com Prevention of cancer and other diseases is the real cure. Of course, once disease enters the body, we search for a cure. Diet is the key to prevention. If you eat the right foods, those foods will give you the nutrients necessary to prevent disease, and to heal and restore the body to normal functioning, much like a plant.

    If you start reading the information on the website above, you will learn more about living a full, abundant life, rather than being sick. Our creator never meant for us to be constantly sick, or fearing disease.

  • Lilly2013
    Lilly2013 Member Posts: 12

    Mary I get the same stuff

    Mary I get the same stuff from my husband, and yes it is frustrating.  For Christmas he gave me a book called "Beating Cancer with Nutrition".  I flipped through it and read a little here and there.  When he asked what I thought of it, I told him the author needed to get his facts straight, and the recipies should match what he preached.  (I did get some other good stuff though.)

    A doctor once told me that an average lunch of a sandwich, side dish, and beverage (healthy or not) contains about 10,000 different chemicals.  How does anyone say which chemical, or combinations of chemicals, feeds/helps kill cancer?  That is further complicated by our own individual biologies.

    Cancer is also one of the oldest known diseases, if it were as easy as changing our diet and exercising...don't you think we would no longer have cancer?

    So with these things in mind, I choose to travel the path of moderation.  I don't drink though.  Since my stupid party days, it hasn't had much appeal.  Then CC posted a really good article about alcohol and cancer.  Hopefully she will see this and repost it.  I do have a hard time with the exercise thing these days...

    I hope this helps you.

    Hugs,

    Linda

     

    Food and disease

    I now it is difficult for Americans to understand the relationship between what we ingest and disease. But this is the TRUTH. The chemicals you place in your body will either nourish and maintain your body until old age, or you will degenerate much faster. Please study "nutrition". If you start at a young age correcting the nutrtional deficiencies you now have as a young person, you will be a much healthier person in your middle to elder years. Anything less is a growing dietary deficiency that will destroy your body.

  • SIROD
    SIROD Member Posts: 2,194 Member
    burcu123 said:

    there are clues about what causes breast cancer

    It is not totally understood what causes breast cancer. However there are very good clues. This is a disease that has been decribed in ancient Egyptian writtings.

    There are women who are genetically predisposed tothe disease, like women with BRCA 1 and BRCA 2 mutations. These genes help repair DNA and when defective DNA can not be repaired effectively causing cancer. Women with these mutations are also morelikely to have ovarian and colon cancers.

    So far evidence suggests that for other majority of women, prolonged Estrogen exposure seems to be the main reason. Estrogen has been declared by NIH to be a class one cancerogen. Breast cancer cases has increased tremendously in our modern world, because women are exposed to huge amounts of estrogen. this estrogen is mainly coming from inside our own  body. Effect of estrogen we get true plastics, and chemicals etc are actually not the main cause. It is true some in some areas poluted water has caused high incidences of cancer, many such areas are military bases.

    Today women have less children , at a later age , breast fed less often and shorter, mensturate a longer period of time. just 100 years ago , women started having periods much later age, shortly after they were married, get pregnant, there was nothing as formula ( at least most part of the world), so either they breast fed or the baby died ( cow milk was not a very good substitude and even finding clean constant supply of cow milk was difficult), Women were not supposed to have this long a mensturial period. It is estimated that 100 years ago most women had a total of 300 to 500 peroids at their life time, while today women on average have 1500 to 2000 periods per life time, tremedously increasing their estrogen exposure.

    Let me give you two examples from animal world. Did you know if not spayed 1 out of every 4 dog will develop breast cancer. If a dog is spayed before it's 2nd heat , chances of a dog developing breast cancer goes down to less than 1%. Same applies for mice, if a mice had it's ovaries taken out at an early age it will not develop breast cancer. These clearly show the cause of estrogen on breast cancer

    Human studies show that bilateral removal of ovaries decrease breast cancer risk in general by 50%( earlier they are removed higher the decrease) Also women with higher estrogen levels has much higher risk for breast cancer. If a women has high levels of both estrogen , progesterone and testestoren her cahnces of breast cancer increases 6 fold.

    It is not this simple offcourse there might be many contributing factors, Still estrogen is one of the top causes of breast cancer.

    Estrogen is good for women too, it gives us all the characteristics of a women, it decreases chances of heart disease, it probably makes us more social, loving, caring and smart too. But there has to be a balalnce like everything some is good too much of it is not good.

    Prevention and recurrence of breast cancer is possible , especially for estrogen driven ER positive cancers. Sisters and daughters of breast cancer patients are increased risk, their chances can be decreased by anti-estrogen medications, like tamoxiphen, raloxiphen and Arimidex. Please do not burry your heads in the sand and think it was a fluke it is not going to happen to mey daugter or sister. It may not, but it may and it definetly does not hurt if they consider and discuss chemoprevention with their physicians

     

    For Burcu123

    Dear Burcu123,

     

    The cause of breast cancer is not known.  I'm not sure all the clues are in, even if they have a toe hold on some. 

     

     Breast cancer cases has increased tremendously in our modern world, because women are exposed to huge amounts of estrogen. this estrogen is mainly coming from inside our own  body. Effect of estrogen we get true plastics, and chemicals etc are actually not the main cause. It is true some in some areas poluted water has caused high incidences of cancer, many such areas are military bases.

     

    Since breast cancer is the oldest recorded disease in history, dating back to 490 b.c., I don't believe your take on it shows a lot of validity.

     

    There is a reason why the medical establishment does not give serious drugs out haphazardly as you suggest with Tamoxifen and etc.  These drugs have very serious side effects.

     

    Doris

  • SIROD
    SIROD Member Posts: 2,194 Member
    Lilly2013 said:

    Prevention is the cure

    Your daughter is brilliant!!  www.naturalnews.com Prevention of cancer and other diseases is the real cure. Of course, once disease enters the body, we search for a cure. Diet is the key to prevention. If you eat the right foods, those foods will give you the nutrients necessary to prevent disease, and to heal and restore the body to normal functioning, much like a plant.

    If you start reading the information on the website above, you will learn more about living a full, abundant life, rather than being sick. Our creator never meant for us to be constantly sick, or fearing disease.

    for Lilly2013

    One can not prevent when one does not know the real cause of breast cancer.  

    Breast cancer is the oldest recorded disease in history, dating back to 490 b.c.  I am certain that all the women and men over these years have tried different food to cure their disease.  If food was the answer to prevent breast cancer, more than likely this disease would no longer be a problem.

    I am glad you believe that you have the answer but it sounds like your promoting a web site.

    Doris