Another tumor

cindiboy
cindiboy Member Posts: 5
I just went for my 6 month CT scan and another tumor the size of a quarter was found in my left kidney, very close to where the one I had removed was located. My doctor gave me 3 options. 1) biopsy, which he said is only 50% accurate. 2) surgery to remove it, which would be an open surgery since last one was laproscopic and there would be a lot of scar tissue. 3) wait 4 to 6 mo.have another ct scan to see if it grows or changes.

In case you cant see my previous posts, I had a tumor the same size removed from left kidney using laproscopic surgery and it was benign. I also had a complicated cyst removed with open surgery and it was benign. Both surgeries the past summer.

Any advice or experience with this?

Comments

  • icemantoo
    icemantoo Member Posts: 3,361 Member
    Advice
    Dear cindiboy,

    You present an unusual diagnosis and past history. If I were in your shoes I would seek a second opinion from another Doctor as I doubt the answer to your diagnosis is cut and dry and even your initial recommendation is not cut and dry. As much as I woukd like to offer an opinion I would not feel comfortable on you relying on any thing I say.

    With that said, my hopes and prayers are with you for a full and complete recovery..

    Icemanyoo
  • Texas_wedge
    Texas_wedge Member Posts: 2,798
    icemantoo said:

    Advice
    Dear cindiboy,

    You present an unusual diagnosis and past history. If I were in your shoes I would seek a second opinion from another Doctor as I doubt the answer to your diagnosis is cut and dry and even your initial recommendation is not cut and dry. As much as I woukd like to offer an opinion I would not feel comfortable on you relying on any thing I say.

    With that said, my hopes and prayers are with you for a full and complete recovery..

    Icemanyoo

    Options
    My two cents says NO to 1) and prefer 3) over 2) (for reasons I've stated before plus the benign nature of the earlier lesion). That said, I wouldn't demur from iceman's suggestion that with such a history you might like to seek a second opinion.

    It's an interesting question as to just how unusual this may be. We would tend not to hear about all the cases where what is removed turns out to be benign. We know tumours are being created and destroyed all the time in our bodies and only sometimes get out of control.
  • foxhd
    foxhd Member Posts: 3,181 Member

    Options
    My two cents says NO to 1) and prefer 3) over 2) (for reasons I've stated before plus the benign nature of the earlier lesion). That said, I wouldn't demur from iceman's suggestion that with such a history you might like to seek a second opinion.

    It's an interesting question as to just how unusual this may be. We would tend not to hear about all the cases where what is removed turns out to be benign. We know tumours are being created and destroyed all the time in our bodies and only sometimes get out of control.

    options.
    I would think about finding a specialist in nephrology that you haven't seen. I also wonder why a treatment can't be given in the meantime, just in case? Maybe low dose sutent or votrient. Then watch and see.
  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    foxhd said:

    options.
    I would think about finding a specialist in nephrology that you haven't seen. I also wonder why a treatment can't be given in the meantime, just in case? Maybe low dose sutent or votrient. Then watch and see.

    Options...
    Cindiboy,

    I'd avoid a biopsy, too unreliable and potentially dangerous. Your history of benign growths suggests that a wait and see approach is a reasonable choice over more surgery. I also agree with fox's proactive suggestion of possible treatment while you wait, just in case.
  • cindiboy
    cindiboy Member Posts: 5
    What kind of treatments are
    What kind of treatments are y'all talking about? Chemotherapy? If I get a 2nd opinion should I get new tests or ask them to be forwarded to new doctor?

    Thank you so much for responses. My husband won't really talk about it too much so I don't really have anyone to talk to about this
  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    cindiboy said:

    What kind of treatments are
    What kind of treatments are y'all talking about? Chemotherapy? If I get a 2nd opinion should I get new tests or ask them to be forwarded to new doctor?

    Thank you so much for responses. My husband won't really talk about it too much so I don't really have anyone to talk to about this

    What kind of treatments
    cindyboy,

    No, not chemo, fox mentioned two drugs, sutent and votrient, there are others. It would be a question for your doctors as to what might work best in your situation with a minimum of side effects.
  • garym
    garym Member Posts: 1,647
    cindiboy said:

    What kind of treatments are
    What kind of treatments are y'all talking about? Chemotherapy? If I get a 2nd opinion should I get new tests or ask them to be forwarded to new doctor?

    Thank you so much for responses. My husband won't really talk about it too much so I don't really have anyone to talk to about this

    What kind of treatments
    cindyboy,

    No, not chemo, fox mentioned two drugs, sutent and votrient, there are others. It would be a question for your doctors as to what might work best in your situation with a minimum of side effects.
  • icemantoo
    icemantoo Member Posts: 3,361 Member
    garym said:

    What kind of treatments
    cindyboy,

    No, not chemo, fox mentioned two drugs, sutent and votrient, there are others. It would be a question for your doctors as to what might work best in your situation with a minimum of side effects.

    Second Opinon
    Cindiboy,

    Your doctor should not feel offended that you are seeking a second opinion with your unusual diagnosis. Have your current results forwarded rather than new tests. Additionally maintain your own file with all of your records so you do not have to ask the first doctor to forward everything.


    Icemantoo
  • livealive
    livealive Member Posts: 127
    cindiboy said:

    What kind of treatments are
    What kind of treatments are y'all talking about? Chemotherapy? If I get a 2nd opinion should I get new tests or ask them to be forwarded to new doctor?

    Thank you so much for responses. My husband won't really talk about it too much so I don't really have anyone to talk to about this

    Treatment Alternatives
    (1) - Interlukin - depending on whether it's a fit - your pathology report, your age, performance level etc. will have to be considered. This will have to be in the ICU, preferably at a cancer center - say Sloan, Fox Chase, Johns Hopkins
    (2) Surgery
    (3) There are several approved drugs, Sutent, Votrient, Everolimus, Axitinib, I forget the rest
    (4) Clinical Trials - drugs like MDX, Fox can write more on these.

    I am deeply sorry to hear of your recurrence - and hope the alternatives are presented to you and you make a reasonably appropriate decision. Please let me know if I can be help.

    Raj.
  • Fishknees
    Fishknees Member Posts: 73
    So sorry!
    Cindiboy, I am so sorry about your finding another tumor.

    I am very new to this so I really no nothing. Would this be why many surgeons want to remove the whole kidney rather than do partial? I am just wondering.

    I have a very hard time waiting so I would like to have it done ASAP. But, with your history it may be nothing. I think a second opinion is a great idea. I do know if your doctor gets angry because you asked for a second opinion, he is not the doctor for you.

    Best wishes with what you decide.
    Fishie
  • Beingbless
    Beingbless Member Posts: 46
    Fishknees said:

    So sorry!
    Cindiboy, I am so sorry about your finding another tumor.

    I am very new to this so I really no nothing. Would this be why many surgeons want to remove the whole kidney rather than do partial? I am just wondering.

    I have a very hard time waiting so I would like to have it done ASAP. But, with your history it may be nothing. I think a second opinion is a great idea. I do know if your doctor gets angry because you asked for a second opinion, he is not the doctor for you.

    Best wishes with what you decide.
    Fishie

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