concerned about estrogen progesterian blockers

janie560
janie560 Member Posts: 42
edited September 2011 in Breast Cancer #1
Just told i have breast cancer. Lump will be removed in two weeks then radiation and blockers. how bad r the side effects of the drugs. I read about bone loss but does it also make your appearance age faster.

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  • LoveBabyJesus
    LoveBabyJesus Member Posts: 1,679 Member
    Hi Janie - Did they tell you
    Hi Janie - Did they tell you which ones? I am on tamoxifen, and so far just having mild side effects. I started 30 days ago. I will be on it for 5 years. Everyone is different and reacts to medication differently. I am sure you will be fine. How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? I turned 33 this year.

    Other sisters will comment and give you some input based on their experiences.

    Good luck with everything. You will be OK.
  • janie560
    janie560 Member Posts: 42

    Hi Janie - Did they tell you
    Hi Janie - Did they tell you which ones? I am on tamoxifen, and so far just having mild side effects. I started 30 days ago. I will be on it for 5 years. Everyone is different and reacts to medication differently. I am sure you will be fine. How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? I turned 33 this year.

    Other sisters will comment and give you some input based on their experiences.

    Good luck with everything. You will be OK.

    They have told me which drug
    They have not told me which drug yet and i am 64. thank for your response.
  • Rague
    Rague Member Posts: 3,653 Member
    janie560 said:

    They have told me which drug
    They have not told me which drug yet and i am 64. thank for your response.

    I'm 65 and have been on
    I'm 65 and have been on Femara (letrozole) for 1 1/2 yrs and have no SE's from it.

    Susan
  • TraciInLA
    TraciInLA Member Posts: 1,994 Member
    janie560 said:

    They have told me which drug
    They have not told me which drug yet and i am 64. thank for your response.

    Hi, Janie -
    The type of hormone blocker you will take depends first on whether you're pre- or postmenopausal.

    Because you're 64, I'm going to take a wild guess that you're way past menopause :-). So your doctor will likely start you on one of the 3 drugs called "aromatase inhibitors" for postmenopausal breast cancer survivors: Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin.

    I'm premenopausal, so don't have any experience with these drugs to offer you...but, if you're reading others' posts or looking at information elsewhere, focus on those 3 drugs. While some postmenopausal women do end up taking Tamoxifen for various reasons, it's much more common for them to take one of these 3.

    Hope that helps a little?

    Traci
  • roseann4
    roseann4 Member Posts: 992 Member
    TraciInLA said:

    Hi, Janie -
    The type of hormone blocker you will take depends first on whether you're pre- or postmenopausal.

    Because you're 64, I'm going to take a wild guess that you're way past menopause :-). So your doctor will likely start you on one of the 3 drugs called "aromatase inhibitors" for postmenopausal breast cancer survivors: Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin.

    I'm premenopausal, so don't have any experience with these drugs to offer you...but, if you're reading others' posts or looking at information elsewhere, focus on those 3 drugs. While some postmenopausal women do end up taking Tamoxifen for various reasons, it's much more common for them to take one of these 3.

    Hope that helps a little?

    Traci

    I have been on Arimidex for almost 3 years.
    I have some mild stiffness in my hands in the morning but it goes away. No big issues.

    Roseann
  • SIROD
    SIROD Member Posts: 2,194 Member
    For Janie560
    Each woman reacts differently to hormonal therapy. One doesn't know how a drug will be until one gives it a try. One person might have lots of hot flashes another none at all. Some have awful bone and joint pain and other women don't have any.

    I have been on one kind of hormonal therapy for 16 years and I don't believe that anyone would say I look older than my peers who have not had any cancer treatment. In fact, most people say I look darn good.

    Yes, hormonal treatment especially the aromatase inhibitors can be wicked on the bones. Your doctor should prescribe some sort of bisphosphonate treatment such as Fosamax, Boniva and etc. This will prevent fractures. When AI (aromatase inhibitors (arimidex, femara, aromasin) came out, they didn't realize that they would cause bone fractures. A few years after I was on Arimidex, I had a minor fall that cause 3 vertebra fractures. Then I went on a bisphosphonate and my eye specialist made me stop. I developed an eye condition that doesn't allow me to use that sort of drug anymore. I am just very, very careful on not falling.

    You should also have a bone density test before you begin your hormonal therapy. This will give a baseline for you in the years to come.

    Good luck to you.

    Doris
  • Rague
    Rague Member Posts: 3,653 Member
    SIROD said:

    For Janie560
    Each woman reacts differently to hormonal therapy. One doesn't know how a drug will be until one gives it a try. One person might have lots of hot flashes another none at all. Some have awful bone and joint pain and other women don't have any.

    I have been on one kind of hormonal therapy for 16 years and I don't believe that anyone would say I look older than my peers who have not had any cancer treatment. In fact, most people say I look darn good.

    Yes, hormonal treatment especially the aromatase inhibitors can be wicked on the bones. Your doctor should prescribe some sort of bisphosphonate treatment such as Fosamax, Boniva and etc. This will prevent fractures. When AI (aromatase inhibitors (arimidex, femara, aromasin) came out, they didn't realize that they would cause bone fractures. A few years after I was on Arimidex, I had a minor fall that cause 3 vertebra fractures. Then I went on a bisphosphonate and my eye specialist made me stop. I developed an eye condition that doesn't allow me to use that sort of drug anymore. I am just very, very careful on not falling.

    You should also have a bone density test before you begin your hormonal therapy. This will give a baseline for you in the years to come.

    Good luck to you.

    Doris

    SIROD - got a question for you or anyone else
    Perhaps you've seen some info on this 'problem' - I haven't found any.

    As I have said - I've had no SE's on Femara for 1 1/2 yrs. but I'm wondering if I am somewhat having an isolated site SE now or it's just that I'm older now (LOL).

    Wednesday before last I slipped/tripped in a rut and did a "very small fracture" (term used by the UC nurse who called me back after I left there) to a bone in my foot. Being I've always been very active with horses and especially jumping I've had several fractures in the past so I know what it feels like and how long it takes for it to feel beter for me - at least when I was younger and BBC (Before Breast Cancer). The Drs in UC could not see anything on the films (I didn't either) but when the radiologist looked at them later that afternoon he/she did see a "very small fracture". So anywho my question is while the Femara is not 'attacking' my 'healthy' bones/joints while 'attacking' the injured site because there is definately a lot more pain and achiness than should be in the area by now based on past histories?

    ANy thoughts?

    Susan
  • CAchick
    CAchick Member Posts: 277
    femara
    Hi, I am 53. Been on Femara for about a year. When I first started taking it, I had a lot of side effects...bone pain, nausea, and fatigue. Plus, I felt like I "moved older" if that makes any sense. However, I have sort of gotten used to the se's. My Med Onc put me on Cymbalta, and it helps with the pain. I get special bone tx (Zometa) to strengthen my bones (twice a year). And, I take Calcium every day.
    Best wishes to you,
    Sybil
  • missrenee
    missrenee Member Posts: 2,136 Member
    CAchick said:

    femara
    Hi, I am 53. Been on Femara for about a year. When I first started taking it, I had a lot of side effects...bone pain, nausea, and fatigue. Plus, I felt like I "moved older" if that makes any sense. However, I have sort of gotten used to the se's. My Med Onc put me on Cymbalta, and it helps with the pain. I get special bone tx (Zometa) to strengthen my bones (twice a year). And, I take Calcium every day.
    Best wishes to you,
    Sybil

    I can just give you my experience
    I've been on Arimidex for 14 months. The side effects have been very minimal--aches and pains in my ankles and legs--then after I move around they go away, about 10 pounds of weight gain--mostly around my middle and some minor decrease in bone density (but not to the point of osteopenia or osteoporosis yet). I feel this drug is another great weapon in my battle and I intend to stay on it for as long as I can.

    Good luck to you.

    Hugs, Renee
  • SIROD
    SIROD Member Posts: 2,194 Member
    Rague said:

    SIROD - got a question for you or anyone else
    Perhaps you've seen some info on this 'problem' - I haven't found any.

    As I have said - I've had no SE's on Femara for 1 1/2 yrs. but I'm wondering if I am somewhat having an isolated site SE now or it's just that I'm older now (LOL).

    Wednesday before last I slipped/tripped in a rut and did a "very small fracture" (term used by the UC nurse who called me back after I left there) to a bone in my foot. Being I've always been very active with horses and especially jumping I've had several fractures in the past so I know what it feels like and how long it takes for it to feel beter for me - at least when I was younger and BBC (Before Breast Cancer). The Drs in UC could not see anything on the films (I didn't either) but when the radiologist looked at them later that afternoon he/she did see a "very small fracture". So anywho my question is while the Femara is not 'attacking' my 'healthy' bones/joints while 'attacking' the injured site because there is definately a lot more pain and achiness than should be in the area by now based on past histories?

    ANy thoughts?

    Susan

    Susan in Response to your Question
    Hi Susan,

    Aromatase Inhibitors are notorious for bone fractures. If you have not been prescribe a bisphosphonate drug, please ask your oncologist for one. It will help strengthen your bones so you won't develop osteoporosis. When bones are deprived of estrogen for a long period of time that is what happens. It's not just for women on aromatase inhibitors but for those who had a hysterectomy. Everyone should have a bone density test to figure out where they are and how close they are to developing fractures.

    To be certain that Femara is not causing pain and achiness in specific areas, you could stop the drug for 3 weeks. It took me that long to discover what was Femara pain, what was pain from my other problems. It took 3 weeks after restarting Femara to have the pain back in the areas that I was questioning. I went off the drug twice before my present vacation from Femara at this time. I did have my oncologist approval for this experiment. I have an indolent kind of cancer, so the experiments are not for everyone.

    I would say that more than likely Femara is causing more pain in bone & joint areas that were injured at one time. The drug seems to like the most vulnerable bone & joint areas in one's body.

    Fractures takes time to heal especially if your walking on it.

    Best to you,

    Doris
  • Rague
    Rague Member Posts: 3,653 Member
    SIROD said:

    Susan in Response to your Question
    Hi Susan,

    Aromatase Inhibitors are notorious for bone fractures. If you have not been prescribe a bisphosphonate drug, please ask your oncologist for one. It will help strengthen your bones so you won't develop osteoporosis. When bones are deprived of estrogen for a long period of time that is what happens. It's not just for women on aromatase inhibitors but for those who had a hysterectomy. Everyone should have a bone density test to figure out where they are and how close they are to developing fractures.

    To be certain that Femara is not causing pain and achiness in specific areas, you could stop the drug for 3 weeks. It took me that long to discover what was Femara pain, what was pain from my other problems. It took 3 weeks after restarting Femara to have the pain back in the areas that I was questioning. I went off the drug twice before my present vacation from Femara at this time. I did have my oncologist approval for this experiment. I have an indolent kind of cancer, so the experiments are not for everyone.

    I would say that more than likely Femara is causing more pain in bone & joint areas that were injured at one time. The drug seems to like the most vulnerable bone & joint areas in one's body.

    Fractures takes time to heal especially if your walking on it.

    Best to you,

    Doris

    Thanks!
    In June my Density Test showed that I am now Oseoporosis (not surprising at all as even without the 'stuff' with IBC I have a huge family history of it and natural menopause at 44. Have been on Fosamax since then. Have been on Calcium for years as I tried HRT for a short time and it was not 'nice'.

    In my mind going off Femara even for a short time is not an option unless I HAVE to. I'm IBC so I'd much rather deal with a bit of pain (yeah I'm very "stoic" according to my Rad Dr) so I'll handle it.

    Oh Yeah I am on my feet but I have a CAM boot for it. I know it will take time - but having done "other good stuff" to my body over years - this is taking a lot more time and a lot more pain so far = but then I'm older.

    Susan