We've lost a friend

Not sure if everyone is aware but we've lost our friend Scambuster. Apparently he has been censored/banned from this board. I'm not sure exactly why but my guess is that he might have posted one too many times about alternatives to conventional cancer treatment and the conventional diet that is recommended by most oncologists. I've seen plenty of recommendations for chemo, radiation, ensure, boost, jevity, opiates, benzo's and even milkshakes and candy on this board since I first came here a year ago. Never once have I seen anybody respond in anger to those recommendations though I have seen plenty of angry responses to recommendations for a sugar free, dairy free, organic, plant-based diet and alternative cancer treatments that might compliment chemo, surgery and radiation. I even witnessed someone from another board chase Scam over here because he didn't agree with his findings. Why would someone with a cancer other than H&N even be on this board?
No wonder we're losing the war on cancer. We're not even willing to change the way we eat to save our lives. It seems impossible that we would change the way we think.

But that's not really what I wanted to talk about. I just wanted to acknowledge the absence of someone who encouraged me when I was fearful, gave me well researched information when I needed it and who has been a source of wisdom and hope on this board and has contributed to the health of countless brothers and sisters who have been impacted by H&N cancer. He will be missed.

With sadness and frustration,

AB
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Comments

  • luv2cut1
    luv2cut1 Member Posts: 288
    Well said
    Thanks AB. You express my feelings exactly. We miss you Scam. Thanks for the support you have given us.

    Myka
  • fisrpotpe
    fisrpotpe Member Posts: 1,349 Member
    I too agree
    Thanks for the post, I agree with you.... we have lost a friend, a supporter, a survivor, a caregiver, and his knowledge.

    This is not right


    opps double post or you can say I double agree
  • palmyrafan
    palmyrafan Member Posts: 396
    Missed
    I am sorry to hear that about Scambuster. I so enjoyed reading all his posts.

    The sad thing is I always try to accept everything everyone says as their own opinion, which I was raised to believe, we are all entitled to.

    I myself was chased off the Meningioma Mommas board because I dared to disagree with the Moderator and the "owner" of the website got upset about that and suggested I should find another board to go to.

    Not fair, but unfortunately, there is just no pleasing some people.

    Scambuster will be missed.
  • Greg53
    Greg53 Member Posts: 849

    Missed
    I am sorry to hear that about Scambuster. I so enjoyed reading all his posts.

    The sad thing is I always try to accept everything everyone says as their own opinion, which I was raised to believe, we are all entitled to.

    I myself was chased off the Meningioma Mommas board because I dared to disagree with the Moderator and the "owner" of the website got upset about that and suggested I should find another board to go to.

    Not fair, but unfortunately, there is just no pleasing some people.

    Scambuster will be missed.

    Scam
    Scam was indeed a charactor. I know he could push his agenda a little hard at times, but I always took it as him giving his opinion. And some of his posts may have been questionable but there was a lot of good info in there also (my opinion). I definitely thought he was only trying to help others and I would think that most people on sites like these can think for themselves and come to their own conclusions about other peoples' recommendations or opinions. But then again I haven't been on lately and haven't been keeping up on all the posts.

    No matter, he definitely was an intense guy but I considered him a friend. Hope he is doing well.

    Greg
  • rozaroo
    rozaroo Member Posts: 665
    Greg53 said:

    Scam
    Scam was indeed a charactor. I know he could push his agenda a little hard at times, but I always took it as him giving his opinion. And some of his posts may have been questionable but there was a lot of good info in there also (my opinion). I definitely thought he was only trying to help others and I would think that most people on sites like these can think for themselves and come to their own conclusions about other peoples' recommendations or opinions. But then again I haven't been on lately and haven't been keeping up on all the posts.

    No matter, he definitely was an intense guy but I considered him a friend. Hope he is doing well.

    Greg

    Dissapointed!
    I am sad to hear Scam will no longer be here as I enjoyed his post's. Like anything else you take the good with the bad & I myself valued his insight & opinion. No one is perfect & we all have a right to our opinion. I will miss his valuable input!
    Roz
  • Pam M
    Pam M Member Posts: 2,196
    You Said It, AdventureBob
    I count Scambuster as a definate asset. Sorry I won't be seeing posts from him here now. He's one of the people I considered a part of the foundation for the discussion board. I also agree that some folks seemed to take some of his posts as some sort of personal attack against established medical practices. Scambuster, in my opinion, took advantage of both conventional western medicine, and adjunctive/alternative therapies. I'll miss hearing from that very informative, supportive man.
  • connieprice1
    connieprice1 Member Posts: 300 Member
    Scambuster is a good guy!
    Yeah Bob, We will all miss Scam. I personally thouht he documented the black salve skin cancer treatment very well. He showed before and after pictures and they were amazing to me. How could cancer ever be cured if researchers cannot look in all directions. I never once heard him tell anyone to stop taking conventional medicine. Scam was and is a researcher and we were fortunate to read his discoveries whether we agreed or disagreed. To ban him from this website sends the wrong message, Homer & Connie
  • Kent Cass
    Kent Cass Member Posts: 1,898 Member

    Scambuster is a good guy!
    Yeah Bob, We will all miss Scam. I personally thouht he documented the black salve skin cancer treatment very well. He showed before and after pictures and they were amazing to me. How could cancer ever be cured if researchers cannot look in all directions. I never once heard him tell anyone to stop taking conventional medicine. Scam was and is a researcher and we were fortunate to read his discoveries whether we agreed or disagreed. To ban him from this website sends the wrong message, Homer & Connie

    Scam
    Very sad to hear of this. His area of the globe has a lot more experience with Nasopharyngeal, as it is "vastly" more common in SE Asia than anywhere else, and I always considered it good to hear what's what on that side of the Pacifac pond. Also, his open and honest testimony to the struggle he experienced, and help he got, certainly was good for all to know of. Very disappointing to think he was banned for the reason(s) mentioned. Scam, if you read this- you did help me, and I thank you.

    kcass
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    Scam
    He's doing fine and sends his well wishes to all on here...

    We've emailed a few times recently and he especially misses being able to retrieve some of the information he had on here (postings and expressions)...

    He also has expressed his sorrow and concerns for Mike (Chefdaddys) son.

    He was getting ready for a 30 mile bike ride last night and is doing well.

    I know Clearblue and several have also been emailing him and keeping up.

    Best,
    John
  • jim and i
    jim and i Member Posts: 1,788 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Scam
    He's doing fine and sends his well wishes to all on here...

    We've emailed a few times recently and he especially misses being able to retrieve some of the information he had on here (postings and expressions)...

    He also has expressed his sorrow and concerns for Mike (Chefdaddys) son.

    He was getting ready for a 30 mile bike ride last night and is doing well.

    I know Clearblue and several have also been emailing him and keeping up.

    Best,
    John

    Scam banned
    would think that with so many of us supporting Scam they would reconsider. If people do not like his opinion they should just not read his post and let the rest of us reap what knowledge we want from him. I will miss his posts.

    Blessings

    Debbie
  • staceya
    staceya Member Posts: 720
    jim and i said:

    Scam banned
    would think that with so many of us supporting Scam they would reconsider. If people do not like his opinion they should just not read his post and let the rest of us reap what knowledge we want from him. I will miss his posts.

    Blessings

    Debbie

    Let's unblock him.
    What can we do to unblock him? Anyone know who we could contact?
    His posts were always informative and helpful to me.
    Thanks
    Stacey
  • staceya
    staceya Member Posts: 720
    jim and i said:

    Scam banned
    would think that with so many of us supporting Scam they would reconsider. If people do not like his opinion they should just not read his post and let the rest of us reap what knowledge we want from him. I will miss his posts.

    Blessings

    Debbie

    Duplicate
    duplicate post..silly internet.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    staceya said:

    Let's unblock him.
    What can we do to unblock him? Anyone know who we could contact?
    His posts were always informative and helpful to me.
    Thanks
    Stacey

    Greta
    Greta would be the one to ask I presume. But I'm not sure of what entirely went on... It was more than what has been mentioned here and involved other forum members as well as CSN moderators.

    Moderators and the site itself has the right to ban whom they want without explanation to anyone. They have an overall responsibility to the majority of their members.

    JG
  • palmyrafan
    palmyrafan Member Posts: 396
    Skiffin16 said:

    Greta
    Greta would be the one to ask I presume. But I'm not sure of what entirely went on... It was more than what has been mentioned here and involved other forum members as well as CSN moderators.

    Moderators and the site itself has the right to ban whom they want without explanation to anyone. They have an overall responsibility to the majority of their members.

    JG

    Posts
    As previously stated, I would hope that the moderators and administrators would understand that the majority of us are adults and have the ability to think on our own about what is best for us and our individual medical history.

    I would hope that they reconsider and read beyond just his "questionable" posts to see all the good he really did and the great support, encouragement and friendship he also brought.

    Hope he is doing well.

    Teresa
  • soccerfreaks
    soccerfreaks Member Posts: 2,788 Member
    "There must be some way out of here"
    (Bob Dylan reference)

    Skiffin (John) is correct: make your pleas to the web administrator, whose link you can find on the home page of CSN (and elsewhere).

    John is also probably correct in that there is more to the story than appears to the eye. If I know Greta, she gave ScamBuster ample warning about whatever behavior she found beyond the bounds of tolerance on this site before dismissing him. That is just a supposition, but one strongly supported by her actions in the past.

    As far as I know, she is the ONLY administrator of this site and, except for the Chat Room, she is the ONLY moderator of what takes place on the site. (I am a moderator in the Chat Room, FYI). We all have the right to flag posts as offensive, of course, which is a form of self-moderation, and we have the right to send emails to the administrator protesting actions we find disagreeable (another form of self-moderation).

    It is fine to speak of tolerance and rights and free speech and adulthood and the like, but there has to be a limit to what is permitted, I think we would all agree. I am not saying, personally, that ScamBuster crossed the line, because I don't know, but I am fairly certain that we will agree there has to be a limit, there has to be line that cannot be crossed. Once we have agreed that this is so, then it is just a matter of what constitutes going over the line, and we should also agree that the owners of the site will determine where that line is.

    I am neither pro- nor anti-Scambuster, by the way, but pro-CSN.

    Take care,

    Joe
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Hi Bob
    Yes I too was very sorry when Scam told me he was kicked off of CSN, non of what I seen him post was anything more than just telling other what he was doing and found that worked for him. Then is seemed like a hold array of others that don’t normally post on H&N came over to argue about everything he said and I guess one of them call Greta and complained. I don’t know why she removed him and all his post nothing was ever said. I hope I am not next because I am doing some R&R and also taking some ACT, I guess it is OK as long as I don’t tell anyone.

    Take care
    Hondo
  • DJG1
    DJG1 Member Posts: 121
    Hondo said:

    Hi Bob
    Yes I too was very sorry when Scam told me he was kicked off of CSN, non of what I seen him post was anything more than just telling other what he was doing and found that worked for him. Then is seemed like a hold array of others that don’t normally post on H&N came over to argue about everything he said and I guess one of them call Greta and complained. I don’t know why she removed him and all his post nothing was ever said. I hope I am not next because I am doing some R&R and also taking some ACT, I guess it is OK as long as I don’t tell anyone.

    Take care
    Hondo

    It probally will not do any good, but I expressed my disappointment to CSN about the removal of Scambuster. Just incase you are not aware, the Big Pharms's are the largest doner to the Amerivan Cancer Society. What that means is that they control every thing that is posted on this discussion board. I hope others will let CSN know if they think Scam should not be removed.
  • Skiffin16
    Skiffin16 Member Posts: 8,305 Member
    DJG1 said:

    It probally will not do any good, but I expressed my disappointment to CSN about the removal of Scambuster. Just incase you are not aware, the Big Pharms's are the largest doner to the Amerivan Cancer Society. What that means is that they control every thing that is posted on this discussion board. I hope others will let CSN know if they think Scam should not be removed.

    Big Pharms's
    Just incase you are not aware, the Big Pharms's are the largest doner to the Amerivan Cancer Society. What that means is that they control every thing that is posted on this discussion board.

    Is that fact or your personal opinion.....

    They may or may not be a large contributor, but I don't believe they control comments on these boards.

    I personally don't buy it, just my opinion though.

    JG
  • Hondo
    Hondo Member Posts: 6,636 Member
    Skiffin16 said:

    Big Pharms's
    Just incase you are not aware, the Big Pharms's are the largest doner to the Amerivan Cancer Society. What that means is that they control every thing that is posted on this discussion board.

    Is that fact or your personal opinion.....

    They may or may not be a large contributor, but I don't believe they control comments on these boards.

    I personally don't buy it, just my opinion though.

    JG

    Hi Debbie
    How did you send a complaint to CSN, maybe if enough of us complain they will remove his block? I really kind of drought they will but it is worth a try.

    Hondo
  • DJG1
    DJG1 Member Posts: 121
    Hondo said:

    Hi Debbie
    How did you send a complaint to CSN, maybe if enough of us complain they will remove his block? I really kind of drought they will but it is worth a try.

    Hondo

    CONTACTING CSN
    Hello Hondo,
    I hope you are having a gerat trip and getting lots of R&R. I just clicked on the far right top "contact CSN". Not sure if anyone will get the message, but it is worth a try.

    John,
    Well for sure I cant type or spell, but I can tell you it is a fact. The statement was not made looking for buyers, just stating facts so that we are all a little smarter each day. I was not even looking for a debate.
    Debbie