Good news....I think. At least it's not bad news.

Hissy_Fitz
Hissy_Fitz Member Posts: 1,834
Just got home from my appointment with my friendly, local gyn/onc. We can't tap the fluid and test it because it's trapped in the hernia sac and they can't go thru the mesh with the needle they use for paracentesis.

On the other hand, because it IS inthe hernai sac, and nowhere else, it might be totally unrelated to Cancer - just fluid trapped in there during my hernia repair surgery. If that's the case, it will have disappeared by my next CT scan in Jan.

But he did agree to retest my CA125 in a month, just to keep me from having an ongoing anxiety attack, and because Dr S thought it would be a good idea. He (local guy) is totally unconcerned about it.

Pelvic exam was totally negative for any evidence of disease. All my girlie parts look and feel normal.

I have a hard knot under the skin of my belly, right where one of the lap instruments was inserted to repair the hernia. He said we need to "watch" it. I told him the surgeon who did the repair was aware of it (I pointed it out at my post-surgery check up). Naturally, I asked him what he thought it might be, all the while hearing my brain silently screaming "TUMOR." He said it could be a piece of the mesh that got rolled up, or one of the "screw" the surgeon used to anchor the mesh. Screws? No one mentioned hardware. Guess I will wait and ask the surgeon when I see him.

Carlene
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  • Hissy_Fitz
    Hissy_Fitz Member Posts: 1,834
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    Nancy...
    I had a bowel

    Nancy...

    I had a bowel re-section and he is cautious about doing IP surgery right after a bowel re-section. Also, I had a very high pre-surgery CA125 (4000) and since his personal experience is that only about 40% are able to complete the whole IP protocol, he does not like to risk putting off IV chemo, which he claims would be necessary if we started IP therapy and I could not tolerate it. He says you lose time, getting the patient back up to a point where they can start IV chemo.

    Carlene
  • Hissy_Fitz
    Hissy_Fitz Member Posts: 1,834
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    Double Post....
    Hiccup!
  • srwruns
    srwruns Member Posts: 343
    Great news! Keep the good
    Great news! Keep the good news coming.
  • Cindy Bear
    Cindy Bear Member Posts: 569
    Sounds good
    Good news. I am so glad... sounds like you might have a lose screw!! Hee Hee Hee...
  • Nancy...
    I had a bowel

    Nancy...

    I had a bowel re-section and he is cautious about doing IP surgery right after a bowel re-section. Also, I had a very high pre-surgery CA125 (4000) and since his personal experience is that only about 40% are able to complete the whole IP protocol, he does not like to risk putting off IV chemo, which he claims would be necessary if we started IP therapy and I could not tolerate it. He says you lose time, getting the patient back up to a point where they can start IV chemo.

    Carlene

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  • carolenk
    carolenk Member Posts: 907 Member

    Sounds good
    Good news. I am so glad... sounds like you might have a lose screw!! Hee Hee Hee...

    Glad to hear you got your
    Glad to hear you got your local gyn/onc to work with you. Since you have the "ascites," the doc can justify testing your CA-125 sooner now.

    This reminds me of that song where the guy tells a story about something that happened to him & the chorus says "Awww, that's bad!" then the guy says "No, that's GOOD!" and it goes on & on like that.

    Life is strange...
  • lindaprocopio
    lindaprocopio Member Posts: 1,980
    carolenk said:

    Glad to hear you got your
    Glad to hear you got your local gyn/onc to work with you. Since you have the "ascites," the doc can justify testing your CA-125 sooner now.

    This reminds me of that song where the guy tells a story about something that happened to him & the chorus says "Awww, that's bad!" then the guy says "No, that's GOOD!" and it goes on & on like that.

    Life is strange...

    I have a hard knot where they 'punched in' to start my hysterect
    I have a similar hard knot right next to where my hysterectomy surgery (2008) must have started, where they first stuck the scaple in or where they cut in particularly deeply. There's even an ugly 'dimple' by that spot of my belly scar. I don't know if my experience relates at all to the hard knot you have from the hernia surgery, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway. I'm thinking scar tissue.

    Sounds like EXCELLENT news from your exam!! Allow yourself to relax and be happy and beleive in your restored health, Carlene. You're doing so great!
  • cfont11
    cfont11 Member Posts: 115
    great news
    This is great news! I am so glad to hear that it may be unrelated to the cancer. We all know how stressful it can be waiting for CA125 tests but it is good that you are getting tested soon. You are so strong and such an inspiration to all of us, keep up you good attitude. I will pray for your good health.

    Chris
  • jbeans888
    jbeans888 Member Posts: 313
    This is good, definitely not
    This is good, definitely not bad. Is the knot like the same thing as an adhesion?
  • Hissy_Fitz
    Hissy_Fitz Member Posts: 1,834
    jbeans888 said:

    This is good, definitely not
    This is good, definitely not bad. Is the knot like the same thing as an adhesion?

    Probably not, since I just
    Probably not, since I just had the surgery in Aug and I noticed this immediately afterward. Adhesions take a while to form.

    Carlene
  • kayandok
    kayandok Member Posts: 1,202 Member

    Probably not, since I just
    Probably not, since I just had the surgery in Aug and I noticed this immediately afterward. Adhesions take a while to form.

    Carlene

    Carlene,
    the explanation of the fluid sounds reasonable.

    I have had 6 abdominal surgeries (5 for OvCa) and for me, the scar tissue forms within the first month. It is like a hard knot under the skin. I always have then where they punch a hole in for the JP drains and on some parts of the incision, if not all of it. Sometimes it softens up and sometimes just remains hard. I think the scar tissue is what eventually does form the adhesions.

    I'm thinking you have scar tissue, but if it is a tumor, wouldn't your CA125 reflect that?

    In any case, it is good that your onc is going to do a CA125 again in a month.

    Keep us posted,
    kathleen
  • clamryn
    clamryn Member Posts: 508
    Good News
    Carlene, enjoy the good news. That CA125 is going to be good also. I know it is hard to keep it out of your mind but I know that you will get a good report on your CA125 and the CT Scan that is scheduled for January will be a good report too.

    I love your proactive approach to all of this and I also love the fact that you challenge the doctor. Keep it up Carlene.

    Linda
  • dreamer007
    dreamer007 Member Posts: 61
    clamryn said:

    Good News
    Carlene, enjoy the good news. That CA125 is going to be good also. I know it is hard to keep it out of your mind but I know that you will get a good report on your CA125 and the CT Scan that is scheduled for January will be a good report too.

    I love your proactive approach to all of this and I also love the fact that you challenge the doctor. Keep it up Carlene.

    Linda

    good news
    my onc doc wanted to do IP chemo, but decided that was not going to work
    with my funky intestinal fortitude...i have diverticulosis and ibs
    i have been taking care of the intestinal problems without any surgery, and
    do not want to go in for any more surgery, unless its unbearable pain, and
    a significant improvement in what i can eat...plus, i do not want to **** into
    a bag (pardon my french)
    diet, supplements, meds for the gastro "issues"
  • Hissy_Fitz
    Hissy_Fitz Member Posts: 1,834
    kayandok said:

    Carlene,
    the explanation of the fluid sounds reasonable.

    I have had 6 abdominal surgeries (5 for OvCa) and for me, the scar tissue forms within the first month. It is like a hard knot under the skin. I always have then where they punch a hole in for the JP drains and on some parts of the incision, if not all of it. Sometimes it softens up and sometimes just remains hard. I think the scar tissue is what eventually does form the adhesions.

    I'm thinking you have scar tissue, but if it is a tumor, wouldn't your CA125 reflect that?

    In any case, it is good that your onc is going to do a CA125 again in a month.

    Keep us posted,
    kathleen

    Kathleen....
    I don't think

    Kathleen....

    I don't think there is any suspicion that it's a tumor. I just had a CT scan and it would have shown up. The little guy is bigger than a marble, but just barely.

    I was really surprised that the path report mentioned that my port had been removed, but did not mention the mesh that had been placed over my debulking incision and the hernia It had to have been a pretty good amount. The incision is about 14 inches and the hernia was the size of a cantalope.

    I'm just going to wait for the next CA125 and see what it says, I guess.

    Carlene
  • AnneBehymer
    AnneBehymer Member Posts: 738 Member

    good news
    my onc doc wanted to do IP chemo, but decided that was not going to work
    with my funky intestinal fortitude...i have diverticulosis and ibs
    i have been taking care of the intestinal problems without any surgery, and
    do not want to go in for any more surgery, unless its unbearable pain, and
    a significant improvement in what i can eat...plus, i do not want to **** into
    a bag (pardon my french)
    diet, supplements, meds for the gastro "issues"

    IP chemo??
    I have heard several of you talk about IP chemo. I am new to this cancer stuff and have been wanting to ask but did not want to sound like I am dumb. I have to know what is IP chemo????

    Anne
  • Hissy_Fitz
    Hissy_Fitz Member Posts: 1,834

    IP chemo??
    I have heard several of you talk about IP chemo. I am new to this cancer stuff and have been wanting to ask but did not want to sound like I am dumb. I have to know what is IP chemo????

    Anne

    It's short for
    It's short for "intraperitonial" chemo. It is delivered via a port that is surgically placed in your abdomen, usually during the debulking surgery.

    It's sometimes called a "belly wash" because the chemo drug(s) are introduced right into the abdomen, on top of the cancer, so to speak. Some chemo centers even "swish it around" by rolling you from side-to-side.

    It has shown good results, as part of first line therapy, but it's toxic as all get out. My doctor says only about 40% of his patients make it thru all 6 ronds of IP chemo.

    Carlene
  • AnneBehymer
    AnneBehymer Member Posts: 738 Member

    It's short for
    It's short for "intraperitonial" chemo. It is delivered via a port that is surgically placed in your abdomen, usually during the debulking surgery.

    It's sometimes called a "belly wash" because the chemo drug(s) are introduced right into the abdomen, on top of the cancer, so to speak. Some chemo centers even "swish it around" by rolling you from side-to-side.

    It has shown good results, as part of first line therapy, but it's toxic as all get out. My doctor says only about 40% of his patients make it thru all 6 ronds of IP chemo.

    Carlene

    Thanks
    Wow I think I am glad I am not having that done lol does not sound like fun. Well like any chemo is but you know what I mean I like just having to sit and do nothing while my chemo is going in I play cards Phase 10 mainly or games on my computer. I would not like having to be tossed around back and forth to mix it up lol. I am a large woman so that would not be fun. Thank you for sharing with me I had seen it talked about several times and asked my mom but she did not know either what it was.

    Anne
  • annecris
    annecris Member Posts: 44
    hey Hon - so glad things are
    hey Hon - so glad things are going OK - I will be seeing Dr. S in NYC tomorrow - had my scan yesterday - I will let you know how things are - been feeling very good but had gone off choelsterol meds two months ago to see if i really needed them(since I had heard bad things about vytorin which i had been taking for a number of years) unfortunately my bad cholesterol jumped up to 278 and I was put on crestor a week ago - now having upset stomach and think it is the result of the new meds - will talk to Dr. S. about it tomorrow- keep the faith my dear Carlene - will keep you posted - Annie
  • Mwee
    Mwee Member Posts: 1,338
    Sounds like VERY good news
    Sorry it's taken so long to respond to this post/ I'm been chemoing... :). My ONC always says that he'll take a good pelvic exam that is negative over a CA-125 result anyday, but that the combo is all the more reassuring. (He probably means to me!)

    I know how tough you are, but you had a huge operation just several weeks ago. I'm amazed at your speedy recovery...... and hardware? and trapped fluid .... no wonder you're feeling lumpy and bumpy. I had my gall bladder removed a year after my intial surgery with LAP instruments and I have those hard knots there. Teal bikinis are NOT in my future.
    (((HUGS))) Maria