Does a post like this "there is healing in the name of Jesus" posted in the Cancer Forums hurt or he

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  • sea60
    sea60 Member Posts: 2,613
    PhillieG said:

    Maybe it's Because...
    those who want to spread the word or make Christian posts don't want to preach to the choir, they want to post in specific cancer forums where people are asking questions about treatment options and not praying hard enough. They also seemed to resent being asked not to proselytize. The creation of this forum was an attempt to get the requests for "weekly prayer threads" and the posts telling people with cancer that if we didn't accept Jesus as our savior we deserve to be in Hell, off the colon cancer forum. Since I joined this site in May 2005, I HAVE NEVER ONCE saw any other religious group make a religious post in the colon cancer forum. Could it be that other faiths don't get sick? Or could it be that many people know that discussing religion is a hot topic (like politics) so when dealing with many people from various backgrounds and faiths that it's often better to keep posts to cancer questions and not make the site feel like it is a White-Christian-only site which alienates people and keeps many from joining and/or posting?

    The people who this forum was supposed to benefit decided they'd rather keep violating the TOC of the site and were banned and are now on the other sites where Christians with Cancer is the main theme. That's great, they are with others who believe what they believe so they can exchange verses and complain about their perceived persecution of Christians.

    This forum was a good place to ask questions about what people may believe happens to them after they die, if cancer has been all bad for them, and other topics that affect us all but there really wasn't a specific place for them. It's also become a great place for people to argue about who is right about the existence of "God" and who is wrong.

    Of course I may be totally wrong with what I've seen in the 6+ years I've been on the forum.

    Marcia is right though, some people DO discuss their beliefs on here but it's not that frequent.

    Hi Phil!
    Hope you're having a wonderful Holiday.

    Don't you think Mary has a point regarding how one can be thrown off by the topic name? It is confusing. There are some folks from different religions (not just Christian)that are radical and totally misrepresent themselves just as there are politicians who do the same. So, knowing that there are a few out there like the person you mentioned on the colon cancer board, does that mean ALL Christians are these pulpit thumping, hell threatening maniacs? Of course not. As long as there are people, there will be those who take things to the extreme. Getting back to Mary's comment, if the majority who are drawn here because it's labeled with the words "Prayer, Spirituality and Meditation" believe in God and ask for prayer or would like to share scripture that perhaps has given them strength through their ordeal, make them fanatical Christians trying to take over the forum?

    I get the intent you want it to be and agree with the questions and topics you'd like to discuss, however, I do think they should consider somehow re-naming this forum.

    Thoughts? Possibilities?

    P.S. I like the play of colors on your pic! :)
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    kokomc said:

    Spirituality, Prayer, and Meditation

    Not just Christians pray and meditate; there are a lot of people of all Faiths, Religions, and Creeds that do the same and I am sure they come to this site seeking just that. I have friends who are of totally different faiths and beliefs and the common denominator between all of us is that we pray and meditate. I think that Muslims and Buddhist pray more than any faith or religion in the world; I see a few here posting now and then but none asking or requesting pray. I did see a few Christians asking for pray but again not many and I don't think they are here anymore. So back to my original question why is this forum called Spirituality, Prayer, and Meditation if that is not what it is used for.

    There are always people of all faiths and religions Atheist included who will try and force their way of believing on everyone else. I can understand if these are the people you are talking about getting band from this site. My personal belief is that people should be free to believe or not to believe what they want. I don’t argue about my belief because I don’t try to force my way on anyone else. But when I see something that is saying Spirituality, Prayer, and Meditation that is what I am expecting to find. I guess this site is like religion everyone sees it in their own way.

    Don’t get me wrong I am just trying to understand that if I want to ask for prayer or ask someone to meditate with me about something this is not the place to do it.

    Mary

    I agree
    It is misnamed. Few, if any, of those it was created for came here so this is what it became.
    I do get it (now) that it would be nice if this forum kept to the title.
    Let me meditate on it for a while
    ;-)
    I hope you had a wonderful holiday and have a healthy new year
    -phil
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member
    sea60 said:

    Hi Phil!
    Hope you're having a wonderful Holiday.

    Don't you think Mary has a point regarding how one can be thrown off by the topic name? It is confusing. There are some folks from different religions (not just Christian)that are radical and totally misrepresent themselves just as there are politicians who do the same. So, knowing that there are a few out there like the person you mentioned on the colon cancer board, does that mean ALL Christians are these pulpit thumping, hell threatening maniacs? Of course not. As long as there are people, there will be those who take things to the extreme. Getting back to Mary's comment, if the majority who are drawn here because it's labeled with the words "Prayer, Spirituality and Meditation" believe in God and ask for prayer or would like to share scripture that perhaps has given them strength through their ordeal, make them fanatical Christians trying to take over the forum?

    I get the intent you want it to be and agree with the questions and topics you'd like to discuss, however, I do think they should consider somehow re-naming this forum.

    Thoughts? Possibilities?

    P.S. I like the play of colors on your pic! :)

    Hi Sea
    I see Mary's (and your) point. It is misleading. The attempt was made to create the space but few went here. I tried to ask some questions that would cover many faiths or beliefs like what happens when we die, etc. so people could share and learn about other faiths. The fanatics of any faith will keep doing what they do and certainly won't be corralled with like minded people. What's the fun of that?!

    I have little if any influence with what goes on here but I will mention it to "the powers that be"
    -phil
    Thanks for the pic comment. Just playing around with photo apps ;-)
  • soccerfreaks
    soccerfreaks Member Posts: 2,788 Member
    kokomc said:

    Healing in the Name of Jesus

    To a person who is a true Christian it should not hurt at all, but to someone who is not a Christian I might see where they would get offended. I would think that if someone posted about their healing they would want stay to share the rest of the story and help give faith to others who may be having the same problems. Maybe they are just afraid if they stayed they would be bullied about their faith, I really don’t know but everyone is different in how they share their faith.

    This is my first time on this forum; and I find it is kind of a paradox to me. Being it says Spirituality, Prayer, and Meditation, I see no one praying or asking for prayer, and I see no Meditation of any kind or any belief. Maybe this forum it is just named wrong and gives the wrong impression to people when they come here.

    Mary

    "Jesus was a Capricorn, he ate organic food"
    (Kris Kristofferson reference)

    I've always considered this forum an area for discussion and exploration and perhaps that is an error in judgement on my part. In any event, I do not recall ever reading a post where someone was simply seeking prayers or joint mediation and then receiving comeuppance from some atheist or agnostic. If that can be pointed out to me, I will gladly accept it as a problem with the person responding rather than the original poster.

    On the other hand, there have been some rather zesty debates about beliefs and non-beliefs, many of them quite thought-provoking, although I will agree that they can get out of hand, as any topic related to religion or politics, for whatever reason, seems bound to do given enough time.

    In my recollection, these debates occur because of a statement of fact on the part of the poster, whether believer or non-, then questioned by others, supported by still others. These are not prayers or supplications or requests but purported statements of fact and therefore open to inquiry and alternate viewpoints.

    I am an agnostic but have many theistic friends who somehow put up with me (heck, I'm married to one!). I hope that people do not feel alienated against seeking prayers or meditation on this forum. I concur that this is the place for such. But would you agree at least that there is no proper forum for preaching to people to give up their treatment and allow god to heal them?

    Thank you for bringing up an important point.

    Take care,

    Joe
  • kokomc
    kokomc Member Posts: 22

    "Jesus was a Capricorn, he ate organic food"
    (Kris Kristofferson reference)

    I've always considered this forum an area for discussion and exploration and perhaps that is an error in judgement on my part. In any event, I do not recall ever reading a post where someone was simply seeking prayers or joint mediation and then receiving comeuppance from some atheist or agnostic. If that can be pointed out to me, I will gladly accept it as a problem with the person responding rather than the original poster.

    On the other hand, there have been some rather zesty debates about beliefs and non-beliefs, many of them quite thought-provoking, although I will agree that they can get out of hand, as any topic related to religion or politics, for whatever reason, seems bound to do given enough time.

    In my recollection, these debates occur because of a statement of fact on the part of the poster, whether believer or non-, then questioned by others, supported by still others. These are not prayers or supplications or requests but purported statements of fact and therefore open to inquiry and alternate viewpoints.

    I am an agnostic but have many theistic friends who somehow put up with me (heck, I'm married to one!). I hope that people do not feel alienated against seeking prayers or meditation on this forum. I concur that this is the place for such. But would you agree at least that there is no proper forum for preaching to people to give up their treatment and allow god to heal them?

    Thank you for bringing up an important point.

    Take care,

    Joe

    Preaching to people
    I would say that everything has its proper place and debating ones believe or faith on a public forum like CSN is not the way to help people who are going through trials in their life like Cancer. But praying for someone is a totally different thing. If pray can help someone and lift up their spirits keeping them motivated or focus with positive thoughts, why not pray for them.

    Being you are agnostic I would not expect for you to understand much about having pure Faith in God. When my husband was going through treatment we listen to what the doctors told us as they treated him. But we put our faith in God that he would lead the doctors to know exactly what to do to treat him. I also know of people who had tumors in their bodies, and were anointed by men of faith never receiving any treatment. When they went back to their doctors there tumor was gone, I know two these people so I know there testimony was true.

    There are things in life that no one understands and having faith in God is one of them. Don’t underestimate the power of prayer because you don’t agree with it. Just be open minded enough to know there are many mysteries that we have no idea of how or why they are, believing and having faith is just one of them.

    Mary
  • Guardianone 2000
    Guardianone 2000 Member Posts: 30
    Opinions
    Does a post like this "there is healing in the name of Jesus" posted in the Cancer Forums hurt or help Religion?

    Who cares, religion is man-made. I am a walking miracle because of Jesus, God and Holy Spirit. Jesus is just another name for God since they are One. During the crisis cancer creates in the lives of people it affects, what difference does it make? The truth is, without the Holy Trinity, you don't have a chance. You'll think someone who believes is trying to sell something.

    I've lived with stage 4 melanoma and was sent home from Duke to die. I made a covenant with God and I am still here because of it. Quite frankly those who don't want to believe in Jesus don't have to read the post. They need to get off their high horses and remember that we all are different and if you don't like something then don't get involved in it. I do believe and I don't care what you think.

    This is personal and as human beings we should try and understand what they are going through while trying to cling to life. I am going to share my story and you can make your own determination on whether you believe I believe what Iam saying.

    Imagine traveling to Duke Medical Center for what is called a Hail Mary chance for life. A team of physicians, the top oncologist in the world are reviewing your case file and assessing your condition to determine what course of treatment is left or available. When they have completed their evaluation, the decision is made, there is nothing can be done to save or prolong your life.

    In 2004, I was sent home with less than 2 months to live (stage 4). The melanoma tumor which started in my left eye had metastasis throughout my lymph system, liver, lungs and brain.

    I couldn’t even be given experimental chemotherapy, because it would have no affect crossing the blood barrier in the brain. When the Dr. told me this, I looked up and said, “Thank You Lord, now You and I can work this out together.” My Dr. looked at me like I was crazy and then he told me, “They would keep me comfortable until I was gone.”

    As we left the hospital, I was in shock. I had to try and comfort my sister who had driven me that day. I was on large doses of morphine for the pain and was unable to drive myself. She was really upset about what the Dr’s. had said. I told her everything was going to be alright. Everything was in God’s hands, not mine nor the Doctor’s.

    On the way home I shut my eyes and started thinking about the things I was going to miss. I wasn’t even going to see my daughter graduate High School later that year.
    I thanked God for all the blessing’s I had had in my life. I never asked God to save my life. I did say “Lord, You know I have been all over the world helping people and if it is Your Will for me to come home, then I am ready; however if You give me the opportunity, I will write three books in Your Honor.”

    In 2005, I fulfilled my covenant with God and I am here today. I still have seven nods in my lungs. After the second book was written, my doctor’s and I realized I had had a miracle occur. All the cancer was out of my body. I was immediately tested again with cats, pets, bone scans, x-rays and labs.

    In May 2010, I had stereotactic radiation to stop the bleeding and kill the nod that grew into a tumor. I’ve had surgery, radiation, pain medicines and thank God for Dr.’s and scientist.
    The rest of this story can be found on my website: bradleydallasnorth.net
  • soccerfreaks
    soccerfreaks Member Posts: 2,788 Member

    Opinions
    Does a post like this "there is healing in the name of Jesus" posted in the Cancer Forums hurt or help Religion?

    Who cares, religion is man-made. I am a walking miracle because of Jesus, God and Holy Spirit. Jesus is just another name for God since they are One. During the crisis cancer creates in the lives of people it affects, what difference does it make? The truth is, without the Holy Trinity, you don't have a chance. You'll think someone who believes is trying to sell something.

    I've lived with stage 4 melanoma and was sent home from Duke to die. I made a covenant with God and I am still here because of it. Quite frankly those who don't want to believe in Jesus don't have to read the post. They need to get off their high horses and remember that we all are different and if you don't like something then don't get involved in it. I do believe and I don't care what you think.

    This is personal and as human beings we should try and understand what they are going through while trying to cling to life. I am going to share my story and you can make your own determination on whether you believe I believe what Iam saying.

    Imagine traveling to Duke Medical Center for what is called a Hail Mary chance for life. A team of physicians, the top oncologist in the world are reviewing your case file and assessing your condition to determine what course of treatment is left or available. When they have completed their evaluation, the decision is made, there is nothing can be done to save or prolong your life.

    In 2004, I was sent home with less than 2 months to live (stage 4). The melanoma tumor which started in my left eye had metastasis throughout my lymph system, liver, lungs and brain.

    I couldn’t even be given experimental chemotherapy, because it would have no affect crossing the blood barrier in the brain. When the Dr. told me this, I looked up and said, “Thank You Lord, now You and I can work this out together.” My Dr. looked at me like I was crazy and then he told me, “They would keep me comfortable until I was gone.”

    As we left the hospital, I was in shock. I had to try and comfort my sister who had driven me that day. I was on large doses of morphine for the pain and was unable to drive myself. She was really upset about what the Dr’s. had said. I told her everything was going to be alright. Everything was in God’s hands, not mine nor the Doctor’s.

    On the way home I shut my eyes and started thinking about the things I was going to miss. I wasn’t even going to see my daughter graduate High School later that year.
    I thanked God for all the blessing’s I had had in my life. I never asked God to save my life. I did say “Lord, You know I have been all over the world helping people and if it is Your Will for me to come home, then I am ready; however if You give me the opportunity, I will write three books in Your Honor.”

    In 2005, I fulfilled my covenant with God and I am here today. I still have seven nods in my lungs. After the second book was written, my doctor’s and I realized I had had a miracle occur. All the cancer was out of my body. I was immediately tested again with cats, pets, bone scans, x-rays and labs.

    In May 2010, I had stereotactic radiation to stop the bleeding and kill the nod that grew into a tumor. I’ve had surgery, radiation, pain medicines and thank God for Dr.’s and scientist.
    The rest of this story can be found on my website: bradleydallasnorth.net

    hmm
    Due to your inflammatory introduction, I took your advice and decided not to read the rest of what you had to say.

    Take care,

    Joe
  • Guardianone 2000
    Guardianone 2000 Member Posts: 30

    hmm
    Due to your inflammatory introduction, I took your advice and decided not to read the rest of what you had to say.

    Take care,

    Joe

    Awwwwwww
    Just because you believe in yourself and all knowing. Have a great life!
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member

    Opinions
    Does a post like this "there is healing in the name of Jesus" posted in the Cancer Forums hurt or help Religion?

    Who cares, religion is man-made. I am a walking miracle because of Jesus, God and Holy Spirit. Jesus is just another name for God since they are One. During the crisis cancer creates in the lives of people it affects, what difference does it make? The truth is, without the Holy Trinity, you don't have a chance. You'll think someone who believes is trying to sell something.

    I've lived with stage 4 melanoma and was sent home from Duke to die. I made a covenant with God and I am still here because of it. Quite frankly those who don't want to believe in Jesus don't have to read the post. They need to get off their high horses and remember that we all are different and if you don't like something then don't get involved in it. I do believe and I don't care what you think.

    This is personal and as human beings we should try and understand what they are going through while trying to cling to life. I am going to share my story and you can make your own determination on whether you believe I believe what Iam saying.

    Imagine traveling to Duke Medical Center for what is called a Hail Mary chance for life. A team of physicians, the top oncologist in the world are reviewing your case file and assessing your condition to determine what course of treatment is left or available. When they have completed their evaluation, the decision is made, there is nothing can be done to save or prolong your life.

    In 2004, I was sent home with less than 2 months to live (stage 4). The melanoma tumor which started in my left eye had metastasis throughout my lymph system, liver, lungs and brain.

    I couldn’t even be given experimental chemotherapy, because it would have no affect crossing the blood barrier in the brain. When the Dr. told me this, I looked up and said, “Thank You Lord, now You and I can work this out together.” My Dr. looked at me like I was crazy and then he told me, “They would keep me comfortable until I was gone.”

    As we left the hospital, I was in shock. I had to try and comfort my sister who had driven me that day. I was on large doses of morphine for the pain and was unable to drive myself. She was really upset about what the Dr’s. had said. I told her everything was going to be alright. Everything was in God’s hands, not mine nor the Doctor’s.

    On the way home I shut my eyes and started thinking about the things I was going to miss. I wasn’t even going to see my daughter graduate High School later that year.
    I thanked God for all the blessing’s I had had in my life. I never asked God to save my life. I did say “Lord, You know I have been all over the world helping people and if it is Your Will for me to come home, then I am ready; however if You give me the opportunity, I will write three books in Your Honor.”

    In 2005, I fulfilled my covenant with God and I am here today. I still have seven nods in my lungs. After the second book was written, my doctor’s and I realized I had had a miracle occur. All the cancer was out of my body. I was immediately tested again with cats, pets, bone scans, x-rays and labs.

    In May 2010, I had stereotactic radiation to stop the bleeding and kill the nod that grew into a tumor. I’ve had surgery, radiation, pain medicines and thank God for Dr.’s and scientist.
    The rest of this story can be found on my website: bradleydallasnorth.net

    Opinions and Beliefs
    Are unique to each of us. We take what we need from them. Whats works or what I believe in, may not (or may) work for you.
    Glad you found something that worked for you.
    Question for you, you posted no profile info at all just your story in your post.
    Are you here just to share your story?
    -phil
  • Guardianone 2000
    Guardianone 2000 Member Posts: 30
    PhillieG said:

    Opinions and Beliefs
    Are unique to each of us. We take what we need from them. Whats works or what I believe in, may not (or may) work for you.
    Glad you found something that worked for you.
    Question for you, you posted no profile info at all just your story in your post.
    Are you here just to share your story?
    -phil

    Website and google
    Phill,

    I had Faith way before I ever had cancer. My name is David K. Sumrell and my story is already being shared. I just couldn't believe the post. Have any of these readers ever faced death, not only cancer. Why are you on here?
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member

    Website and google
    Phill,

    I had Faith way before I ever had cancer. My name is David K. Sumrell and my story is already being shared. I just couldn't believe the post. Have any of these readers ever faced death, not only cancer. Why are you on here?

    DKS
    I too couldn't believe the post that I read initially. Glad we agree ;-)
    I'm here because I enjoy hearing stories and I enjoy comparative theology.
    Why are you here? Are you somehow more "important" than the rest of us with cancer?
    Everyone faces death all the time whether we realize it or not...
    -p
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member

    Awwwwwww
    Just because you believe in yourself and all knowing. Have a great life!

    Let's try to keep Christ in being Christian...
    Quite an attack for someone "new" to the forum.
    I think you answered my question in your response to Joe...
  • Guardianone 2000
    Guardianone 2000 Member Posts: 30

    hmm
    Due to your inflammatory introduction, I took your advice and decided not to read the rest of what you had to say.

    Take care,

    Joe

    Awwwwwww
    Just because you believe in yourself and all knowing. Have a great life! Oh, don't forget your meds, you need them...
  • Guardianone 2000
    Guardianone 2000 Member Posts: 30
    PhillieG said:

    DKS
    I too couldn't believe the post that I read initially. Glad we agree ;-)
    I'm here because I enjoy hearing stories and I enjoy comparative theology.
    Why are you here? Are you somehow more "important" than the rest of us with cancer?
    Everyone faces death all the time whether we realize it or not...
    -p

    Phil
    Do you look for arguments or to challenge others to think? "New" to a forum. Because you joined in 2005, does that make you more important than the rest of us or your opinion any more valid.

    I personally don't care what other people want to believe, the question was wether or not using Jesus's name in a cancer forums help or hurt religion? Just because a person is religous doesn't make the a Christian,,, nor does it make them good or bad. It is their own personal choice, we don't have to debate the obvious about man made religions.

    Did I come across as believiving I am more 'important' than the rest of you'll? If so I am sorry, but I do take it personal when someone hides behind a computer screen and wants to belittle my belief's. I read what you'll had to say, without condemnation. I am here for HOPE and as cancer patients, there are a lot of people searching for what they may never have experienced.

    To me this is a battle ground for the ones like Joe. I am a warrior for the Lord and I will not back down from my belief's and I hope you can atleast understand my conviction in my own belief's.

    I don't know how to post a profile...
  • soccerfreaks
    soccerfreaks Member Posts: 2,788 Member

    Phil
    Do you look for arguments or to challenge others to think? "New" to a forum. Because you joined in 2005, does that make you more important than the rest of us or your opinion any more valid.

    I personally don't care what other people want to believe, the question was wether or not using Jesus's name in a cancer forums help or hurt religion? Just because a person is religous doesn't make the a Christian,,, nor does it make them good or bad. It is their own personal choice, we don't have to debate the obvious about man made religions.

    Did I come across as believiving I am more 'important' than the rest of you'll? If so I am sorry, but I do take it personal when someone hides behind a computer screen and wants to belittle my belief's. I read what you'll had to say, without condemnation. I am here for HOPE and as cancer patients, there are a lot of people searching for what they may never have experienced.

    To me this is a battle ground for the ones like Joe. I am a warrior for the Lord and I will not back down from my belief's and I hope you can atleast understand my conviction in my own belief's.

    I don't know how to post a profile...

    ?
    A battleground for me? You, yourself, insisted that if folks didn't want to read your screed we should ignore it, and I simply pointed out that your introduction was enough to send me away.

    Read what you say and heed it, or don't write it.

    Take care,

    Joe
  • Guardianone 2000
    Guardianone 2000 Member Posts: 30

    ?
    A battleground for me? You, yourself, insisted that if folks didn't want to read your screed we should ignore it, and I simply pointed out that your introduction was enough to send me away.

    Read what you say and heed it, or don't write it.

    Take care,

    Joe

    Joe "screed"
    Go back to the mirror and keep worshipping yourself. Don't care if you read it or not, it was put there for an answer to a question. Your opinion, although I don't agree with your point of view, is yours. I hope you have a great day and keep attacking people you don't agree with...it makes you a real man!!!
  • Marcia527
    Marcia527 Member Posts: 2,729

    Joe "screed"
    Go back to the mirror and keep worshipping yourself. Don't care if you read it or not, it was put there for an answer to a question. Your opinion, although I don't agree with your point of view, is yours. I hope you have a great day and keep attacking people you don't agree with...it makes you a real man!!!

    David, about creating profile page
    Up at the top next to members online is "Create or update About Me' page. Click where it says 'click here'.

    Everyone here has had a hard load to bear. I take into consideration each members background when replying. So some of us read the profile page or About Me page.

    We had a member who also had a healing but she was shy to talk about it. Not everyone receives what they ask for. And sometimes even when we do receive it, it's hard to talk about.

    This ended up in wrong spot...meant to be at the bottom.
  • Guardianone 2000
    Guardianone 2000 Member Posts: 30

    ?
    A battleground for me? You, yourself, insisted that if folks didn't want to read your screed we should ignore it, and I simply pointed out that your introduction was enough to send me away.

    Read what you say and heed it, or don't write it.

    Take care,

    Joe

    Joe "Sorry"
    I just read your profile and I want to say i am sorry for the remarks I made. You have been through hell and I am sorry for your situation. You are a Real man and I believe you hold alot of anger as to why? Just an (assumption) on my part and I know I've left myself open. We had a Bayside Hospital in Virginia Beach, I believe it has changed to Sentara Bayside now. Were you in this area when diagnosed?

    Everyone involved in a cancer patients life is tested, and the trials are sometimes severe.
  • PhillieG
    PhillieG Member Posts: 4,866 Member

    Phil
    Do you look for arguments or to challenge others to think? "New" to a forum. Because you joined in 2005, does that make you more important than the rest of us or your opinion any more valid.

    I personally don't care what other people want to believe, the question was wether or not using Jesus's name in a cancer forums help or hurt religion? Just because a person is religous doesn't make the a Christian,,, nor does it make them good or bad. It is their own personal choice, we don't have to debate the obvious about man made religions.

    Did I come across as believiving I am more 'important' than the rest of you'll? If so I am sorry, but I do take it personal when someone hides behind a computer screen and wants to belittle my belief's. I read what you'll had to say, without condemnation. I am here for HOPE and as cancer patients, there are a lot of people searching for what they may never have experienced.

    To me this is a battle ground for the ones like Joe. I am a warrior for the Lord and I will not back down from my belief's and I hope you can atleast understand my conviction in my own belief's.

    I don't know how to post a profile...

    DKS
    Sometimes I'll challenge people to think. I don't believe anyone's died from thinking (only from saying what they thought). I don't go looking for arguments either nor do I think I'm special because I've been on the site since 2005. I'm thankful I have good Doctors though. The only reason I was wondering about being new was that usually people edit their profiles to include their type of cancer, what treatments (if any) they've taken, or other words of wisdom. At the top of all pages in the light yellow area it says "Click here to create or update your member "About Me" page". Look for the "Edit" tab, it's next to the "My CSN Space".

    You do come across as being very arrogant and combative.
    I am not here looking for hope as much as I'm here to offer hope for others. Being someone who has Lived With Cancer for close to 8 years, I feel I'm in a position to share with others that cancer does not have to be a death sentence. It's very important to have a good medical team behind you, and if you happen to have faith in a higher power that certainly can have a positive effect on your outcome. Being one who was raised Catholic and went through 8 years of Catholic school, I've been an agnostic since my teens and I realized that every faith can't be right. I DO care about what others believe, mainly because the more you know about something the more you can find the common beliefs and common ground of which there are many.

    Joe did nothing more than follow your advice about reading your post, I really don't understand your attack. Calling this (forum) a battleground for "ones like Joe" and being a "warrior for the Lord" certainly does not make you come across as someone who would welcome or acknowledge the opinions of a Muslim, Jew, Agnostic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc with cancer. While you're free to believe what you wish (as are all people) and I see your conviction, I don't understand how people can think they know what the "TRUTH" is to a question that has no answer. And so the wars will continue until the Best God wins I suppose.

    Thanks for posting, the site's been dull lately.
    Good luck with your doctor visits.
    -phil
  • Guardianone 2000
    Guardianone 2000 Member Posts: 30
    Marcia527 said:

    David, about creating profile page
    Up at the top next to members online is "Create or update About Me' page. Click where it says 'click here'.

    Everyone here has had a hard load to bear. I take into consideration each members background when replying. So some of us read the profile page or About Me page.

    We had a member who also had a healing but she was shy to talk about it. Not everyone receives what they ask for. And sometimes even when we do receive it, it's hard to talk about.

    This ended up in wrong spot...meant to be at the bottom.

    Thank you
    I just got my first lesson on CSN humility. You are absolutely right. I just got finished reading Joe's bio. I will try and be more humble in the future, I wasn't sure if this was an ambush page and I will fight for what I believe. I think I have realized for the first time ( I am not alone ) in this fight, there are so many of us fighting and struggling to understand and survive, while trying to make other's believe everything is ok.

    Again Marcia,

    Thank you!!!